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CaboMagic
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Checking back in to say try this on 'positively benefits from tourism' .. Asuncion may not "depend" on tourism, but you certainly do benefit! why
else keep expanding, adding on services and rentals - eh?
Amiga, you know I wish you all the best - I admit that I do call people on stuff.
This is still a very interesting subject and discussion.
durrellrobert your front yard and view are stunning!
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shari
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so do I Lori...which is why I corrected your statement that our village depends on tourism. Of course we benefit and we expand to prepare for the
future which unfortunately may bring the downfall of the abalone fishery...so we have a back up! Have a great day all.
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CaboMagic
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Shari dear - that's kind of a --- what shall we call it? Of course you do depend on tourism, the town of Asuncion does not.
Outta here ....
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maryellen50
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If you read the Spanish news Playas de Tijuana is not so safe as many expats continually report. There have been several beheadings in the past year
as the cartels are fighting for that territory just as in the rest of the Baja Norte area. You don't mention the beach which is one of the most
polluted in Mexico. I've never understood why expats think that area is so great esp. now with the increased crime.
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SlyOnce
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I believe Playas is safe. There have been some crimes, most notable was the Anastasia case, which was not cartel related. All of TJ has suffered a
gang war in 2015 as various groups fight for the "plaza". While there is a small chance you may become collateral damage in some gang hit, the
chances are greatly reduced if you are not buying/selling drugs or hanging out in the Zona Norte or two or three other eastern colonias (which have
nothing to do with Playas). Yes, 2 heads were dumped along our road this year from violence in other parts of the city.
The beach has lifeguards and they sample the water. Most of the dirty water from the TJ river does not impact our beach.
I like it, however I do plan to explore Mulege to Los Barilles further.
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Pescador
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This is a great line of posting and proves that one man's paradise is another man's hell. When I was looking for a place to plant my feet I visited
as many places on the peninsula as I could looking for the place that met my individual requirements. My favorite place in the whole peninsula was
Bahia de los Muertos and I thought I would love to build a house there but then the guy from the Giggling Marlin restaurant in cabo and another
investor bought up a large tract and proceeded to screw up my paradise, while trying to turn it into their version of something. I loved Loreto but
as Loreto Bay started developing everything, the flavor of the town changed into something that was unacceptable to me. I spent a lot of time in Los
Barilles which a lot of people love but it had the feel of a miniature Orange County California so I knew that would not work. We really liked La
Bocana but wanted somewhere that the fishing was good for more of the year. We looked at Asuncion but got worried that it was a large collection of
expatriates according to what we saw Shari posting (which we found out later was a really nice place to be and had a good mix). And ended up in the
Santa Rosalia, Mulege, San Bruno, Punta Chivato area. That turned into a good choice for us at that stage in our life, but when my late wife
developed Lung Cancer, we quickly found out that it was paradise without medical facilities or treatment. So what is good when you are younger and
healthy may not be so good as you get a little older. And, last time I checked, we keep getting older.
This summer, I got a little tired of the heat and rented a Condo in Rosarito Beach. So far I love being here, the weather is cool, there are
wonderful new and exciting restaurants, it is very close to the border to bop across and go to the Dr. or whatever, and I don't have to live in
Southern California.
So, I guess it is a highly individualistic pursuit but the thing that sticks in my memory the best, is rent a place for awhile and see how it works
for you and then if everything or most everything is good, go ahead and sink some roots.
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durrelllrobert
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Thank's. I designed and laid it out but my bi-weekly gardener planted it, mainly from plant starts from his other clients, and maintains it.
Bob Durrell
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BajaRat
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Quote: Originally posted by CaboMagic  | Shari dear - that's kind of a --- what shall we call it? Of course you do depend on tourism, the town of Asuncion does not.
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Dear Cabo Magic,
Your a Real classless act, with key board nerve. If you ever make to BA while we're in town please don't stop by to say hi.
Thanks, Lionel
Love what you said Terry about the lists.
OP What difference does it make about what I like, you never shared anything about yourself or your needs......... 
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bajaspuds
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Interesting thread, for all the wrong reasons.
