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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
I heard that a gringo explorer named Willard picked up a Bar Girl in Mexicali and took her south, settling for a while in Gonzaga.
As a tribute to her talents on lonely nights, he named the area "Puta de Willard".
The name stuck, but was altered a bit.
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I heard it a bit different. The guy's name was Hanson, the girl actually turned out to be a Willard, and that's where the cannibalism comes in...
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according to Plant Life of a Desert Archipelago: Flora of the Sonoran Islands in the Gulf ... 2012... By Felger, Wilder, Romero-Morales (part iv
gazetteer)
punta willard is SW corner of isla tiburon
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David K
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Yes, that's another Punta Willard... I am interested in the one at Gonzaga Bay (Papa Fernandez').
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Yes, it's another Punta Willard but in the same general area. I believe you have to factor in all the information. It's Punta Willard, Bahia Willard
and Isla Willard in Baja California and Punta Willard in Sonora (Isla Tiburon) and there is also a Estacion de ferrocarril Willard (train station)
south of Hermosillo and there is also a Willard street.
Do all of these have something or someone in comon? Do they all refer to the US Consul Alexander Willard?
David is on the right track and has shown documentation but there is more to this consul Willard....
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Willard the missing duck ,could fly ,maybe all the Puta's and punts and bahia are all named after him?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jimgrms
Willard the missing duck ,could fly ,maybe all the Puta's and punts and bahia are all named after him? |
You may want to think about a re-write here. 
Allen R
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A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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willardguy
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san luis "willard" gonzaga?
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1747 Map
In 1746, Padre Fernando Consag (stationed at San Ignacio) sailed north by canoe along the east coast of Baja California to the Colorado River and was
the one who gave the name San Luis Gonzaga to the bay.
Here is Consag's map published the following year... and as it is today, the bay has an island in it.
The northern, smaller bay some call 'Willard' in more recent years was the one referred to as San Luis Gonzaga or just 'San Luis' by missionaries.
A warehouse was built on the Bay of San Luis (Gonzaga) to store supplies shipped up the gulf from Loreto and other ports for the expanding mission
chain, in 1769. The smaller bay offered much better protection from wind and waves. From the warehouse, Padre Serra had a cargo trail constructed to
support the mission of San Fernando and to a lesser degree, Santa María, which was bypassed by the new trail (much of which can be seen from space).
The foundation ruins of the warehouse can still be seen, just above the high tide line, midway around the bay between Papa Fernandez' and Alfonsina's.
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again, whatever pile of rocks you visited that you believed to be the ruins of a warehouse are long since gone. but keep telling folks its a must see
when visiting the area!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
again, whatever pile of rocks you visited that you believed to be the ruins of a warehouse are long since gone. but keep telling folks its a must see
when visiting the area! |
Sad they are gone... here it was in 2002:
However, the floor is still there...
They don't have to see it if they don't want to. In an exchange with Dr. Ritter, it is still there and he sent me photos.
" I did do a field documentation and limited test excavation at the Gonzaga ruins. There is a rock slab floor down about 40 cm. No artifacts per
se--a few Mission-era (presumably) potsherds outside (very difficult to find the little pieces) and a few basalt flakes and maybe one older piece of
green glass. Talked with Mike some about it--he thought it not Jesuit but perhaps Dominican or Colonial. I have other inquiries out. My guess is
some sort of mamposteria base wall construction with pole and thatch superstructure. They were probably using the caliche nearby at that quarry for
lime that has since melted away. Any thoughts, ideas, known collections, etc. would be welcome. I am writing all my work in Gonzaga up slowly--takes
me a few years with everything else. Would like to put more excavation units there in the future. Eric"
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keep the dream alive david 
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David K
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No intiendo, maybe send me a u2u so we can be on the same page?
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Mission era warehouse at Gonzaga Bay
http://www.xaguaro.com/MemoriasCD/page2/styled-10/styled-15/
Scroll down to Figure 3 to see the ruins as photographed in 2005 by Dr. Ritter.
That's Papa Fernandez' and Punta Willard in the background.
Supplies for the Franciscan and later Dominican missions to the north were shipped to here from Loreto (and the mainland perhaps) for the mission
project 1769+
Here is from Dr. Ritter:
At Bahía San Luis Gonzaga larger shell and artifact scatters and midden buildup is most prevalent along the main bay’s estuary. Further away loci are
small and less complex with scattered surface or near-surface shellfish remains, infrequent basalt or rare cryptocrystalline flakes, volcanic cores,
an occasional metate, beach cobbles with no visible wear or facially pitted like an anvil stone, very little bone and no projectile points or bifaces
noted. (A few of the cryptocrystalline flakes are biface-thinning flakes). A few very small near-shore rock shelters with similar cultural remains
were observed. There are a variety of shellfish remains at sites and it would appear as in the historical record that marine resource procurement was
the unsurprising major focus of coastal users. The tool kit appears simple and expedient. One place has a rectangular building with low wall
remnants composed of cobbles (Figure 3). This may be the location of the Spanish embarcadero for the mission. Nearby are two boat slips or
cleared pathway in the tidal shore for landing as found at Bahía de los Ángeles.Text
[Edited on 10-14-2014 by David K]
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willardguy
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Imagine that, scattered shellfish remains on a beach thats been a fish camp for fifty years! dr. ritter didn't find anything!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
I understand that a group of Mexicans that joined the Mormon Church went to Utah as missionarys and stole the name there. www.utah.com/stateparks/Willard_bay |
You talikhg about Willard "Mitt" Romney?
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He's looking down below the surface of today to where the surface was 250+ years ago. In the 2011 dig he found the floor stones of the warehouse (see
above, post 3/26/14).
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