BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1    3    5  6
Author: Subject: Elderly American Kayaking couple lost at sea in San Felipe
BajaNomad
Super Administrator
*********


Avatar


Posts: 4999
Registered: 8-1-2002
Location: San Diego, CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: INTP-A

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 07:21 PM


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/11/body-missing-kaya...



When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel

We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

https://www.regionalinternet.com
Affordable Domain Name Registration/Management & cPanel Web Hosting - since 1999
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
EnsenadaDr
Banned





Posts: 5027
Registered: 9-12-2011
Location: Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 07:41 PM


Very sad ending...wonder if it was a chubasco...
View user's profile
Hook
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9010
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
Member Is Offline

Mood: Inquisitive

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 07:47 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Very sad ending...wonder if it was a chubasco...


In early April? EDIT: Very UN-likely. The accepted definition of a chubasco is a thunderstorm.

[Edited on 4-12-2012 by Hook]

[Edited on 4-12-2012 by Hook]




View user's profile
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
*******




Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 08:03 PM


whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....




View user's profile
EnsenadaDr
Banned





Posts: 5027
Registered: 9-12-2011
Location: Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:06 PM
Agreed, Woody..


I think a situation like this could make people more aware of what not to do...I would like to hear something from people who knew them or have heard more details..evidently the guy wasn't wearing a life vest, either...
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....
View user's profile
MrBillM
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 21656
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Out and About
Member Is Offline

Mood: It's a Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah Day

[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:31 PM
What's that they say ?


You've got to accentuate the positive. Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative......... ?

"They Died doing what they loved" ?

I never thought that sounded like such a great consolation, but it seems to be a Bromide (too) often proffered in cases of Death at Adventure.

On the other hand, Given how many that old (or even younger) I've seen wasting away towards an ignoble end in "Care" facilities, maybe it's appropriate.
View user's profile
meme
Senior Nomad
***


Avatar


Posts: 756
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: San Felipe,BC
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 08:12 AM


They were friends & neighbors of friends of ours. They left in the morning for a day of Kayaking south of SF. Expecting to return that evening (Thursday) as they also had dogs to care for at home.Our friend offered to look after the dogs but the Wheelers assured them they would be home later in the day.
I did not hear nor did I read anything about him not wearing a life vest?
This is a tragic thing & accidents do happen--not always any explanation for the circumstances when no one else is there at the time. So not too likly anyone will know EXACTLY what took place.
View user's profile
sancho
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 11:20 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
evidently the guy wasn't wearing a life vest, either...[quote





Good point, and I don't care how Old he was, that is Not
a situation one would want to find oneself in, whether
he was doing something he loved or not. I've been
in a tent just so. of Puerticitos at 3 am the wind blowing
40 mph out to the Cortez , flattening the tent, I even
turned the truck into the wind
View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 01:32 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by meme
Posted on the tenth.

These people were found today both drowned. Sad story for sure.


This story, written on the eleventh, also in Doug's link above, says they're still searching for the woman. It also gives the man's age as 70 rather than 78.
Does anybody in the media know what's going on out there?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/11/body-missing-kaya...


.

[Edited on 4-12-2012 by DENNIS]
View user's profile
EnsenadaDr
Banned





Posts: 5027
Registered: 9-12-2011
Location: Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 03:01 PM


Don't think they found the woman, Dennis. And the guys age in three of the articles I have read was 78. We all know that if YOU were out in that kayak, you would have returned back safely to San Felipe beating your chest like King Kong in your tarzan outfit...what a man!!!
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by meme
Posted on the tenth.

These people were found today both drowned. Sad story for sure.


This story, written on the eleventh, also in Doug's link above, says they're still searching for the woman. It also gives the man's age as 70 rather than 78.
Does anybody in the media know what's going on out there?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/11/body-missing-kaya...


.

[Edited on 4-12-2012 by DENNIS]
View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 03:19 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
We all know that if YOU were out in that kayak, you would have returned back safely to San Felipe beating your chest like King Kong in your tarzan outfit...what a man!!!