Even casual readers here come to realize BA is heavily overhyped. But who cares? Businesses advertize, often exaggerating facts. That is not news.
Still, why bash someone who calls B.S.?
Try a little tolerance & never turn your welcome mat upside down ...
Your karma will thank you for it.
'People'll tell you where they've gone,
They'll tell you where to go,
But till you get there yourself, you'll never really know.
Where some have found their paradise,
Other's just come to harm ...'
-- "Amelia," Joni Mitchell
Have fun exploring.
... dripping w/ chubasco sauce
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David K
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Bahia Asuncion gets a lot of talk here because it has an English speaking resident who shares with us about her town. Before Shari joined Baja Nomad,
there was almost no discussion from the place.
It's prime appeal is to the sport fisherman... as is many of Baja's destinations. That it is way off the the main route a travel (Hwy. 1) giving it
some isolation from the tourist mobs (when there was such a thing) is appealing to many.
Now, it is reached by paved road, has more than one restaurant, and is growing as do other locations with the coming of pavement. The climate is near
perfect there, the ocean views are stunning, most the people seem pleasant and receptive (one Nomad had his family's vacation home/RV burned to the
ground), but fishing is still the prime draw for most visitors and remains the town's source of income.
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On the other coast of Baja, is Bahia de los Angeles. This was originally a mining region (gold, silver, copper) and turtles were the primary fishing
resource and remained a major commercial business here until that industry was banned. After World War II, one enterprising man (Antero Diaz) began a
sportfishing business there and built cabins at the end of the airstrip, next to the beach. Sport fishing was the major draw (along with his wife's
delicious turtle steak dinners) to the 1980's. By then pavement had arrived, a second hotel was started, and naturalists and scuba divers came for
more than fishing. Being closer to the border probably helps with business, but the island filled bay is a major attraction, 40 miles east of Hwy. 1.
L.A. Bay has changed from being a commercial fishing town to one more dependant on tourism. When tourism is down (bad economy or summer heat), the
town looks dead. This is not true of Bahia Asuncion.
Red Arrow: Bahia Asuncion
Blue Arrow Bahia de los Angeles
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motoged
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CM,
I haven't noticed you adding your thoughts about "where and why" regarding folks' location preferences.
Perhaps you might share your opinions/thoughts about that in-between sniping at another other poster with thinly veiled personal attacks. Shari is
out-front about herself on Nomads, pretty much identifying herself, and not hiding behind a business name as some do.
So.....I am calling you on "your" stuff. 
Don't believe everything you think....
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CaboMagic
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Actually motoged I did already - u may have missed my first response.
"Everyone certainly has their needs to consider - personal, financial, spiritual, medical - Dennis, Buddha, Vgabndo, rts551, Alm, Howard, Mula,
bledito, bajaguy, BajaBlanca - anyone - - what am I leaving out?.
I'm often asked about moving to Cabo by customers. Its a difficult challenge for me to toe the line between candor without wishing to dampen the
enthusiasm of their dreams.
Of course Bahia Asuncion is dependent on tourism - that is a bit of a disingenuous statement - how else could you possibly have built all that you
have ? The campground, restaurant, bed & breakfast, more pangas all required dinero to purchase, which isn't farmed from the land or the sea. Just
sayin'.
I wish everyone to find their place, where they get to live the life they dream of, because I still like to believe that dreams can, and do, come
true.
This is an interesting discussion."
I cannot comment on areas I've not lived in.
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CaboMagic
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PS I'm pretty sure Shari knows my ribbing is just that - ribbing. But by the looks of all the posters defending her, a nerve has been struck ..
There is not one area in all of Baja - north south or central - that does not benefit from tourism. I stand by my original statement, which was not
said with disrespect.
Tourism does not necessarily have to mean great crowds or hordes of visitors - I'm using the term to signify money spent by those that do not live
there, wherever 'there' is.
Every person reading and/or posting on this board has some element of 'dog-in-the-fight' ...
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shari
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hey Magic...I thought you were out of here? hahaha....what I do have a problem with is people commenting on a place they have never been. Here is a
review that was just posted on Trip Advisor about our place that demonstrates my point. DK was right that it may seem like Asuncion has alot of
tourism because I post here about the fun we have...but I have never said that it was a tourism mecca by any means....here is the review!
