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mtgoat666
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....let's save the post-analysis until she's onshore at least--REALLY!!
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I disagree. In the old days people went off on adventure and did not blog about it daily. Now that adventurers are compelled to write daily blog
entries, I think continuous arm chair quarter backing and game analysis is not only expected but is demanded! Analyze away!
And if the rower does not want ongoing critique, then rower can quit blogging about it.
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mtgoat666
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Btw, I think she has guts to stick it out despite unfavorable results. She bested all the other solo rowers. She is 100x tougher/determined/focused
than those 805gregg and Rsailor turkeys!
[Edited on 7-27-2014 by mtgoat666]
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bajabuddha
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DITTO, GOAT !
I once watched a documentary in the '90's about an old goat named Norman Vaughan, who in the '20's was a dog-musher for the Byrd expedition to the
South Pole. He got a mountain named after him in Antarctica; Mt. Vaughan. In the early '90's he attempted to take a team down and climb his
mountain. Took 3 different attempts, each of the first two ending in disaster. The third attempt was tiny in funding and support, but at 78 years
old, artificial hips and knees, he pushed-pulled his way to the top. Tearfully, frozen waterfalls down both cheeks off his chin, he said, "If I can
pass anything on to the youth of today is, YOU HAVE TO DARE TO FAIL!". I sat there and bawled along with him, and right after, sold my home and
business, took a year sabbatical homeless and unemployed on the road, and re-invented myself.
This li'l lady in that 5 point harness and sea-anchor has more moxie than I probably ever did, and I've lived hard. If I could aid this endeavor in
any way I would; it would be an honor to support someone, win or lose in their quest, who has that much chutzpah.
Shari, when she gets to your digs, please give her an 'ATTA-GIRL!" for me.
Y'all remember the ''DARE TO FAIL'' bit.... I go back to it often and regularly.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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jbcoug
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Buddha, Thanks for sharing the Norman Vaughan story, very impressive man and attitude! I'll definitely look into learning more about him.
\"The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.\" Andy Rooney
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bullox
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Hey folks,
Thanks for the amazing messages I've received publicly and privately, and thanks in particular to Shari for all of her support.
I'm passing on positive messages to Elsa, and will point her to the full discussion on her return to shore. It will definitely be an interesting
post-match analysis, but for now we're focusing on the immediate concerns.
Very keen to hear and take on board all opinions, but please be aware that all decisions Elsa has made have been based on her evaluation of the
conditions she's faced, which have been varied and often harsh, and she's been pushing herself incredibly hard.
Constructive comments, whether supportive or critical, are appreciated - but please phrase them bearing in mind that Elsa will be reading and
responding at some point, and that she's attempted this challenge with bravery and lots of training and support!
Thanks again all,
Steve
Elsa's fiancée and Campaign Manager
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bullox
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Thanks BajaBuddha, she'll love that!
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Is she on course for Isla Cedros ?
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bajabuddha
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Señor Bullox;
Dunno how her Español is, but here's a little idioma that may brighten her day:
"Quien tienes los juevos? .... LA GALLINA TIENES!"
Translation: "Who has the eggs? The Chicken does!".... well, kinda means that. 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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RSailor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
....let's save the post-analysis until she's onshore at least--REALLY!!
| Quote: | I disagree. In the old days people went off on adventure and did not blog about it daily. Now that adventurers are compelled to write daily blog
entries, I think continuous arm chair quarter backing and game analysis is not only expected but is demanded! Analyze away!
And if the rower does not want ongoing critique, then rower can quit blogging about it. |
The blogging is part of the commercial aspect of this enterprise. The dream may have been Elsa's, but the execution is a business venture.
The real time analysis has been done to in an attempt to save a rower. Elsa's position right now is actually very dangerous. This would not be
apparent to someone who is not familiar with the California current and the prevailing winds off of Baja. She is at very high risk of being blown off
of the coast and back out to sea, and she does not have the resources to survive a crossing, that is all. It is not a matter of courage or stamina.
Apparently, the organizers boat is in transit from San Diego today. |
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micah202
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quote...RSailor...''
