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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 05:08 PM


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My family and I finally got our cards.... my kids have to renew every 4 years until they are 18....
My wife and I? Never.
Have to Nationalize my Isuzu and the Toyota won't fly.... whatever.

I can apply for citizenship in 4 years.

Life is good here in Nayarit!:biggrin:


For those located in the Mainland of Mexico, there is definitely a requirement to nationalize your vehicle if you have Resedente Permanente status, and, Nayarit is certainly in Mainland Mexico.

I've read some literature lately that may indicate that nationalizing of US plated vehicles may not be a requirement in Baja because the Baja is, in its entirety, a "Free Zone".

Every time I see the wording, however, it is not absolutely conclusive. When you read about the requirements for nationalizing such vehicles by those that get their Residente Permanente, there is always a separate phrase saying that nationalizing of US plated vehicles requirements does not apply to any part of the Baja because it is a Free Zone.

I would like to see something authoritative that specifically says that those who reside in Baja that get their Residente Permanente status do not have to nationalize their vehicles. Haven't seen that wording yet anywhere, but I have seen the phrase saying that Nationalizing of foreign vehicles is not a requirement in Baja. There is a difference.

[Edited on 2-26-2013 by MitchMan]


They are also saying people with work permits can not drive foreign plated vehicles either on the mainland.

Also here is the kicker. the new insurance regs for a life went from USD$50k to USD$300k in baja sur at least. so if you are illegal by Mexicos laws if you are in a US plated vehicle the insurance company can deny the claim. They certainly do that in the USA all the time.

So with the new costs for a death this would leave a person in jail a long time. Who wants to be the test case for this one.... All I am doing here is just letting people who are risk adverse know what the potential is now.

Can anyone tell me what it costs to import cars. I was recently told that at the Otay Mesa Office to remove the TIP stickers there is a business across the street from them that says they can nationalize a car in 6 hours.

Lets have this information if anyone has it.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 05:21 PM


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Can anyone tell me what it costs to import cars.


Depends on the vehicle's age. A ten year old Baja beater will cost around 500 dollars.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 06:46 PM
Don't let you FM3/FM2 expire before submitting aplication for Residente Permanente


A friend here in Punta Banda hired and paid an agent to apply for her RP 30 days before her FM2 expired. The agent did not submit the application until the day after it expired so it was rejected and she now has to start the 4 year period all over with a Residente Temporal card

[Edited on 6-2-2013 by durrelllrobert]




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 07:22 PM


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A friend here in Punta Banda hired and paid an agent to apply for her RP 30 days before her FM2 expired. The agent did not submit the application until the day after it expired so it was rejected and she now has to start the 4 year period all over with a Residente Temporal card

[Edited on 6-2-2013 by durrelllrobert]




The same thing happened to me. Needless to say the Responsible party is no longer working for me. And will never again.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 07:54 PM


I left Mexico three months in to the P/R application on a 60 day temporary exit visa. After 30 days was notified I needed to come in for finger printing so I contacted my INM attorney and explained that I was having some medical procedures done and also wanted to file income taxes before returning to Mexico. I was told everything would be fine and I entered Mexico 30 days late on my temp and no one said anything about it. Went in to The INM office had prints taken and 14 days later had my card in hand. I think they may be very flexible on the exit visas.
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[*] posted on 6-4-2013 at 10:54 PM


It's been quite interesting to read everyone's immigration process experiences. I was just in Sta. Rosalia to process my new status, and deposte calling ahead to notify the office that I would process late due to personal issues, I was told that I had to start the entire process over because my FM3 (which i've had for nine years) had expired. Funny, because I was told by phone in April that I had six months to apply for the new immigration status once my FM3 had expired. Now I understand that only applies to people with FM2's. Those have to expire and then you have six months to apply for new status. Had I showed up one day before my card expired, I would have been fine. Long story short, after paying a hefty fine for being late and feesf or the new card, I left Sta. Rosalia with the infamous letter and will return for my new "Residente Temporal" card after getting an email from La Paz...hopefully sometime in July/August. So basically, don;t let your FM3 expire. I just lost nine years of resident status despite having notified them in advance...oh well, lessons learned....
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[*] posted on 6-5-2013 at 05:38 AM


Regarding the importacion/nationalization of cars at Otay Mesa:
The office is right next door to the banjercito office at the border. The business is called Sanchez y Asociados. Their phone number is 664-217-9131. Their e-mail (or at least the e-mail of the man we spoke to) is: luisimporta@yahoo.com. They were recommended to us by the people at the banjercito office. Luis said that a newer pickup (you can't import one newer than 2007 I believe) would cost around $1000 USD and the price would go down with the age of the vehicle. And, yes, he said it could be done in 6 or 7 hours. We will be nationalizing our truck through them in September and will let you know how it goes.
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[*] posted on 6-5-2013 at 11:48 AM


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Is that like a Kaiser Permanente card? :lol:

(sorry, couldn't resist)


Hahahahaha. Good one, King Nomad!
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[*] posted on 6-9-2013 at 05:24 PM


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Has anyone in the Loreto area actually received their residencia permanente? Lots of people are waiting after being fingerprinted with lots of promises but proof is in the pudidng!