"If you want to go somewhere where there are few or no other tourists, this is the place in Baja. Setting is exceptional, right on the coast with
views in all directions. Accommodations are a bit on the rustic side, but that's the price you pay to get away from the tourist areas. If we had more
time, I would have been content to sit on the patio all day with a good book, happy to know that we were the only visitors to this lovely town. Bahia
Asuncion is by no measure a tourist destination; rather the town lives on abalone harvesting and is quite prosperous. We saw no signs of crime or
poverty. Shari is so knowledgeable about California Gray Whales and has a real passion for these wonderful animals, in addition to being a great
hostess. Now that the road is paved all the way from hwy 1, I would expect more visitors. Go soon, before the word gets out."
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CaboMagic
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hey Shari - hahaha amiga ...
Trip Advisor reviews will not only bring throngs of visitors, they will spend money too - but no worries, cause visitors are not tourists, and they
will not be spending any of their money ... seriously, I/we do wish you well .. plz don't tell me "visitors" that come and go fishing, eat at
restaurants, make donations are not tourists 
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bajafam
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As a former "tourist" of Bahia Asuncion, and now a property owner there....I am going to step in to defend my amiga and my pueblo. We have had our
share of ups and downs, and to be honest, probably more than anyone else's share of downs on this board when it comes to property ownership...but
there is still no where else in Baja I would rather call home.
The first time we drove into Asuncion, we were entranced. There was just this magical feeling about the place. It grabbed a hold of our hearts and
held tight. Every person on the street that day waved to us, smiling, genuine and authentic, not just an absentminded wave and smile like you may give
that crazy old guy on the corner....it felt like we stepped into a different reality. It's been 5 years since we bought our property, and in those
five years, we've run a gamut of emotions and experiences. We've lost a dear friend....and a home....and not even those tragedies would keep me away
from our Baja corazon.
I think, when it comes to Baja, you go with your deepest guttural instinct. If it feels good, do it. If it tastes fine, drink. Before we ventured to
Asuncion, living in Baja was a dream, and I never gave it more than a fleeting thought. Once we found THE spot, it's all I think about. I cannot wait
until my family can settle there permanently. There have been MANY bumps in the road (literally and figuratively) but I wouldn't change them. Not for
anything.
Far North....my best advice (and this is coming from someone that loves Baja so much I had a baby here  ) is to find the place that lights your soul on fire. The place that you can hardly bear to leave. The place that you
think of when you are away, that is the backdrop to your dreams, both awake and asleep. The place you cannot imagine yourself without. THAT is where
you should live. for me, THAT is Bahia Asuncion.
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Bajafam
very well said I like it
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David K
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Ditto!
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bajafam
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
Now, it is reached by paved road, has more than one restaurant, and is growing as do other locations with the coming of pavement. The climate is near
perfect there, the ocean views are stunning, most the people seem pleasant and receptive (one Nomad had his family's vacation home/RV burned
to the ground), but fishing is still the prime draw for most visitors and remains the town's source of income.
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FTR, this is us. Seems a bit odd to bring it up in this context, but yes, that happened. It changed the way I felt about Baja as a whole, and Bahia
Asuncion in particular, for about 25 minutes. It was the universe telling me to be grateful....to really look at how fortunate I am to be alive, and
to have a Baja place to call home (and no, it wasn't a vacation home, DK, it was our jumping off point to establishing our permanent home, but thank
you)....things happen that are outside of our control. It's what we do with those things that makes or breaks us.
[Edited on 8-21-2015 by bajafam]
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chuckie
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Reading this, I wonder if some of the people commenting (The David, Cabo Magic, Spuds) Have EVER been to BA? I have been, a number of times. The
village is certainly dependent on the Co-op but I NEVER noticed hoards of gringos lined up for Pangas, nor any big push in the village to promote
same. Over hyped? I don't think so! Places like CABO (South Newport Beach) are overhyped and over priced. Ascuncion is what it is.....I'll go
back.....
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