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gallesram
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Thanks for the welcome Baja Blanca. This is such a great site; very helpful to stay on top of what's going on down in Baja which always makes a trip
go more smoothly. By the way, I got nailed in Mexico City, too, and mistakenly paid a mordida. Never again (within reason)!
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BajaBlanca
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sorry you got nailed too, I very much regret paying but at the time, it just seemed like the best thing to do .....
this really is an amazing site - the two trips we have taken around Mexico - one to copper canyon and this last to the mainland for 6 weeks were
infinitely enhanced by all the advice everyone shared.
now if I can just find the rock art in Catavina HAHAHA
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Bajatripper
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We drove through CC twice last weekend with no problems, either. On the return trip, we were in the center lane and had a police truck paralleling us
on the right. At no time did he show any interest in us or the US-plated SUV we were in.
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BajaBlanca
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things may be a-changin' after all ....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
things may be a-changin' after all .... |
Probably are. That means they'll be back to normal soon enough. Keep your wallet handy.
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Bajahowodd
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Or not. Just seems to me that this forum, alonf with others, really produced a change there. Perhaps I'm just dreaming, but...
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Lee
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Anybody driving through CC with anything to report?
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Jim/Liisa
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| Quote: | Originally posted by byaneyelash
It's still happening. We were stopped on the morning of Jan. 6, only 2 blocks from south end of town.
We spent the night in Constitucion in a nice hotel, roughly US$45, ate about $15 worth of tacos, then $10 breakfast and gas for $20.
I made the mistake of getting in the outside lane. A cop who stopped someone else got in his truck and followed our rental car for a short distance
then turned on the lights. I got out and he says I was not wearing a seatbelt. I DON'T Drive WITHOUT A SEATBELT!!! I apologized, but he wanted to
write a ticket and requested my driver's license and I held it up so he could see it. He tried to take it but I didn't release my grip, so he insists
we go to the station. Fine, we go to a substation on the northeast end of town.
I tried to explain to his superior, and added that I write for newspapers and the internet and will tell others what happened. They didn't care.
After 20 minutes and 315 pesos, we were on our way. At least I didn't hand over my money to the cop.
My girlfriend kept my camera around her neck and let the video function run while we're at the station. I'll post a few snippets after I figure out
how to do that.
Leaving town, we laughed at how many other drivers we spotted who weren't wearing seatbelts and ran stop signs.
On the other hand, walking one night with friends in Santa Rosalia, a young fellow taps me on the shoulder and hands me a 20-peso bill I had dropped
on the sidewalk.
And the day after the stop in Constitucion, a motorcycle cop in La Paz slowed down beside us and pointed at the rear passenger tire to let me know it
was low.
Considering the stop in Constitucion was the worst thing that happened, aside from the wind that kept us from fishing and snorkeling 2 days, it was
not enough to keep me from returning to the Baja. But I doubt I'll stay in Constitucion again. |
You should have stayed in the car with your seat belt on, ya think?
He got you there..
[Edited on 02-05-2011 by Jim/Liisa]
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BajaBlanca
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CC cops at it again - that's the pits.
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Roberto
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(stating the obvious) Folks - that's the system. Figure out how to deal with it. You are NOT gonna change it. Whatcha think, Dennis?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
(stating the obvious) Folks - that's the system. Figure out how to deal with it. You are NOT gonna change it. Whatcha think, Dennis?
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I think efforts would be better spent in trying to get Mexicans to be on time and quit having so many babies.
Lemme know how those efforts turn out. 
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The past few times I traveled through Cd. C, I took the center lane, drove VERY slow, and on those intersections lacking an operating traffic light,
stopped completely, and scanned for any pedestrians. Maybe I was overdoing it, but if I saw a pedestrian in the street, even far across from where I
was, I waited for them to complete crossing. Slow going, of course. But no one molested me. |
You did
everything correctly-- culturally and legally.
Since Hurricane Jimena, or another tormenta before, the lights haven't been working in Constitution, but ya' can't blow by the intersections. Ya'
gotta come to a full and complete stop at each and every intersection whether there's a functioning stop light, stop sign, pedestrian or billy goat OR
NOT, you still have to stop.
And don't forget, everybody wears a seatbelt.
And you NEVER get out of your car if you're stopped by a cop.
And NEVER, EVER pay a mordida to a cop, ever.
This protocol was explained to me by a local Mexican citizen. Its how they handle things.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
And you NEVER get out of your car if you're stopped by a cop.
And NEVER, EVER pay a mordida to a cop, ever.
This protocol was explained to me by a local Mexican citizen. Its how they handle things. |
Too many absolutes here.
The Mexican citizens know the protocol for scams? For gringoes? Right.
Better to call Dennis and get real time protocol.
For those of you who think there's logic in this demonstrating your seatbelt is fastened, be prepared to justifiy your innocence for the charges of
speeding, running stop signs, or traffic lights -- while pointing out that your seatbelt is fastened.
It's a scam folks. I'll take my chances arguing the scam face to face than sitting in my car passively.
Pretzel logic.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
For those of you who think there's logic in this demonstrating your seatbelt is fastened, be prepared to justifiy your innocence for the charges of
speeding, running stop signs, or traffic lights -- while pointing out that your seatbelt is fastened.
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Yeah.....I don't get the US mindset. We, some anyway, cling to the belief that reality will rule in these cases. That right and wrong will find their
proper level and that the police need a real reason to pull them over.
Will you ever get it, folks? The "real" reason is in your wallet. The procedure is highway robbery, pure and simple. The police officer isn't wrong
or confused about your infraction. There was no infraction. You know that, and he knows that. You have to start dealing with reality from that point
on.
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wessongroup
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property taxes ?
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mtgoat666
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It sounds like the police in Cd C are being vigilant about policing the streets. I bet they have safe streets, with low or zero pedestrian fatality
rate. More power to them! Over zealous policing of traffic infractions is a small price to pay for the lives saved!
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1bobo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
It sounds like the police in Cd C are being vigilant about policing the streets. I bet they have safe streets, with low or zero pedestrian fatality
rate. More power to them! Over zealous policing of traffic infractions is a small price to pay for the lives saved! |
Oh yes. Safety above all else!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 1bobo
Oh yes. Safety above all else!
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Yeah......these guys are really just a bunch of Boy Scouts working on their Business Merit Badge.
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Frank
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That right and wrong will find their proper level and that the police need a real reason to pull them over.
Will you ever get it, folks? The "real" reason is in your wallet. The procedure is highway robbery, pure and simple. The police officer isn't wrong or
confused about your infraction. There was no infraction. You know that, and he knows that. You have to start dealing with reality from that point on.
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Ah thats the game isnt it? You just summed up the whole experience Dennis 
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BajaBlanca
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well .... I think you can't just throw in the towel and give up....we must try to fix the problem (and I am soooo guilty of getting absurdly nervous
and paying up when we were on the mainland ...)
I think it was great that byanbeyelash tried to do the right thing by going to the station.
and is this close enough to la paz for the new mayor to be informed and perhaps do s/thing about it ?????
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