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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The explaination being offered is that this is the result of a love triangle. |
denny,
you should have written "one explanation being offered..."
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The explaination being offered is that this is the result of a love triangle. |
denny,
you should have written "one explanation being offered..." |
The romantic in me says to listen the explaination with the background strumming of Spanish guitars........not AK 47s.
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One or both of these guys peeed off the wrong person. It's obvious. Love triangle? A good excuse but we will never know the truth. Both men apparently
had good steady jobs. I assume they were not making a lot of money but if they woke up that early to cross the shooter knew about it and they were
easy targets. The shooter would not take a cab back to their house as Phil said. As everyone knows around the border area you can park close by and
walk up to the cars in line and get back easy enough after you do the deed, especially at that hour. I really enjoy all the thoughts about the "who
did it and why" especially about the guy in Bay of LA recently. Everyone has their own ideas and you just never know who is right but you have to
think logically and look at the facts. When I investigate a murder or actually anything I look at it like having all these clues and checking them all
out for their own merit and close the door. When all the doors are closed you have to come to some kind of conclusion.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Melondeverdad
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
When guns are outlawed... only outlaws will have guns... 
Places with the strongest gun control laws have the highest crime levels. 
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Your first statement is correct, but your second is pure NRA BS. Canada has strict gun control, but lower crime than the US .... Same with most
European nations. |
Thanks for correcting any wrong information!
I was only thinking of Mexico (the subject) and the U.S. (where I am from). I just remember that places in the U.S. like Washington D.C. and New York
City have the highest crime as well as the most restrictive gun ownership laws.
Places where citizens have the freedom to protect themselves are rarely victimized, don't you think?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Melondeverdad
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
When guns are outlawed... only outlaws will have guns...
Places with the strongest gun control laws have the highest crime levels.
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Your first statement is correct, but your second is pure NRA BS. Canada has strict gun control, but lower crime than the US .... Same with most
European nations. |
Thanks for correcting any wrong information!
I was only thinking of Mexico (the subject) and the U.S. (where I am from). I just remember that places in the U.S. like Washington D.C. and New York
City have the highest crime as well as the most restrictive gun ownership laws.
Places where citizens have the freedom to protect themselves are rarely victimized, don't you think? |
I guess you would have to ask someone in the middle east. Don't you think?
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Perfect spot to do this, because no one will fess up not even the street vendors.
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Guns are nice to have around the house, come in handy every now and then. In some areas it's smart to keep one in your vehicle or on your person. Sort
of like insurance.
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don't think having a gun for protection would have made any difference in this case.
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The Frontera.info says that it was indeed a love triangle, it was a known person to the victims...the perp knew when and where to take his
revenge....sad.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Places where citizens have the freedom to protect themselves are rarely victimized, don't you think? |
dk:
statistics and examples, please!
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marooon-Media Dogs Gnawing on a 9mm Bone
Anyone who hasn't seen this story in their newspaper is reading the wrong paper. It's been in every paper I've seen, including the locals. And, it's
being gnawed on constantly by the video media.
The MOST ludicrous angle is the "Presumption" that it's a result of a Drug Cartel hit BECAUSE 9mm rounds were involved.
"The CHOICE favored by Drug Cartels".
And, the majority of everybody else in the world with the possible exception of the Soviet-Bloc and Chicoms, of course.
Come to think of it, the 9mm is the CHOICE of the U.S. Military AND the ICE forces. MAYBE it was really part of some
Government Conspiracy. Check with Gnu. He'll know.
The latest analysis of the "Love Triangle" (a few minutes ago) is viewed with doubt by the TV flacks BECAUSE "We know that they used 9mms and
that's what the Cartels use".
Those of us who are sitting on stockpiles of 9mm x 19 weapons and ammo can take comfort in knowing that, should we need to whack someone, the cartels
will get the blame.
I had set aside an old untraceable .22 for that purpose, but I do have one 9mm that also has no paper trail.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
I had set aside an old untraceable .22 for that purpose, but I do have one 9mm that also has no paper trail. |
Only one???
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Monday Border X-ing
I transited the Border around 10 A.M. Monday morning -- San Ysidro heading North. What a clusterf#@k that was. The line from where "Medico" splits off
by the start of the barriers went waaay back into town around 6 blocks. Seems like every T.J. transit cop was there directing traffic. It took me 2
1/2 hours to cross! Next time I will try 3 A.M., if I'm sober by then that is... .
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Solo Uno
Cheap untraceable 9mm.
CHEAP and 9mm being the operative words.
The total of Handguns which have no paper trail (most having been privately,and legally, purchased many-many years ago) is a half-dozen or so, but
most are quality weapons which I'd hate to throw away. The cheap off-brand .22 is probably not that good a choice, anyway, since I've always
considered it my "throwdown" gun. Worn 2-inch barrel. At anything over Ten feet, it would probably result in a miss in a stress situation. I used to
carry it around "Just in Case" the other guy (hopefully on the ground) needed a weapon.
Not having encountered a likely situation in years now, I'm probably just being Paranoid.
But, even Paranoids have enemies, as they say. Or mistakenly run into a bad situation.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by O.G.
I transited the Border around 10 A.M. Monday morning -- San Ysidro heading North. What a clusterf#@k that was. The line from where "Medico" splits off
by the start of the barriers went waaay back into town around 6 blocks. Seems like every T.J. transit cop was there directing traffic. It took me 2
1/2 hours to cross! Next time I will try 3 A.M., if I'm sober by then that is... . |
I got in line at Otay Mesa at 8:00am, 2 3/4 hours for me to cross that Monday morning. Normally under 2 hours, sometimes under 1 hour. I hope this
doesn't give the bad guys ideas about when to hit people. The Border is bad enough to cross without shootings going on in line.
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That Monday you guys are refering to was César Chávez Day....a holiday for some. I wonder if that had anything to do with the long wait time?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
That Monday you guys are refering to was César Chávez Day....a holiday for some. I wonder if that had anything to do with the long wait time?
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I crossed at the San Ysidro POE both Monday and Tuesday around 11am. Monday was much worse- 2.5 hours. Watched the traffic cops pull a few cars out
of line who had cut into it by the Smart & Final- they seem to be enjoying themselves (always Mexican ladies in big suv's it seems). If you were a
tourist heading to the border on the via rapida you were SOL- it was closed and you had to go into the zona rio which is also taped off at many
places. You'd think if they were trying to attract tourists, the tourist driving lanes would be left open- or maybe even given priority. nah... And
that new double-decker "toll road" they were supposed to start over the Via Rapida last November never happened wither.
On the two murders- I'm prone to accept the fighting for custody of a child and crime of passion angle. They weren't robbed, even of their US
passports which can go for thousands on the black market. People go nuts when you try to take their kids away to another country. The shooter likely
just walked away- in a hundred steps you are gone. Every car waiting in line has at least one Mexican talking on the cellphone but no one is going to
snap a photo, and it was night. You'd think one of the border crossing cameras would have it on tape though.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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incredible that there are no descriptions of the assassins floating around.
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Identities ?
I heard that they both had dirty rags in one hand, a Spray bottle in the other and dozens of Cellphone Charging cords around their necks.
Obviuosly, in an attempt to blend in.
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Police Chief Shot (Prima Topia)
On Sunday at Rosarito soccer field the head of the police in Prima
Topia was shot. He was taking his wife and kids to a soccer game in the heart of Rosarito and many 9mm shells were found. His wife was taken to the
hospital and his children were not hurt.It has been quite here for about 6 months and now,it seems to start again. A small item in the San Diego Trib
appeared on page two.Nothing in or on the Mexican news or radio.
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