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[*] posted on 7-15-2016 at 08:11 PM


Very nice to see you back down south again. Hope one day to run into you down there.

Thanks for a great report David. Much appreciated!

Loreto - San Juanico - Huntington Beach

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[*] posted on 7-15-2016 at 11:36 PM


De nada Enrique. Donde vives tu?



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[*] posted on 7-16-2016 at 10:55 AM


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I really like the way you lay it out, David. Great post. I've got a pop-up camper on the back of my Tacoma. Do you think I would be OK going to Shell Island with it? Good tires. 4WD.


Yes, weight is not an issue with deflated tires. 10-20 psi range. Start at 20, if the truck struggles or wants to dig into the sand, do not spin the tires, just stop and let out more air. You will find the "sweet spot" and float.

I knew a family from Vista, CA who drove full-sized motorhomes onto the beach at Shell Island... 2WD motorhomes... and no problem using the largest tires that would fit and deflating. I ran into them at Sunrise Cafe in Vista a couple years back (Bob and Pat Hale) and it was fun talking about their days camping on the island since the 70s. Before the new highway was built in '82, an arroyo was used to reach the island from 5 miles west where the old Puertecitos road was.

Here is my map from 1980:



Here is the map I drew 2 years later with the new highway (unpaved):





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[*] posted on 7-16-2016 at 03:09 PM


David, thank you. I'm putting your maps on my IPad and IPhone...
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[*] posted on 7-16-2016 at 04:04 PM


LOL... thanks, but those are ancient now! Most of the dirt roads are still there, however!

Here are a few more I drew of the region...











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[*] posted on 7-16-2016 at 08:11 PM


Awesome post David. I wish I could have joined you for the day at Shell Island while we were down at EDR. Will have to have a coffee in SM when we are in the area. Thanks for the great photos.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2016 at 08:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by steekers  
Awesome post David. I wish I could have joined you for the day at Shell Island while we were down at EDR. Will have to have a coffee in SM when we are in the area. Thanks for the great photos.


De nada Michael!

Here's a photo of "steekers" (tall guy) when I introduced him to Baja racing and cartoon legend, Dave Deal (with beard) a few years ago in Vista, CA (Sunrise Cafe).





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[*] posted on 7-17-2016 at 08:36 AM


David--------On your hand-drawn map which is the last map shown above, you show the 17+ mile drive from the Sulfur Mine to Matomi wash------has anybody driven that stretch recently and if so is it a rewarding and scenic drive? (It is the ONLY road on your map that I have never driven over.)
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Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
David--------On your hand-drawn map which is the last map shown above, you show the 17+ mile drive from the Sulfur Mine to Matomi wash------has anybody driven that stretch recently and if so is it a rewarding and scenic drive? (It is the ONLY road on your map that I have never driven over.)


Hi Barry, great question!
I got interested in that road because Howard Gulick thought enough of it to include it, but never mentioned it in his Lower California Guidebook...


1962 Edition Lower California Guidebook

I call it the Llanos San Fermin road, after the name of that valley (or plain).



I have driven over it once... was traveling along with Nomad Gila Oro (Max) and his wife who both were in a Suzuki... May 2003:



Max follows me up Arroyo Matomi...
The Geo Tracker does fine.



Looking like layers in a cake, Matomi has many interesting geologic features!



The lower Matomi canyon.... just one of so many great places to explore in Baja!



Our lunch break in the middle of the Llanos (Plains) of San Fermin.
Just minutes after this photo was taken, a dust devil hit us, lifted my chair (in photo)
and set it down (to the left of the picture) on top of Max's hat!
GPS here: 30°34.23'/ 114°52.23' (NAD27), elev. 1,144'.

That's all I have but I do remember the road passed a capped wellhead and there was quite a cluster of bees on it. Apparently, they got plenty of water crawling through a gap in the cap. It was a pretty slow road, as SCORE has used it a few times for the San Felipe 250 and that seems to create whoop-d-do's.

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Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
David--------On your hand-drawn map which is the last map shown above, you show the 17+ mile drive from the Sulfur Mine to Matomi wash------has anybody driven that stretch recently and if so is it a rewarding and scenic drive? (It is the ONLY road on your map that I have never driven over.)


I drove it in march. first half was a little slow.. rocky .......the middle was faster with medium size whoops..... the last was fast and fun. less than an hour to matomi. did not use 4 wheel drive.
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Thanks, guys, I appreciate the info.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2016 at 11:40 AM


It's just a big valley back in there... only the capped well was of interest to me (no palms, petroglyphs, mines, or missions)!



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[*] posted on 7-17-2016 at 01:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It's just a big valley back in there... only the capped well was of interest to me (no palms, petroglyphs, mines, or missions)!


Looked like lots of nice cactus, though. I like cactus.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2016 at 04:08 PM


Ocotillos and a few cardón is all I recall... but that counts!

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[*] posted on 5-23-2020 at 12:04 PM


Update... I just went through the pages and repaired all the places where degree symbols ° and Spanish letters ñ, í, é, ó were switched to little black diamonds with a question mark inside. That happens when Doug does some site updates to Nomad.

On another note, just realized that this July 2016 trip was the last time Baja Angel has been to Baja with just me... We went with her son's family over Memorial Day 2017... but we were so crowded (5 people, one is a child car seat) plus Josh was hit by a sting ray, it was not the best of trips.




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Quote: Originally posted by John M  
David, what was the result of the archaeological dig in 2011?

John M


Hi again, John!

Here is Dr. Ritter's paper on the Gonzaga Bay warehouse ruin dig:

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/488b16_d6a1399d09974ddd9dd3b0...




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