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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 08:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

The USA economy depends on immigrants. No immigrants, the USA economy will collapse.


Nonsense. Industry needs more, bigger and better robots. If someone ever comes up with a machine that picks strawberries, [and it's only a matter of time] this issue will no longer exist.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 09:54 AM


Aaaa, the picture is on the Israeli/Egypt border not the USA border.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 10:28 AM


I still haven't found a news article independently corroborating my original posting, but this blog post basically repeats the same premise, citing the same three anonymous Congressmen. Toward the end of the article, the real motive appears - a recommendation that Mexican expats under threat move instead to Ecuador. Methinks we've been pranked.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 10:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  

Or a nice cliff side Punta Banda hostel for the oppressed middle east populace?


Christians only, please. We don' need no stinkin' Sharia Law here.

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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 10:33 AM


Just some observations as I've been watching this thread since its inception-

Why is it that there can never be a discussion about anything political without it gravitating to name calling and gutter talk?

Why are there always derogatory comments and personal attacks against either the poster or the subject of the conversation instead of educated debate on the issues?

I would love to discuss some issues with my opposite minded contributors but it seems that will never happen.

I would really like to understand their position in an air of mutual respect of differing ideas to see where common ground could be achieved.

Our country was founded on trying to find a compromise and moving forward. It was never designed or envisioned to be "my way or the highway".

So here's my proposition- is there anyone on the negative side of "the wall" that would be interested in a new thread of respectful discussion
of the issue, out in the open for all to see?

Anyone? Anyone?





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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 10:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
How about US Expats to Retaliate against Mexico

If the vast majority of Mexicos economy is either US expats, US tourism or US expatriated money from US to Mexico don't you think the greatest leverage lies within US and the economic decisions and demands US expats make? Mexico does not exist as an economy without US dollars and US dollar is the greatest influence. Stop your crying and comments like its not our country, when you are the economy and the current government doesnt function to serve you then you decide with your payments what you will pay for. At the moment corrupt Mexico serves only a few thieves and hurts the rest of all of us and must be stopped in order to bring a functional capitalist economy to benefit labor and business and support families not thieves.


Gunkid, shows typical thinking of many Americans, believing the world revolves around the USA, and them personally.

It's amazing a fake news story could get someone so worked up.







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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:02 AM




The new blind, blanket denial...."Fake News." I am so sick and tired of hearing it since it took over from "the party of NO."




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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:02 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  
Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi  

Or a nice cliff side Punta Banda hostel for the oppressed middle east populace?


Christians only, please. We don' need no stinkin' Sharia Law here.

[Edited on 2-5-2017 by DENNIS]


Sharia law is probably better than Trump law.
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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:05 AM


I have a working knowledge of Sharia Law ... Trump Law is something new to me ... Perhaps you can point it out in the: Declaration of Indepence, Constitution, Bill of Rights or in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)

How about doing a comparison and contrast of the two ... point by point :biggrin::biggrin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_law

Will say I find some aspects of Islamic Law on Finance a bit better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking_and_finance


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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
Aaaa, the picture is on the Israeli/Egypt border not the USA border.


Just more fake news from our residential tea-party member, and Trump fan, Lobsterman.

Yes, it's Israel's apartheid wall in that photo, and I believe that wall is only about 400 miles, not the 2000 mile wall that Trump campaigned on, and it remains to be seen what kind of wall is actually in the plans to be built, or if a wall from coast to coast could even be built, , because all the other Great Wall plans from 2006 on have failed or not lived up to expectations.

We also still don't know who is going to pay for the wall, and The US Congress has not yet allocated from 10 to 40 billion dollars of US tax payers money to start construction of the wall.

I'm also unaware of any US Government contract bidding and winning of those government contracts to any specific company, although if you follow the stock market, there are about 10 companies that received a bump because many are guessing those companies will benefit if a wall is built.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:24 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
How about doing a comparison and contrast of the two ... point by point :biggrin::biggrin:




Not me.