The blogging is part of the commercial aspect of this enterprise. The dream may have been Elsa's, but the execution is a business venture.
The real time analysis has been done to in an attempt to save a rower. Elsa's position right now is actually very dangerous. This would not be
apparent to someone who is not familiar with the California current and the prevailing winds off of Baja. She is at very high risk of being blown off
of the coast and back out to sea, and she does not have the resources to survive a crossing, that is all. It is not a matter of courage or stamina.
Apparently, the organizers boat is in transit from San Diego today.''
.....it sounds to be hopeful news if the organizer's got a boat going her way......if anyone the organizer's about the only 'commercial
interest' going, but word was that they weren't all that 'together'
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[Edited on 7-27-2014 by micah202]
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Ateo
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Bullox: Baja Nomads can be a tough crowd. Don't pay attention to the negative comments. They always come.......
Elsa sounds like one tough lady. Kudos to her for getting out there and doing something.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
.....it sounds to be hopeful news if the organizer's got a boat going her way......if anyone the organizer's about the only 'commercial
interest' going, but word was that they weren't all that 'together'
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May they, or someone be successful in reaching her and bringing her safely to shore!! Keeping very hopeful thoughts.
After that, it will be interesting to hear more about the organizers as it does sound like maybe, as you say, they were not all that together. But
again, first her safety is at the forefront!
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bullox
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Thanks Ateo, no worries. Elsa's doing something visible and I guess that comes with the expectation of free comment! No problem with the armchair
analysis, but will note that an armchair is a much different perspective to a rowing seat 
With regards to the 'commercial' aspect - there really is none from our point of view. Elsa and I have taken time out of our day jobs for her to do
this, have made a number of sacrifices, financial and personal, and neither of us are taking any pay or profit. Elsa's doing this for the challenge
and the experience, and also supporting several great charities. All sponsorship and donations go towards core costs and the charities. If it's
possible to continue to share her experiences in a personally sustainable way then I'm sure Elsa would love to, but there's much simpler ways to make
one's fortune!
Elsa's blogging to share her experiences with friends and supporters who want to know what's going on, and to record her adventure for herself. I hope
people have found her posts interesting! I bet that people would have loved to read about adventures 'in the old days', but adventurers weren't
blessed with the advantage of satphones and the web!
Thanks again all,
Steve
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She is a real life heroine for even attempting this major feat!
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Senor Bullox, Is she on course for Isla Cedros ? How is she navigating ?
Thanks, Lionel
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bullox
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Course and landing TBC, still dependent on wind and current. She had some rough weather over the last few days so has been on sea anchor. Will post
details as soon as they're a bit firmer - sorry for lack of detail at present!
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how did you find out the organizer's boat is on it's way? I talked to Steve a couple hours ago and it hadnt been confirmed yet.
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BajaRat
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Bullox, How experienced is she in open water navigation ?
Some others have made mention of the California Current and the strong prevailing winds along this stretch,they are not to be taken lightly. For all
intents and purposes as she experienced trying to row back to Isla Guadalupe she needs to use the aforementioned because she can't beat them.
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RSailor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
how did you find out the organizer's boat is on it's way? I talked to Steve a couple hours ago and it hadnt been confirmed yet.
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Try this:
sailing-to-pick-up-elsa-hammond
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redmesa
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Sounds like this boat can do the job.
The boat is named Cloud Nine. She's a 57' Bowman Ketch that has rounded the world three times on expeditions and one of the first to completed the
North West Passage while Roger Swanson was her captain. "Rare is the sailing resume that boasts 217,928 miles, three circumnavigations, multiple
voyages through the Arctic and Antarctic and the first east-west crossing of the Northwest Passage by an American-flagged sailboat. Pretty impressive
for a Midwestern-born pig farmer-cum-electrical engineer-cum-entrepreneur, but no one ever accused Roger Swanson, of Dunnell, Minnesota, of
mediocrity. Swanson, who sadly passed away at the age of 81 on December 25, 2012 after a battle with cancer." Sailmagazine.com
She's beautiful and tough!
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