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PaulW
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Yubay is just background garbage from the Trackmaker map. The only things that are valid are my WPs and the GPS track
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David K
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I figured...
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PaulW
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I have explained before.
This site has a 250k limit on attachments so I cannot post a GPX or KML file. So if you have trouble converting the USR file send me a U2U with your
email address and I will forward you the files.
BTW Trackmaker always gets conversions correct. The only thing Trackmaker cannot deal with is the Lowrance GEN3 format. And the other tools off the
web try to do the new format conversion, but many get it wrong. Trackmaker is for PCs only.
The USR attachment to this message is a repeat of the last one I posted.
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  | I have revised the GPS file to add the WPs that all the contributors provided. The basic track is unchanged.
Please use your tool to create a .KML or .GPX file from the attached .USR file. |
Attachment: Pioneeer Road WPs.usr (80kB)
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Ken Cooke
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My last trip into this area, my group traveled to Cocos, backtracked about 1 mile to a dirt road on the east side of the Gonzaga-Chapala road, then
entered a small canyon route that was spring fed, filled with standing water and mud. A virtual oasis in this desert region.
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ehall
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Probably Calamajue wash Ken.
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Enchanted Valley - right at the mission ruins
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David K
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Haven't you been in Calamajué Canyon, Ken???
2012:
It is safe for Jeeps!
2016:
Mission site is across from where the road drops to the arroyo and up on the opposite terrace.
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PaulW
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10+ years ago I drove thru the wash and the water came up to the top of my tires and the grass was up as high as the top of the hood. The last several
trips there was nothing more than puddles. When the racers drove thru they splashed a lot and they were unhappy because they got wet and it made for a
very cold drive after that. Now at normal speeds you probably wont even get mud on your tires and any kind of rig can pass the wash with no issues.
How times have changed.
David's pictures are still accurate for Jan 2018.
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Ken there is gold in the hills, you don't want to miss that.
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Pic of the kids flying through Calamajué Canyon.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | [quote=1128182&tid=89928&author=David K]
Haven't you been in Calamajué Canyon, Ken??? |
I have been through Calamajue Canyon in 2008 with 10 Jeeps and 3 Toyotas. It was a very good run. Mud was about 2 feet deep in places. Time is
short as I'm preparing for a week trip south of the border. Photos can follow, but they will have to wait.
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This is looking like a great alternate to Mission Santa Maria due to increased travel times and a finite amount of vacation time in February.
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David K
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I have been through Calamajue Canyon in 2008 with 10 Jeeps and 3 Toyotas. It was a very good run. Mud was about 2 feet deep in places. Time is
short as I'm preparing for a week trip south of the border. Photos can follow, but they will have to wait.
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I was in the canyon in 2016 and 2012 (as well as many other times back to 1967). Both times were very easy to drive but even less water in 2016 than
2012, which only had one deep puddle. Let me know if you want photos. Keep in mind, the 1766-1767 Jesuit mission site is up on the ledge, directly
across from where the road drops into the arroyo at the gold mill ruins (which require you park and look over the edge of the cliff to see). So much
history there you can easily miss if you are not informed.
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PaulW
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Pioneer mine road again
Feb 1 Pioneer road drive
From the new H5 Coco turn at k180 we turned off the new H5 onto the old H5 graded road then took a turn off Old H5 to the north east direction to get
to the Pioneer mine road. The only thing new on the Pioneer track is we took the path to the newest digs and found a marker dated 1990. This west
loop has some route finding and one difficult place which required stacking rocks.
The attached KML file has more details. Zoom way in to see the details
Attachment: coco exit, pioneer enter.kml (149kB)
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | Feb 1 Pioneer road drive
From the new H5 Coco turn at k180 we turned off the new H5 onto the old H5 graded road then took a turn off Old H5 to the north east direction to get
to the Pioneer mine road. The only thing new on the Pioneer track is we took the path to the newest digs and found a marker dated 1990. This west
loop has some route finding and one difficult place which required stacking rocks.
The attached KML file has more details. Zoom way in to see the details
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Thank you for the update PaulW!
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | Feb 1 Pioneer road drive
From the new H5 Coco turn at k180 we turned off the new H5 onto the old H5 graded road then took a turn off Old H5 to the north east direction to get
to the Pioneer mine road. The only thing new on the Pioneer track is we took the path to the newest digs and found a marker dated 1990. This west
loop has some route finding and one difficult place which required stacking rocks.
The attached KML file has more details. Zoom way in to see the details
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On my PC and just looked at your track, thanks. Your pin for Km. 180 is 1/2 km south of your pin for the old Hwy. 5 route (Coco's north road). Is that
correct?
Did you take photos of the Pioneer Mine or any others on this trip? I would like to see them, thanks!
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PaulW
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Pioneer west loop
The Pioneer west loop had us out of our rigs many times dealing with where to drive and how to find the road. Not much to see because the digs are on
the left up the hill side with no roads. I only got one image at 29 37 25.380, -114 16 54.48 - date 23 Jan 1990
Here is an image of the north exit New H5 to Old H5. We were driving northbound when the track was created.
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We tried to ride the Pioneer Mine trail in 2018. Made it a couple miles. Pretty rocky, but not too bad.
My kid's bike over heated. Turns out there was a problem with the radiator. So we turned around.
One of the only trails in Baja that I feel defeated us. Want to have another run at it this year.
[Edited on 2-6-2020 by JZ]
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PaulW
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Do it from the south for an easier trip. Down hill is good for a hot bike.
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Me and a few guys rode up it last weekend, very rocky for sure which caught us a bit by surprise, thankfully all riders were experienced enough to
make it through without incident. I had never even heard of it before so funny to see two threads about it here today.
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