Has anyone actually received their card in any other areas?
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[*] posted on 6-9-2013 at 05:25 PM


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Has anyone in the Loreto area actually received their residencia permanente? Lots of people are waiting after being fingerprinted with lots of promises but proof is in the pudidng!

Has anyone actually received their card in any other areas?


My husband and I received ours in Ensenada last week. No
expiration date.
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[*] posted on 6-9-2013 at 05:29 PM
Ensenada


Got mine in hand, easy squeezy!!



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[*] posted on 6-9-2013 at 05:37 PM


Everyone that I know who has applied through the La Paz office has gotten theirs with no problem. Ours took two weeks after being fingerprinted.



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[*] posted on 6-10-2013 at 07:56 AM


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... and will return for my new "Residente Temporal" card after getting an email from La Paz...



Don't just sit back and wait for the La Paz INM office to email you, (like they say they will) The emails are NOT happening.

Be pro-active and keep checking. They had asked for my email two or three times "for notifications".

The current notification system is to post a list on the wall in the waiting room. Stopped in one day, checked "the list", my name was on it, walked out with my card in about twenty minutes. "The list" was dated two weeks prior, and, NO email.

Also, after fingerprinting, your status is not updated or tracked on INM's "sigue su tramite" (follow your application) website.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2013 at 07:56 AM


Except for the comic replies, this thread is a tribute to what happens when one tries to make sense out of nonsense. No offense meant to any posters, just a reflection on us gringos and the Mexican way of doing things.



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[*] posted on 6-10-2013 at 08:34 PM


BTW, just received word my RP card is ready to pick up at my agents. Total time from submission to card 6 weeks including journey to Mex. City for processing. Not bad. Early applicants had a hell of a time. Looks like the learning curve is flattening out.



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[*] posted on 6-11-2013 at 06:59 AM


I got mine and I'm done with it....until they change things anyway. :fire:
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[*] posted on 6-11-2013 at 11:28 AM


Good for you Dennis, finally!
And you beated me, mine is on its way but took forever also.




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[*] posted on 6-11-2013 at 11:37 AM


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Good for you Dennis, finally!
And you beated me, mine is on its way but took forever also.


Stay on top of it, Leo. Mine was in Immigration for I don't know how long before I finally called the agent to look into it. It seems they don't communicate with each other unless they're asked to do so. That's the Ensenada way.
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[*] posted on 6-11-2013 at 02:03 PM


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Good for you Dennis, finally!
And you beated me, mine is on its way but took forever also.


Stay on top of it, Leo. Mine was in Immigration for I don't know how long before I finally called the agent to look into it. It seems they don't communicate with each other unless they're asked to do so. That's the Ensenada way.


X2, Leo

At the risk of repeating myself from earlier in the thread:

Don't just sit back and wait for the La Paz INM office to email you, (like they say they will) The emails are NOT happening.

Be pro-active and keep checking. They had asked for my email two or three times "for notifications".

The current notification system is to post a list on the wall in the waiting room. Stopped in one day, checked "the list", my name was on it, walked out with my card in about twenty minutes. "The list" was dated two weeks prior, and, NO email.

Also, after fingerprinting, your status is not updated or tracked on INM's "sigue su tramite" (follow your application) website.
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[*] posted on 6-11-2013 at 02:54 PM


"A friend here in Punta Banda hired and paid an agent to apply for her RP 30 days before her FM2 expired. The agent did not submit the application until the day after it expired so it was rejected and she now has to start the 4 year period all over with a Residente Temporal card"
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WHAAAAAAAAAT? We went into migracion today and asked when we should apply for our permanente status. Our FM2's expire at the end of August 2013. The agent said we cannot apply until AFTER our FM2's expire. We then have 6mo. to apply for perm. status. I asked what if we flew out of Mexico and returned after our FM2,s had expired, she said our expired doc's would be legal and we should just tell migracion at the airport that we were going to apply for perm. status. She said we cannot apply before our FM2's expire.
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