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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
My post to you had to do with lies, you stating that truth is the Liberal nightmare. |
Thanks Mr. Fish, but...
I said "facts" , and that's the truth!
Have a nice day!
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Bajatripper
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Here's an article that may be of some interest at the moment. It concerns the Diablo Canyon Power Plant, built about a mile from a fault line on the
coast in central California.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/california-nuclear-...
Few things have been lied about as much as the issues concerning the safety of nuclear energy. On the most basic level, spent nuclear fuel remains
dangerously radioactive for thousands of years, yet we have no clue how to dispose of the stuff safely (remember the fiasco that is the nuclear waste
repository at Yucca Mountain in Nevada?).
The fact is that ALL of the waste from nuclear power plants that has been generated during the life of the nuclear energy age is still being
maintained in TEMPORARY storage ponds while we wait for science to discover a way to dispose of the it in a safe, responsible manner. Yet, to date,
nobody has come up with a solution, over fifty years into the "program."
If that doesn't give one reason to pause before supporting such an industry, then I guess some people must like to live with their heads burried
really, really deep in the sand.
I'm sure there are those who would argue that "our" nuclear power plants are operated in a safe, efficient manner and what we are seeing now in that
third world, underdeveloped nation that is Japan could never, ever happen in the good old USA. Dream on and just hope it doesn't happen at home during
your lifetime, because happen, it will, the only question is when.
[Edited on 3-17-2011 by Bajatripper]
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Iflyfish
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DK
You stated “Facts are the liberals worst nightmare.”
You cannot know facts if the source of your information are lies. There is a saying in the Computer World and it goes “Garbage in and Garbage out”.
FOX daily distorts its observations, data and viewpoint. FOX has an agenda that is to distort the days “news” with its political agenda. If you watch
the linked video you will hear FOX employees describe how they were told to report “news” based upon the daily “talking points”.
http://tinyurl.com/6rrny6
People who get their “news” from FOX are the least informed people in the country.
http://tinyurl.com/29dd8pl
Lies are not the basis of facts they are the basis of the Liberals worst nightmare. The American public is being lied to on a daily basis by FOX
“news”. The fact that FOX is the major source of “news” for most Americas accounts for much of the ignorance that one finds when talking with
Americans.
http://tinyurl.com/2vmhxq6
I have converted the links into tiny links so you can easily find the facts.
Iflyfishinaseaorignorance
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Pompano
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Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual. 
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads? 
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual.
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads? |
Why waste the energy on that, just watch CNN, & MSNBC as they have no talking points.
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What...dont any one here listen to NPR?
No radio? Try this www.npr.org/
You just may like em.
The rest of these newscasters are no comparison to ol Walter Cronkite.
"And that's the way it is".
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual.
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads?
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Why waste the energy on that, just watch CNN, & MSNBC as they have no talking points.
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Thanks, Ken..for proving my point.
But I think you may have missed..or ignored.... the idea of being purely 'factual' and unbiased. Right? 
Is this test truly impossible to do on Nomads? If so, it speaks volumes about the forum. 
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual.
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads?
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Why waste the energy on that, just watch CNN, & MSNBC as they have no talking points.
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Thanks, Ken..for proving my point.
But I think you may have missed..or ignored.... the idea of being purely 'factual' and unbiased. Right?
Is this test truly impossible to do on Nomads? If so, it speaks volumes about the forum. |
Didn't miss or ignore Roger. Unbiased, purely unbiased doesn't exist in news or history books. The forum isn't any different than anywhere else,
IMO.
Ken
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Pompano
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Too bad, Ken...I had hoped we could have a good debate. We all lose something in that case.
Ah well, I went fishing...and caught nothing.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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tripledigitken
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Have the debate, but I'd rather go fishing.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual.
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads? |
In many cases it's not "how" the various networks report a story, but "if" they report the story at all. If a news story supports their agenda, and
they do have agendas, they'll report it, if not they won't report it or barely touch on it.
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Pompano
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Indeed, Cyprus..we have all noticed the lack of reporting on certain events that do not follow a network's 'agenda'...and that's part of what I mean
about stating one's factual observations on this topic.
Strict rules of debate: schoolchildren can do it...cavemen probably did it...Nomads should be able to do it, but I fear we'll need a moderator with a
stiff ruler to smack some noggins.
Anyhoo..you guys kick this can around the block.
Gotta run...We're burning daylight here... time to head out to sea.
Tally ho, Watson..the games afoot!
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
DK
You stated “Facts are the liberals worst nightmare.”
You cannot know facts if the source of your information are lies. There is a saying in the Computer World and it goes “Garbage in and Garbage out”.
FOX daily distorts its observations, data and viewpoint. FOX has an agenda that is to distort the days “news” with its political agenda. If you watch
the linked video you will hear FOX employees describe how they were told to report “news” based upon the daily “talking points”.
http://tinyurl.com/6rrny6
People who get their “news” from FOX are the least informed people in the country.
http://tinyurl.com/29dd8pl
Lies are not the basis of facts they are the basis of the Liberals worst nightmare. The American public is being lied to on a daily basis by FOX
“news”. The fact that FOX is the major source of “news” for most Americas accounts for much of the ignorance that one finds when talking with
Americans.
http://tinyurl.com/2vmhxq6
I have converted the links into tiny links so you can easily find the facts.
