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dasubergeek
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They keep climbing... 50$ a kilo at the Central de Abastos in Oaxaca on Tuesday, 70$ a kilo on Saturday.
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i just made the best ceviche with WSB using lemon since i have a tree. when i topped it off with clamato the next day you'd never know the
difference......
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dasubergeek
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The price of limes in Oaxaca was 50$ a kilo on Tuesday and 70$ a kilo on Saturday—and they were poor-quality limes, hardly any juice at all. There's a
plague affecting lime trees in Michoacán and Colima (but not all of them, obviously) that causes the fruit to turn hard and yellow. They call it the
dragón amarillo.
El Imparcial (which is PRD-leaning) had a huge front-page article about how the middlemen are the biggest issue, that Oaxaca has enough production for
its own needs but that the middlemen are price-fixing to take advantage of the lime crisis and make more money, while screwing over the lime
producers, etc. The report said that the lime producers are getting 10-12$ a kilo, but by the time it goes through two middlemen and the Central de
Abastos (wholesale produce market on the outskirts of Oaxaca), the limes you buy in front of Benito Juárez market are 50$, 60$, or even 70$ a kilo.
There was also a heist outside of Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz last week; armed bandits surprised a lime truck on the road, tied up the driver, and made
off with 3.25 mdp ($250,000) worth of limes.
Nobody is giving limes... you used to get a bowl of limes with everything, now it's impossible to get even one in a restaurant.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Precio de Limones Please Pass The Crow...
At first I was convinced speculators were to blame for the ballooning of limones prices.
Today I find out from family that the limones shortage is a protest from los limoneros. They are tired of the intimidation, corruption, extortion and
protection rackets from the cartels and the do-absolutely-nothing attitude of local, state and federal police. So they quit. Why tend orchards then
give all the money to scumbags?
So when suffering through limon withdrawals maybe this will help to understand. No my limones did not make it to market.
I would not be surprised at all if this spread to aguacates de Uruapan when the temporada arrives. Then pineapples from Playa Azul.
But I must retract my comments about speculators causing the shortage.
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Wish it was NAFTA
Florida has had HLB for almost 10 years and they have lost over 400,000 acres of citrus because of this disease. It is serious as a heart attack.
Could lay waste to citrus in the state of California. Our positive find in the LA Area was some Evangelical Chinese pastor went home to China and
smuggled a pomelo cutting back into the US and grafted it on his tree. The graft was successful and he gave his congregation cuttings. The problem is
that it can take 3-5 years to show up once the tree is infected. There is no cure except for total distruction of the tree and surronding trees. Some
trees are more resistant than others but the outcome is the same.If I remember correctly lemons and limes are more resistant than other citrus.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
What complete mierda. There is no way that the cold snaps in the US have reached the states of Guerrero, Colima or Michoacan.
I just did a brief look and the temperature in Colima hasnt dropped below 60F all winter.........AT NIGHT!!!
The backyard citrus harvest in San Carlos has been in full swing for some time. We are hundreds of miles further north than those other states and we
havent had a night below 50 degrees since early December. It's been the warmest winter, coupled with the lightest winds, than any local can remember.
I suspect price fixing. Even if the cost of insurance doubled for truckers, it would amount to so little when defrayed over all the limes (and other
produce) carried. Where's the quadrupling of other produce if it is insurance related? So much produce comes from Sinaloa, which is a cartel hotbed.
Where's the cartel related increases on the flavorless tomatoes we are forced to buy?
I guess it's possible that the cold has affected harvests in Florida and Texas. But I cant imagine it justifies a quadrupling of prices. Limes are
grown in Central and So. America, too.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
You don't need to smuggle them, Hook.
They are legal to bring NOB, just declare them (or not).
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
We're swimming in backyard limes right now.
Hey, maybe I should smuggle limes NORTH next week!!! :LOL: |
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Man, I wish I knew/remembered this. I've thrown a ton of limes away. I'm too scared after bringing dog food back during the swine flu outbreak.
Now, I give almost everything away before crossing. Can't risk it with Sentri. No meat, no fruit, nothing not packaged is my rule.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
You don't need to smuggle them, Hook.
They are legal to bring NOB, just declare them (or not).
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https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/82/related/1
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can you use the argument, but but, this guy
on bajanomads said.........
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
can you use the argument, but but, this guy on bajanomads said.........
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Only if you drop David K's name.
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Just when you thought it couldnt get worst.....
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/stickaforkinit/2014/03/lime_prices...
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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dasubergeek
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They were $3 a pound, $5 for a sack at the Northgate supermarket in Santa Ana last night. Unbelievable.
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58 pesos per kilo at Lazarraga, Todos Santos, today.
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DENNIS
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Why limes in Mexico have suddenly tripled in price
By Roberto A. Ferdman @robferdman January 23, 2014
http://qz.com/169555/why-limes-in-mexico-suddenly-cost-four-...
http://www.freshplaza.com/article/117114/Mexico-Lime-prices-...
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[Edited on 3-19-2014 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
slightly OT - but I once was in a market and had a lime in one hand and a lemon n the other. I walked up to the produce worker and raised the lime
and asked "que es?". He said "lemon"; I raise the lemon and he says "lemon". Huh?
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I remembered this question when I was in Super Ley Cd. C. yesterday. First time I have seen 'American' limones there.
[Edited on 3-26-2014 by CP]
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woody with a view
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here's an idea. let the growers hold back production and quit buying them. if there is no market for limes they'll get the hint real quick.
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Whilst roaming through Baja the past several weeks, I depended on the local mercados to support my inquisitive nature about tequilas that I never see
north of the border. I would buy something like a bottle of Juan Roberto reposada with 2 limons and present the purchase to the cashier. Without fail,
the limon's were gratis with a smile and a Muchos Gracias from me.......
I had no idea there's a SHORtAGe....?
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People who sent cash subsidies to los carteleros were successful. The LCT branched out beautifully. Limoneros have to pay 20% of their crop in money
lost to coyotes the only people who will purchase and transport limones, mangoes and platinos in my home area. How would you like to own and maintain
a huerta de mangos and be offered 26 pesos for 16 kg of fruit and the fruit cannot have manchas de fungicida on them. Transport the fruit yourself to
a mercado de abastos anywhere and the vendors will not buy it - from anyone but a recognized coyote.
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Just saw this at the bottom of Dennis' link above:
http://www.freshplaza.com/article/119187/Mexico-Middlemen-ra...
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The cartels have found this brilliant commodity to control.
Yup. Mexico uses a lot of them.
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Udo
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They are already doing that because the cartels will only give then a small percentage of what the market will bear. The growers refused to sell them
at that low a price.
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
here's an idea. let the growers hold back production and quit buying them. if there is no market for limes they'll get the hint real quick.
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