Yeah....you betcha. In fact, I wouldn't need no stinkin' Kayak. I'd have walked. :lol:
View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 18398
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 03:52 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....


the news article said he was 70. i know a few 70 year olds who can kick a$$ in endurance sports. 70 is not too old for serious kayaking.

that said, i don't know particulars about this guy, but don't be so quick to say a 70- or 80 year old can't do physically demanding sports.

i plan to kick most 40-yo a$$e$ when i hit 75 yo!
View user's profile
Barry A.
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 10007
Registered: 11-30-2003
Location: Redding, Northern CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: optimistic

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 03:55 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....


the news article said he was 70. i know a few 70 year olds who can kick a$$ in endurance sports. 70 is not too old for serious kayaking.

that said, i don't know particulars about this guy, but don't be so quick to say a 70- or 80 year old can't do physically demanding sports.

i plan to kick most 40-yo a$$e$ when i hit 75 yo!


I am 74--------------been active all my life in the outdoors, and can testify that you may have to change those "plans", Goat. I certainly hope that you won't, but have a contingency plan or 2, just in case. :lol:

Barry
View user's profile
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
********




Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 04:01 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
i plan to kick most 40-yo a$$e$ when i hit 75 yo!


We can only hope you try. :lol:
View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 18398
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 04:03 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Barry A.
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....


the news article said he was 70. i know a few 70 year olds who can kick a$$ in endurance sports. 70 is not too old for serious kayaking.

that said, i don't know particulars about this guy, but don't be so quick to say a 70- or 80 year old can't do physically demanding sports.

i plan to kick most 40-yo a$$e$ when i hit 75 yo!


I am 74--------------been active all my life in the outdoors, and can testify that you may have to change those "plans", Goat. I certainly hope that you won't, but have a contingency plan or 2, just in case. :lol:

Barry


if fred beckey can keep going at age 88, so can i :bounce::bounce:
View user's profile
durrelllrobert
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 7393
Registered: 11-22-2007
Location: Punta Banda BC
Member Is Offline

Mood: thriving in Baja

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 04:35 PM


SDUT says:
The Mexican navy on Wednesday continued its search in an area south of Puertecitos for his wife Barbara Wheeler, said Felipe de Jesús Vallecillo, the port captain in San Felipe.
But her name IS/was BOBBI, not Barbara. Something lost in translation like his age.




Bob Durrell
View user's profile
bacquito
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1615
Registered: 3-6-2007
Member Is Offline

Mood: jubilado

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 04:36 PM


Were they in a 'sit on the top" type kayak or a "sit in" with a skirt? It is difficult to believe they did not have life vest. Hect, I use a life vest if I kayak in the Colorado River (actually the law says I must!)



bacquito
View user's profile
woody with a view
PITA Nomad
*******




Posts: 15939
Registered: 11-8-2004
Location: Looking at the Coronado Islands
Member Is Offline

Mood: Everchangin'

[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 09:44 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
whatever the cause, the guy was almost 80 years old. how would he protect his wife in an emergency if things went bad? what was their plan? doesn't anyone in the campo know them and have any insight?

just seems like such a waste. they either decided to go out like that or they were fools. either way, the result is the same. sad, but Darwin understood.....


the news article said he was 70. i know a few 70 year olds who can kick a$$ in endurance sports. 70 is not too old for serious kayaking.

that said, i don't know particulars about this guy, but don't be so quick to say a 70- or 80 year old can't do physically demanding sports.

i plan to kick most 40-yo a$$e$ when i hit 75 yo!


cmon Goat. we all know you have a hard head and that would prolly keep you alive whence none other would survive! least i'd hope so and would wait to hear your story....

that said, the 99% would have drowned within 5 minutes of their YAK flipping them the bird. with the internet and the plethora (word of the day!) of sites that forecast wind gradients, i'd hope that you/we/me could all have a better grip on what the day has in store.....

nyme sayng?




View user's profile
willardguy
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6451
Registered: 9-19-2009
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 10:09 PM


I dont think so, its different over there. there is no predicting the wind. having been in gonzaga for years we still marvel at how fast the wind direction can completely reverse then moments later come from a completely different direction. its enough to keep you close to shore.
View user's profile
EnsenadaDr
Banned





Posts: 5027
Registered: 9-12-2011
Location: Baja California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Move on. It is just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book- just turn the page

[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 03:46 AM
Life vest...


So even with a life vest you can drown? I was thinking of taking up kayaking in Hawaii...but now I am not so sure..
Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
Were they in a 'sit on the top" type kayak or a "sit in" with a skirt? It is difficult to believe they did not have life vest. Hect, I use a life vest if I kayak in the Colorado River (actually the law says I must!)
View user's profile
 Pages:  1    3    5  6

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262