Iflyfishinaseaorignorance |
Mr. Fish, why are you using this to bring up your hate of Fox News? Did I ever bring up Fox News? Seems the left is really scared that the most
watched TV News is no longer their puppet networks... all of them repeat the same lines handed to them from the DNC.
You guys had it all, the House, the Senate and the Presidency... why complain...? The smokescreen has cleared, the people got a taste of socialism and
they spit it out.
Now, back to the topic...
Anyone else hear that the radiation leaks are not coming from the nuclear reactors at all, but instead from the storage facilities for the spent fuel
rods, that were still being stored on-site...? Seems the water covering them is what dropped. This was brodcast a couple days ago...? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
DK
You stated “Facts are the liberals worst nightmare.”
You cannot know facts if the source of your information are lies. There is a saying in the Computer World and it goes “Garbage in and Garbage out”.
FOX daily distorts its observations, data and viewpoint. FOX has an agenda that is to distort the days “news” with its political agenda. If you watch
the linked video you will hear FOX employees describe how they were told to report “news” based upon the daily “talking points”.
http://tinyurl.com/6rrny6
People who get their “news” from FOX are the least informed people in the country.
http://tinyurl.com/29dd8pl
Lies are not the basis of facts they are the basis of the Liberals worst nightmare. The American public is being lied to on a daily basis by FOX
“news”. The fact that FOX is the major source of “news” for most Americas accounts for much of the ignorance that one finds when talking with
Americans.
http://tinyurl.com/2vmhxq6
I have converted the links into tiny links so you can easily find the facts.
Iflyfishinaseaorignorance |
Mr. Fish, why are you using this to bring up your hate of Fox News? Did I ever bring up Fox News? Seems the left is really scared that the most
watched TV News is no longer their puppet networks... all of them repeat the same lines handed to them from the DNC.
You guys had it all, the House, the Senate and the Presidency... why complain...? The smokescreen has cleared, the people got a taste of socialism and
they spit it out.
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dk:
crikey! you are so biased you have lost any sense of reason (if you ever had it).
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Iflyfish
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Pomp:
These guys do a pretty good job of fact checking.
http://www.politifact.com/
Iflyfishinaseaofdistortionandhype
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Iflyfish
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I brought up FOX "news" because it is the primary source of "information" for most Americans and they lie, do not tell the truth, promote a political
agenda and that my friend is propaganda. An informed populace is neccessary for the success of a democracy.
When the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in the media this circus began. Remember Walter Cronkite? Remember who news used to be presented with
all sides represented?
The Free Press is one of the balancing mechanisms of our society, its corruption and use as propaganda has dummied down and polarized America and it's
political dialogue, reduced it to platitudes and name calling.
Do we get a clear picture of Mexico in the American Press. No, if one were to accept the image of Mexico now seen in American Media then none of us
would ever venture south.
http://tinyurl.com/6rrny6
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Surely someone can devise a little 'test' on how the various news networks report the same story? We could start it as of Now...
It should be relatively simple..if one keeps it factual.
Why does that seem impossible on Nomads?
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Why waste the energy on that, just watch CNN, & MSNBC as they have no talking points.
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Thanks, Ken..for proving my point.
But I think you may have missed..or ignored.... the idea of being purely 'factual' and unbiased. Right?
Is this test truly impossible to do on Nomads? If so, it speaks volumes about the forum. |
Didn't miss or ignore Roger. Unbiased, purely unbiased doesn't exist in news or history books. The forum isn't any different than anywhere else,
IMO.
Ken |
I totally agree Ken.
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Purely unbiased news and history may not exist but truth does exist. This statement seems to me to be a license to accept falsehood as a norm. And we
shouldn't let ourselves get off the hook like that.
Regarding history - it takes time. Sometimes hundreds of years and sometimes even more. Time allows a detachment of vested interest that allows the
truth to be accepted. That's why no president is correctly rated for several decades after his presidency ends. Our view of the Roman Empire now is
probably as close we're going to get to it's merits and vices. Our view of the Third Reich, however, is still too recent and will change with time.
I'm pretty much in agreement with everything flyfish has said as it's well thought out. David is, as usual, out in left field somewhere (or is it
right field).
I had a funny thought about FOX news. Now that we are dealing with Japan again I'm hoping that Obama, this time, doesn't bow too deeply during his
visit. Or another 2 weeks of FOX news will be devoted to it and it's significance.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Is this test truly impossible to do on Nomads? If so, it speaks volumes about the forum. |
I think "speaks volumes about human nature" would be more appropriate. While I know we're all special around here, we're not all that different.
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Speaking of Nuclear Fallout, saw it has been detected in Sacramento or at least it was reported as being detected .... 
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