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[*] posted on 1-30-2012 at 06:07 PM


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Just spoke to a friend who has been through Gonzaga in the last 2 weeks.

He tells me the Pemex was out of gasoline.....can anybody confirm this?

Do they expect a delivery and will they have magna....plan to pass through in 2 weeks or so...


You should always plan on no gas south of San Felipe. If the Pemex is out, check across the road at Rancho Grande where they used to sell gas before the Pemex was opened. They can only sell gas now when the Pemex is out.

Top your tank in San Felipe... Gonzaga is 100 miles south.

The next Pemex south of Gonzaga is Bahia de los Angeles and Villa Jesus Maria, then the Eagle Monument/ Guerrero Negro.

ALSO, independent dealers sell gas from cans at the Bahia de los Angeles Jcn. on Hwy. 1.

Gas was also advertised at Laguna Chapala, just 36 miles from Gonzaga Bay. Again, don't count on it... be prepared... have gas for 300 miles when you fill up and expect at least 200 miles between gas supplies, just in case!


Wow, thanks, last year must have been an anomaly.......there was gas in Puertocitas and Gonzaga.....we'll need to carry some extra....Goal is San Felipe to BOLA on day 2....




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[*] posted on 1-30-2012 at 06:14 PM


Not sure what your driving or how big a tank you have or what your mileage is... but unless you have some extra gas cans (fill in Mexico)... just be aware of the locations of gas and that Pemex stations in central Baja often run out... briefly, but it can mess up a trip if you need to camp out in a gas staion line instead of the beach!



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[*] posted on 1-30-2012 at 07:05 PM


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Not sure what your driving or how big a tank you have or what your mileage is... but unless you have some extra gas cans (fill in Mexico)... just be aware of the locations of gas and that Pemex stations in central Baja often run out... briefly, but it can mess up a trip if you need to camp out in a gas staion line instead of the beach!


PEMEX stations OFTEN run out????
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[*] posted on 1-30-2012 at 11:23 PM


In Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay, yes!



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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 09:12 AM


If I may add this ...........


Clara at Puertecitos has gas a great deal of the time. If the station "looks" closed....walk to the rear and look for the attendant. Or...go over to the Puertecitos Camp and ask them to open the pumps for you. This town is an hour or so south of San Felipe.

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Just spoke to a friend who has been through Gonzaga in the last 2 weeks.

He tells me the Pemex was out of gasoline.....can anybody confirm this?

Do they expect a delivery and will they have magna....plan to pass through in 2 weeks or so...


You should always plan on no gas south of San Felipe. If the Pemex is out, check across the road at Rancho Grande where they used to sell gas before the Pemex was opened. They can only sell gas now when the Pemex is out.

Top your tank in San Felipe... Gonzaga is 100 miles south.

The next Pemex south of Gonzaga is Bahia de los Angeles and Villa Jesus Maria, then the Eagle Monument/ Guerrero Negro.

ALSO, independent dealers sell gas from cans at the Bahia de los Angeles Jcn. on Hwy. 1.

Gas was also advertised at Laguna Chapala, just 36 miles from Gonzaga Bay. Again, don't count on it... be prepared... have gas for 300 miles when you fill up and expect at least 200 miles between gas supplies, just in case!





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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 09:25 AM


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In Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay, yes!


Your previous statement

"just be aware of the locations of gas and that Pemex stations in central Baja often run out... briefly, but it can mess up a trip if you need to camp out in a gas staion line instead of the beach! "

must be an exaggeration then?
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 02:55 PM


Maybe because I have been going to Baja so many more years is why I advise caution on expecting everything to work in Baja. Specially a government controlled monopoly like Pemex. The conservative way is to plan for such and not hope the government to provide all.



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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 03:17 PM


Gas in Baja....it's always best to keep the top half of the tank full....do NOT pass a Pemex or other fuel supplier if you are less than half full.:saint: :light:

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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 04:15 PM


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Maybe because I have been going to Baja so many more years is why I advise caution on expecting everything to work in Baja. Specially a government controlled monopoly like Pemex. The conservative way is to plan for such and not hope the government to provide all.


so many more years than who? Not me senor.


And you know what...There were people there way before our family ever went. Some post on this board

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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 04:58 PM


The conservative way is to plan for such and not hope....

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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 05:03 PM


Fact is that the PEMEX stations in central Baja SOMETIMES run out. Not OFTEN as the previous knee-jerk response stated.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 05:15 PM


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when it's not there for you...that's TO often
slept in my share of stations..
Also once lowered a can with my fishing pole down into the unsecured undergound tank at the closed station by the Bola turn off...got enough to get me to the next station. Made the kids do the catchin'.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 05:59 PM


I've always been able to get gas at Gonzaga.

The last time we found an empty Pemex was at San Ignacio. Nothing to do but sit on the steps of that little mercado next door and beg.

After 2 days we took a chance on Vizcaino and hit the mother lode. Gas everywhere. Brought tears of joy to my eyes.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 06:23 PM


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I've always been able to get gas at Gonzaga.

The last time we found an empty Pemex was at San Ignacio. Nothing to do but sit on the steps of that little mercado next door and beg.

After 2 days we took a chance on Vizcaino and hit the mother lode. Gas everywhere. Brought tears of joy to my eyes.


We'll need to fill up there for the run to San Juanico.....is there a forecast for Baja mogas in the next three weeks? The map shows all these station locations but doesn't update whether they have it or are open.........:?:




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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 06:44 PM


Before the Pemex, we had to wait overnight one time for Rancho Grande to get some gas. (no big deal as it was late in the day anyway). But it can happen anywhere and about anytime.



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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 06:51 PM


Exactly my friends... why chance it... specially if you value your vacation time to not waste a second at an empty Pemex station!



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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 07:28 PM


Sweetwater...

We just drove up from Ciudad through San Juanito and San Ignacio several weeks ago. The "gas station" at San Juanito was pretty informal...cans of gas at a grocery. I worried about the quality and with dozens of miles of backroads skipped topping off there. I had no problem getting through San Ignacio and on to GN for fuel with a Toyota Tundra V8.

We also had no trouble getting to San Felipe on the next tank. Gonzaga Pemex was closed at 4:00 that day.

I do carry a couple 5 gal. containers just in case.

FWIW, a couple years back a delivery problem had no fuel at Jesus Maria, GN or San Ign. I somehow made it from San Q to S Rosalita!

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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 08:05 PM


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Fact is that the PEMEX stations in central Baja SOMETIMES run out. Not OFTEN as the previous knee-jerk response stated.


Rts I rarely agree with DK, but this time he is correct. The stations in puertecitos are often closed or out of fuel. If they do have it and are closed it's just a matter of finding the operators (usually) but if they are out ... I'm sure you know this to be correct.

Personally, I carry 95 gallons of diesel on my truck, so as long as I am full at one end I can get to the other. Baja insurance. Less necessary than it used to be, but nice to have.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 08:12 PM


I agree, with many of you. in years past fuel could be a problem anywhere. And still is in a few out of the way places. I only took exception to David's characterization that central baja OFTEN runs out of fuel. Kindal like there is (or isn't) crime everywhere in Mexico. Myself, I seldom carry extra diesel anymore (except in my garage) and I have never run out.

Ralph

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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 08:56 PM


Ralph,

I can remember in the 80's (83) where one gas station in Loreto had gas and the other didn't. And just after you figured out which was which the reverse would be true.

But we never sweated it too much because vacations were long and this was the expected.

Things are different now and we're all on a schedule. A hiccup and everything comes to a halt.

I'm not saying the past is better than the present. I'm saying some of the past is still here now.
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