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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Tug boats are pushing that ship to San Diego. |
bob dude:
the tug boats are "tugging" and not "pushing" |
I had a different vision, but you are correct - I saw photos.
But, sometimes they do 'push'...
http://www.solarnavigator.net/tugs.htm
[Edited on 11-11-2010 by Bob H]
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DENNIS
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I love Spam. We've had some kickass Spam threads here in the past and they always inspire me to go to the store for a can or two.
Spamchiladas....one of my favorites. YUMMY
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Spam - ahhhh, the memories of my youth...
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Cut spam into cubes, put it on skewers with chunks of pineapple and red onion, brush with teriyaki and grill. Fun party food.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BillP
Cut spam into cubes, put it on skewers with chunks of pineapple and red onion, brush with teriyaki and grill. Fun party food.
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That really sounds good. I'll write that one down for later.
Unknown to some, Spam has excellent rujuvination qualities:
http://nozama.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/09/sp...
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the "ham" of our family when growing up.. I can remember my mom putting "Cloves" into the uncut block and serving like a real ham... along with "fresh
baked rolls"
what more can a growing family of five want for.... in the late 1940's after the war....
has made me hungry... know what I'm having for lunch today... thanks.. still like it too.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The unfortunate lesson to be learned here is that while Carnival was ready and willing to give these folks a free vacation in Ensenada, and I might
say at some very fine hotels, they apparently received so much flak about subjecting their passengers to the dangers of near border Mexico, that they
made the decision to tug the ship all the way to San Diego. Such a shame. And, just think about the fact that due to the ship's limited capacity,
these passengers are having to eat cold food, and shower without hot water. I'd much rather spend two nights at the San Nicolas. I just hope that when
Carnival made the decision to tug on up to SD, they also made some sort of payment to the hotels where they originally booked their passengers. Only
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On the radio, we heard them state that they decided to not subject the passengers to a trip through the dangerous war torn area between Ensenada and
the border. War torn---could not believe they actually used that expression----quite a visual expression. 
Spam---loved it as a kid----but now to be eating that instead of a fresh roasted chicken with hand made tortillas and fries dripping with grease, or a
very fresh fish taco, well I think I would have started a mutiny and headed for Encenada.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
On the radio, we heard them state that they decided to not subject the passengers to a trip through the dangerous war torn area between Ensenada and
the border. War torn---could not believe they actually used that expression----quite a visual expression.
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I'll bet there are a lot of passengers on the voyage who had that in mind when they booked it. Can't blame them. They just don't want to deal with
any of it so they paid to go around it. It was a time for fun....not making statements or, in their minds, taking chances.
Give them all Spamargaritas. All will be well.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
they decided to not subject the passengers to a trip through the dangerous war torn area between Ensenada and the border. War torn---could not
believe they actually used that expression----quite a visual expression.
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well, how many people died in past year in TJ-Ensenada area due to drug war? and how many federal troops are in TJ-ensenada area to keep peace and
root out bad guys?
all things considered, sounds like a WAR is going on in border region. this year most battles are a bit to the east, but the same war is going on in
baja and mainland. it's a war zone, you juts have not seen large local battles recently.
as to ensenada having good places to stay -- there are maybe 200 "good" hotel rooms in Ensenada, and the rest are probably not the type that
passengers would care to stay in. Ensenada does not have sufficient "good" hotel rooms to absorb a cruise ship load of people.
and based on this thread it seems like local expats think spam is good cusisine, so maybe that speaks to the local restaurants faire?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
and based on this thread it seems like local expats think spam is good cusisine, so maybe that speaks to the local restaurants faire? |
Hey, Goat.....You've posted 2297 times and every one of them has been Spam.
Jes kiddin'.
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"spam is good cusisine" .... yeah, sure... and all Denny's server terrible food too...
please do a public service and make of a list of GARR's (Goat Approved Food and Restaurants)
So we will not make the same mistake in selecting our food groups and eating locations
Don't think anyone said it was the set down meal they ordered at a restaurant, not sure one can order a "spam" sandwich, never seen it on a menu ....
rather many have had it and associated it with different eating experiences... in their lives...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
not sure one can order a "spam" sandwich, never seen it on a menu .... |
Never been to Hawaii, Wiley? Spam is the Filet Mignon of the Islands.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/hawaii...
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they apparently could not secure enough buses either to transport the pax from the cruise ship-must be a slow news day-why is this such a big
story?Spam is the #1 food on Guam-Hormel even made a hot and spicy version, which is terrific cut up and put in fried rice-
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Spam and huevos rocks!! My favorite is Hawaiian style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL5YTsEJno
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Never been to Hawaii, Wiley? Spam is the Filet Mignon of the Islands.
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just because they eat it does not make it local equivalent of "filet mignon." if a person ate Hawaiian food from Zippys everyday, could they survive
past age 40 without having a coronary or developing diabetes?
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sure, or instead of Zippys they could do Mc Donald's ... for a month... ever see
"Super Size it"...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
they decided to not subject the passengers to a trip through the dangerous war torn area between Ensenada and the border. War torn---could not
believe they actually used that expression----quite a visual expression.
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as to ensenada having good places to stay -- there are maybe 200 "good" hotel rooms in Ensenada, and the rest are probably not the type that
passengers would care to stay in. Ensenada does not have sufficient "good" hotel rooms to absorb a cruise ship load of people.
and based on this thread it seems like local expats think spam is good cusisine, so maybe that speaks to the local restaurants faire? |
As for "good" hotel rooms- Before the drug crime spree, several cruise ship operators used Ensenada as the point of embarkation for the cruises they
ran to and from Hawaii. This was because due to us shipping laws, foreign flagged vessels had to make a foreign port call, lest they are not allowed
to transport passengers directly between US ports. Cruise lines used to offer pre-cruise hotel packages in Ensenada. San Nicolas was one place. I
believe Corona was also involved.
Since the "war" became a public relations nightmare, these same cruise lines now embark from LA/ Long Beach ansd make a day call at Ensenada.
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Better that the cruise lines be cautious on overnighting thousands in Ensenada on short notice. One more bad incident for these passengers trip and
it would make things worse for Mexico tourism than it is now. Given the current "c-ckroach effect" impact on Ensenada crime, they were better off
going direct to San Diego. Ensenada never made much sense as a destination for this disabled ship with San Diego being so close by. Nice happy ending
though. I'll bet the ship stabilizers were out and one rogue wave could have been the next Poseidon Adventure.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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I look at pictures of that ship and wonder if it would have fit in the harbor? I'm guessing NO.
The QE2 pays a visit occasionally and they have to shuttle the passengers to shore.
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Good Point
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I look at pictures of that ship and wonder if it would have fit in the harbor? I'm guessing NO.
The QE2 pays a visit occasionally and they have to shuttle the passengers to shore. |
The ships just keep getting bigger. Royal Caribbean has a new class of ship that carries 6,000 passengers. The size of the ships limit the ports to
which they can call. Interesting that the intended itinerary of the Carnival ship was Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta and Cabo. Cabo does not have docking
facilities. So, imagine having to tender-in over 3,000 people. Think about doing that for 6,000!
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