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bent-rim
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We always close gates we open and leave open gates open. I often wonder if the open gates should be closed in case they were left open by a less
courteous off roader. Seems to be less gates the further south you go.
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TMW
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First of all much of the Mojave desert is off limits to any racing. It has to be on a OHV area. There is racing on those areas and there are several
promoters that race there but they have to jump thru many hoops to do so. That's one of the reason SCORE is not doing a race near El Centro. It is a
big reason not many non-race related people come out to watch their races. BITD does NV races and they have a lot of restrictions put on them. Most
U.S. races are 50-100 mile loops. BITD does have the Vegas to Reno race which is about 500 miles.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  |
First of all much of the Mojave desert is off limits to any racing. It has to be on a OHV area. There is racing on those areas and there are several
promoters that race there but they have to jump thru many hoops to do so. That's one of the reason SCORE is not doing a race near El Centro. It is a
big reason not many non-race related people come out to watch their races. BITD does NV races and they have a lot of restrictions put on them. Most
U.S. races are 50-100 mile loops. BITD does have the Vegas to Reno race which is about 500 miles. |
Food for thought. Environmental racism is where one group won't tolerate negative behavior or pollution in their own backyard, so they move their
behavior and pollution to another groups backyard. (In the big picture it is fact that Mexico allows almost any gringo to enter their country to
recreate, but the USA will let only a relatively few enter the USA to recreate.)
Anywho, I am glad some of you off-roaders are polite and ask permission first before crossing a persons land. If only the majority of gringos were so
polite,... I am afraid the majority are uncouth heathens with scraped knuckles. 
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bajatrailrider
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This thread is for off road people, I live here so Im the nice folks of Baja. I love
off road in Baja,who in the hell are you. So your here to tell me and others that live and here race here. Go to Mojave please move on. Why would you
mess with the nice forks that off road in Baja? Ok dont answer be better that way. 
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bajatrailrider
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by TMW |
First of all much of the Mojave desert is off limits to any racing. It has to be on a OHV area. There is racing on those areas and there are several
promoters that race there but they have to jump thru many hoops to do so. That's one of the reason SCORE is not doing a race near El Centro. It is a
big reason not many non-race related people come out to watch their races. BITD does NV races and they have a lot of restrictions put on them. Most
U.S. races are 50-100 mile loops. BITD does have the Vegas to Reno race which is about 500 miles. |
Food for thought. Environmental racism is where one group won't tolerate negative behavior or pollution in their own backyard, so they move their
behavior and pollution to another groups backyard. (In the big picture it is fact that Mexico allows almost any gringo to enter their country to
recreate, but the USA will let only a relatively few enter the USA to recreate.)
Anywho, I am glad some of you off-roaders are polite and ask permission first before crossing a persons land. If only the majority of gringos were so
polite,... I am afraid the majority are uncouth heathens with scraped knuckles.
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WARNING WARNING DON'T ANYBODY LISTEN TO THIS B.S
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David K
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Goat: the sport of off road racing was born in Baja California and exported to the U.S. and rest of the world. It began with the first organized point
to point run down the peninsula in 1967. Off road racing is in reality dirt road racing and may include some paved roads even.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Goat: the sport of off road racing was born in Baja California and exported to the U.S. and rest of the world. It began with the first organized point
to point run down the peninsula in 1967. Off road racing is in reality dirt road racing and may include some paved roads even.
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That's pretty funny David...
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | the sport of off road racing was born in Baja California and exported to the U.S. and rest of the world. It began with the first organized point to
point run down the peninsula in 1967. |
Really?
I suspect people raced off-road long before 1967, and elsewhere than Baja.
[Edited on 8-31-2016 by mtgoat666]
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | the sport of off road racing was born in Baja California and exported to the U.S. and rest of the world. It began with the first organized point to
point run down the peninsula in 1967. |
Really?
I suspect people raced off-road long before 1967, and elsewhere than Baja.
[Edited on 8-31-2016 by mtgoat666] |
Yes, really... Even Google knows, I just looked:
Desert racing
Desert racing began in the early 20th century. An early racing sanctioning body in North America was the National Off-Road Racing Association (NORRA).
The body was formed in 1967 by Ed Pearlman. The first event was a race across the Mexican desert, south-eastwards through most of the length of Baja
California, originally from Ensenada to La Paz. The event was first called the Mexican 1000, and it later became known as the Baja 1000. The event is
now sanctioned by SCORE International.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | the sport of off road racing was born in Baja California and exported to the U.S. and rest of the world. It began with the first organized point to
point run down the peninsula in 1967. |
Really?
I suspect people raced off-road long before 1967, and elsewhere than Baja.
[Edited on 8-31-2016 by mtgoat666] |
Yes, really... Even Google knows, I just looked:
Desert racing
Desert racing began in the early 20th century. An early racing sanctioning body in North America was the National Off-Road Racing Association (NORRA).
The body was formed in 1967 by Ed Pearlman. The first event was a race across the Mexican desert, south-eastwards through most of the length of Baja
California, originally from Ensenada to La Paz. The event was first called the Mexican 1000, and it later became known as the Baja 1000. The event is
now sanctioned by SCORE International. |
Desert racing and off-road are 2 different things. People were racing off-road way before NORRA.
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chuckie
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What bullshiot, as usual from the king of BS...
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David K
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Reading 101...
Yes, small races at Riverside, sand drags at Oceanside and Pismo, and other little events were beginning here and there.
NORRA organized the first long distance, point to point race, in Baja California... as I said and Wiki confirmed.
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chuckie
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Barstow Vegas 1964...Wiki also says, selective quoter , that off road racing began in California in the 1920's...
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TMW
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Were there any paved roads in 1920?
Barstow to Vegas, I raced the last one in 1989. It was shut down because of the desert tortoise. Now they are building huge solar plants and moving or
killing the tortoise. But don't put a dirt bike on a dirt road no, no.
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chuckie
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Funny, I raced the first one! Rode a 500 Triumph twin I bought from Buck Smith. I wasn't very fast but I was LOUD..Guys like Buck Smith, JN Roberts,
Smoke Bomb Goetz, the Ekins boys...They were FAST...What fun What fun...
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rts551
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Motorcycle off-road racing was popular in the 30-40's. David just can not stand to be corrected.
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willardguy
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david google and wiki....how can you argue with that?
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Bajahowodd
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I think that both off-road racers and Donald Trump should leave Mexico alone.
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chuckie
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Well, Wodd? I don't care what you think...You aren't an off roader, and I doubt you vote...So....
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Reading 101...
Yes, small races at Riverside, sand drags at Oceanside and Pismo, and other little events were beginning here and there.
NORRA organized the first long distance, point to point race, in Baja California... as I said and Wiki confirmed. |
Reading 102
Wikipedia is not a credible source. Wiki entries are written by kids and the unemployed, and peer reviewed by kids and the unemplyed.
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