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Maderita
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Dennis,
I'm not comparing one loss or incident to another. A tragedy is a tragedy. My point is that the families deserve our respect.
With regard to forum members having experience about posting manners and cilivility, I'm just suggesting that there might be some variation. For
example, when a climber decks (ground fall), there are likley 25, 50, 100, or 1000 other climbers who know him/her intimately. There are family and
friends on the forum wanting support. I have yet to read where a family member or friend either requested or desired to hear about how much blood was
on the rock.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Maderita
With regard to forum members having experience about posting manners and cilivility, I'm just suggesting that there might be some variation. For
example, when a climber decks (ground fall), there are likley 25, 50, 100, or 1000 other climbers who know him/her intimately. There are family and
friends on the forum wanting support. I have yet to read where a family member or friend either requested or desired to hear about how much blood was
on the rock. |
Sounds like you enjoy a tight-nit, closed environment with emphasis on friendship, technique and perfection.
After being on this board for a while, you'll be able to see that tragedy in Mexican society, of which there is far too much, hardens an observers
ability to show quiet compassion. It becomes a subject for open discussion and speculation probably because we have seen too often that's all there
will be. We won't see the blood on the rock wall or the floor. We won't see or hear anything. We're only left to guess.........so that's what we do.
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bajajazz
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I have owned property in La Paz and lived much of my life here since 1987 and I am sick and tired of the mad rush by the power structure in this town
to change it from a place that is safe for kids and retirees into something resembling Cabo San Lucas or some other hoarhouse resort, all in the name
of "providing employment" for the messy masses from the mainland.
The kidnapping and brutalization of this little girl is a direct product of these policies pushing hyper-development.
I am sorry, I am deeply sorry, and sickened by the whole damn thing. As I said, I desperately hope I'm wrong about Lissette's fate. But the facts
are that any kind of "happy" outcome of this situation is nil. And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development here in La
Paz is degrading the quality of life here in a way that affects everyone. We are losing something precious which, once lost, cannot be retrieved.
My apologies, my sympathies, and a big piece of my heart go out to that little girl's parents. But it's time to wake up and get real.
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wilderone
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"And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development here in La Paz is degrading the quality of life here in a way that affects
everyone. We are losing something precious which, once lost, cannot be retrieved."
Amen.
Lisette - my prayers go out to you and your family.
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tripledigitken
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The underbelly of Baja is getting bigger.
Most of us take our “rose colored” glasses with us to Baja, some just never take them off. Leaving them on risks becoming delusional, I’m sorry to
say.
I hope this has a happy ending.
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bajafam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajazz
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafam
praying for her safe return  |
Praying . . . and hustling for donations . . . yeah, right . . . |
I am in no way "hustling" for donations. I merely changed my signature to reflect the growth of my CD mission, which has increased from helping just
Miss Sirena to helping the entire community. No one is making you donate or even gve it a second thought.
Not to hijack, and I'm sorry, but this insinuation insulted me. My family and I are praying for Lizeth's safe return. We can pray and help others at
the same time.
With peace,
bajafam
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KAT54
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Your website says you have a store in mexico.
"Cloth Diaper Mission ~ help me cloth diaper Bahia Asuncion, Baja California Sur. Bahia Bebe ~ my storefront for the Bahia (and beyond!), with cloth
diaper service, RENTALS, and SALES!"
Looks like you are hustling donations too.
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bajafam
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Again, I don't want to hijack this thread. I will be posting a thread explaining what I am doing very soon. It is still in the works.
The donations are for the fees to become a non-profit (The Cloth Diaper Mission)...to get this status costs money. The donations are also for the
diapers, etc. to GIVE to families, such as what I did for Sirena, Adrian, and Izaak.
The other part (Bahia Bebe - the store, not yet built) is the for-profit side, which will provide the diapering service, and new items bought
wholesale for this purpose. NONE of the donations will be going into this portion.
Sorry if the links are confusing, and if you feel I am hustling. Again, no one is asking you to donate. Just ignore the signature if that is the way
you feel.
With peace,
Michelle
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafam
Michelle |
Don't allow the Kat animal to influence your thoughts. He/She is problematic..................and meaningless.
Hey there, bajafam, don't let anyone here cause you to react as you did.
Do your stuff and be proud and happy for your efforts.
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norte
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hey pretty good. get the diaperswith donations and then charge to clean them.
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafam
Again, I don't want to hijack this thread. I will be posting a thread explaining what I am doing very soon. It is still in the works.
The donations are for the fees to become a non-profit (The Cloth Diaper Mission)...to get this status costs money. The donations are also for the
diapers, etc. to GIVE to families, such as what I did for Sirena, Adrian, and Izaak.
The other part (Bahia Bebe - the store, not yet built) is the for-profit side, which will provide the diapering service, and new items bought
wholesale for this purpose. NONE of the donations will be going into this portion.
Sorry if the links are confusing, and if you feel I am hustling. Again, no one is asking you to donate. Just ignore the signature if that is the way
you feel.
With peace,
Michelle |
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bajafam
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I no longer wish to take away from the seriousness of this thread. Please refer to:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=48650
for any further information, discussion, bashing....whatever floats your boat!
Michelle
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mcfez
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I just got hold of this. Any word of the child? Geeze.....some humans are so primate.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development ....... |
development results in the kinapping of children tell that
to the Japenese 
Bob Durrell
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BajaBlanca
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Jesse, no encontraron la nina ???? No girl found yet ????
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BAJACAT
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This morning they show her picture in CANAL 12 TIJUANA, they are still looking for her...
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BajaBlanca
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muy triste. very very very sad that she is not home in her bed with mom and dad.
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lizard lips
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Is there any word yet?
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