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choyero
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Anyone know what would happen if a dog took out a bad guy? Would the dog be sent to the pound, for defending his territory?
I dont have anger management issues, I have idiot management issues.
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surfer jim
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Thanks for the details...and sorry for the diversion of the topic. Hope no one else has this encounter.
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by AmoPescar
Wow...very sad!
Hope they catch the bastards!
Miguelamo  YES YES YES |
Yeah right, Algezzera reported about 2 percent of homicides gets solved in Mexico.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jakecard
each new report of a beating, robbery or death slaps us awake. Baja is not a utopia. And life doesn't play out like a "dream." Not in Mexico, not in
the U.S.A., not anywhere. Whackos exist, and they strike capriciously everywhere. My thoughts go out to the Frey family for their tragic, senseless
loss.
to be sure a one-size-fits-all solution doesn't exist anymore than our ability to plan for every possible contingency.
But we can, like Mr. Frey, follow our individual path and choose to live life to the fullest.
The following well-known prayer seems appropriate:
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference."
Jake |
I echo this sentiment..thanks jakecard for putting it so well and understanding the complexities of baja.
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wilderone
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"My landlord stated that there is a canyon a few K's north of there where there is a farming operation. The whole thing was really uncomfortable and
really gave me pause about hanging out in a place we have done so for years."
That may have been the reason for the "contact" - a warning - or "go away". And now WE know about the "farming" operation. Thanks for the heads up.
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by choyero
Anyone know what would happen if a dog took out a bad guy? Would the dog be sent to the pound, for defending his territory? |
Good question. I decided to research this and the best I found is this:Si pones un cartel en la entrada de "Perros peligrosos" aunque tus perros
muerdan a los ladrones, vecinos y cualquier otra persona no pueden denunciarte. Pon el cartel bien visible en la entrada.
Basically, as in the states, you must have a sign posted indicating the presence of "dangerous Dog" in your property.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"My landlord stated that there is a canyon a few K's north of there where there is a farming operation. The whole thing was really uncomfortable and
really gave me pause about hanging out in a place we have done so for years."
That may have been the reason for the "contact" - a warning - or "go away". And now WE know about the "farming" operation. Thanks for the heads up.
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This farming operation? Looks like the Ensenada police were growing Pot, protected by some Military deserters.
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/3/estat...
"TIJUANA .- The conflict between the military and municipal police in the town of San Quintin, Ensenada, started from that Army personnel seized the
patch of 120 hectares of marijuana in the town of El Rosario, General Gilberto Landeros revealed Briseno."
The commander of the Second Military Zone said that after this discovery found that local authorities in the area, including police, by default did
not do many things.
Even Army deserters were found attached as traffic wardens, but that research and competence of other authorities, he said. "
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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redmesa
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Sounds like Mendocino County!
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Mengano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jakecard
But we can, like Mr. Frey, follow our individual path and choose to live life to the fullest. |
I'm curious how you happen to know Mr. Frey followed his "individual path" and "lived life to the fullest"?
Seems to me that dying brutally at age 66, when American males attaining that age usually live into their 80's, means he only got 80% of a full life.
Do you think his children are content with all this?
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jakecard
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If I was confident that you genuinely didn't understand the spirit of my post then I would certainly clarify what I meant by giving you a sincere
response, Mengano.
But you have twisted a verb tense, imputed meaning that is non-existent and in trying to be clever have exposed your own pathology.
Not taking your bait.
Jake
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Gypsy Jan
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Some Kinds of Guns for Foreign Residents are Legal
But, of course, not for tourists.
This has been covered extensively in other posts, I apologize if I am being redundant to the already informed.
If you are a legal resident (FM 3 and better), you can apply for a gun license.
Unless the rules have changed, first you join a duly-licensed hunting club, and then apply at the local armory to have a background check done.
Once you have been approved, and it takes some time, you are issued a "License to Carry Firearms", which means that you can legally transport the guns
in your car to and from your home to your "hunting" destination.
The only kicker is that you must go the armory to purchase your allotted ten bullets per year.
There are ways around the bullet limit, but I am not going to encourage smuggling in any way whatsoever.
On a side note, a highly placed police officer once advised us, "Don't shoot anybody outside of your house, or in the back, you are automatically
judged as guilty." Then he went on to say, "Regardless, it's much better if something happens that you simply dump the body in the ocean."
Nothing like the scenario above has ever happened to us (knocking on wood and thanking our dogs for being good guardians and alerting us to possible
intruders).
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I find myself reading these type stories with a very different perspective now.
My sincere condolences to his family and friends... |
I know what you are saying is true. As you two heal and slowly put your lives back in order again it must be hard, if not impossible- to see things
the same way as before. Your community and friends rallied around you, sadly this guys friends didn't get that chance. |
Without all of the quick help from our friends and neighbors these guys would probably never have been caught and Cristina and I would certainly be
dead. We are eternally indebted to them.
It is a changing environment and certainly one needs to step back and take another look at things. We are going back to San Quintin but I wouldn't
blame anybody who thinks differently.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I find myself reading these type stories with a very different perspective now.
My sincere condolences to his family and friends... |
I know what you are saying is true. As you two heal and slowly put your lives back in order again it must be hard, if not impossible- to see things
the same way as before. Your community and friends rallied around you, sadly this guys friends didn't get that chance. |
Without all of the quick help from our friends and neighbors these guys would probably never have been caught and Cristina and I would certainly be
dead. We are eternally indebted to them.
It is a changing environment and certainly one needs to step back and take another look at things. We are going back to San Quintin but I wouldn't
blame anybody who thinks differently. |
Everyone will be watch to see how you deal with what you went
through. People are posting about other options for retirement, but getting in and out as a tourist will remain a "safe-enough" option for most.
You are individuals who went through different violent experiences and will deal with it individually as well as commonly. It'll take time, don't
rush it. The abalone will grow just fine on their own for a while. Get back to your new normal when you can.
[Edited on 10-24-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Sorry to say that with the latest news from Mexico it has become time to start looking at Chile's pacific coast for retirement. Mexico's lack of law
abiding police and people is very dangerous. I lived in mexico city for 5 years in the 70/80's and it is getting to the point where it is too
dangerous for me and mi family. I love Mexico but Ididn't work all this years and plan on spending my retirement constantly watching my back!
Arica, North coast of Chile has temperate climate. Hopefully the mexican government gets a handle on the criminal activity in the next few years.
Good to see you Baja Gringo postingagain!
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Seems an arrest was made
2 Arrested in Slaying of American in Ensenada
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DENNIS
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Excellent news. Thanks.
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sanquintinsince73
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Here is their photo.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Excellent news. Thanks. |
Not if you have Mexican tenants.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Mengano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Para ellos, la vida vale madre.
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sanquintinsince73
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A short story on the march that was held in Mr. Frey's memory. He was very well liked.
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/edicionimpresa.aspx?ed=ensenad...
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