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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:39 AM


OK so I gotta ask again-
Why the derogatory adjectives JoeJustJoe?
" apartheid wall "
" residential tea-party member, and Trump fan,"
Why the derogatory inferences?
Why not just a straight educated respectful debate?

Still waiting on my above request- anyone? Anyone?




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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
OK so I gotta ask again-
Why the derogatory adjectives JoeJustJoe?
" apartheid wall "
" residential tea-party member, and Trump fan,"
Why the derogatory inferences?
Why not just a straight educated respectful debate?

Still waiting on my above request- anyone? Anyone?


Because the thread turned ugly, bigoted, and mean spirited.

That's usually my calling card.

Cliffy, hasn't you heard that you NEVER mix politics and religious?

It never goes well, and is one of the reasons there are any real political forums with a mix of both liberals or conservatives, it's either just liberal or conservative, but not both.

Cliffy, I find it interesting you call me out for mentioning Israel's apartheid wall, and the benign mention of a "tea-party member, which the person named would readily admit to. ( we go way back)

Where is your outrage over the posts bashing Mexico, and talking Sharia law.

I also expect this thread to be closed very soon, or moved to the OT where it belongs.








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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 11:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
OK so I gotta ask again-
Why the derogatory adjectives JoeJustJoe?
" apartheid wall "
" residential tea-party member, and Trump fan,"
Why the derogatory inferences?
Why not just a straight educated respectful debate?

Still waiting on my above request- anyone? Anyone?


The truth hurts you? Tough. You may call them "derogatory inferences." I call them accurate and precise descriptions.
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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:14 PM


OK I'll try it from where we sit right now-
goat - can you elaborate exactly what you are referring to in-
" illegitimate " We'll start there if that's OK
Please explain-

BTW, you don't even know where I stand but I'll move on from that.





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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:18 PM


Cliffy, it's called "Nomania". Usually only takes less than a full page to begin.
You might as well try to pi$$ out a forest fire. :no:




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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:30 PM


Joe-
Why am I "calling you out" by asking about the adjective you used?
I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, only to question why such an adjective would be used if it wasn't needed for the conversation. And, it does have derogatory inferences.

My contention again is why conversations need to go to the gutter?

Bashing Mexico? Sharia law? I don't bash Mexico. I like Mexico. I like Baja. Been going there for 35 years.

For a position? Sharia Law has no place in the USA legal system.

I am pretty founded in my thoughts on immigration. My Mother came here in 1924 from Norway. So yes I have a position on the subject but I try not to let that gravitate down to the gutter in conversations about it.

Still waiting for someone to take me up on my above proposal.





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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:37 PM


Elinvestig8r says President Trump is the best thing to happen to the United States of America. What I can't understand is why Jihad Joe became a US citizen if he hates the USA so much.



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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
Joe-
Why am I "calling you out" by asking about the adjective you used?
I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, only to question why such an adjective would be used if it wasn't needed for the conversation. And, it does have derogatory inferences.

My contention again is why conversations need to go to the gutter?

Bashing Mexico? Sharia law? I don't bash Mexico. I like Mexico. I like Baja. Been going there for 35 years.

For a position? Sharia Law has no place in the USA legal system.

I am pretty founded in my thoughts on immigration. My Mother came here in 1924 from Norway. So yes I have a position on the subject but I try not to let that gravitate down to the gutter in conversations about it.

Still waiting for someone to take me up on my above proposal.



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On the subject of the wall, taxpayers will foot the billions -- I do not have a solution to the immigration problem. Wish I did.




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[*] posted on 2-5-2017 at 12:56 PM


Do the people who keep arguing about religion, Mexico's politics, USA politics, Trump, or the wall...

Do they REALLY think they are going to change someone's mind?

All they are doing if defending their beliefs, whether we like it or not. For that reason if I smell post regarding one of the above topics, I either delete it, or just not read it.




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