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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 10:39 AM


Went through Northbound on 9/26, all smiles, courteous and friendly, no actual inspection didn't take the car out of Drive. In fact no actual inspections all the way from Loreto to the border.



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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 12:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Marc  
Sorry to hear. We went through going and coming in April/May and were waved through. Thought all this was done with.

[Edited on 9-28-2019 by Marc]


It IS done with but pops up every now and then when bad apples rotate through. If email writing does any good, those punks will be rotated somewhere else.

Let's be clear. These guys aren't your friends. Smile and yuck it up if it makes you feel good. The young soldiers are doing a job but I see them as opportunists. They probably think there's no real harm to lifting a pocket knife in the glove compartment, or any number of harmless things.

Fine.

I'm inconvenience at these checkpoints but that's the game. I want to get through without a lot of bullshlt. I don't like punks and bad apples rummaging through my gear.

I'm watching everything they do, I leave nothing they can pocket. I'm courteous and respectful and expect that returned.

I ID a bad apple around my car I'm stopping the inspection and asking for the Commandante. Someone plants mota in my vehicle they won't be getting off easy.




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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 12:34 PM


Lee, you sound like Joe Friday! :biggrin:

We both were those "young punks" at one time, going to a country that didn't understand us and trying to do our job, whatever that was. The vast majority of us were polite and respectful but we also had some bad apples that tarnished our purpose and uniform.

I don't see this as any different, like us, kids far away from home for the first time, missing our friends and mamas cooking and doing what they were told to do.

Bad apples everywhere.

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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 12:40 PM


I noticed a lot of the Militar wearing GoPro cameras when I came through in August. Cabo San Lucas to Tecate..
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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 02:20 PM


Goyo

Thanks for sharing. That situation would upset me so much. We have Mexican license plates on all our cars since we are now Mexican citizens, and somehow, it seems to help.

When we do go thru the checkpoints, if there is a surfer in front of us, they seem to take longer inspecting their vehicle...maybe just my impression since we are quickly given a "gracias, tenga buen dia."

The fake mota makes my blood boil! Cruel and inconsiderate and WRONG.





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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 02:27 PM


I went through a through a temporary check point set up near Ciudad Constitucion in 2016. They were only checking Mexican plated vehicles! I don't know what that was about, but the couple of us gringos in the line were almost given a 'hurry up' as we were waved through.

(edit) Come to think of it, a similar thing happened south of La Paz in 2014.

[Edited on 9-28-2019 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 9-28-2019 at 03:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Maybe chant "Eh Putos" at the soldiers? Paco Facullo says it's just a harmless chant in good humor. I don't know why they would take offense.

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[*] posted on 9-29-2019 at 08:02 PM


I'd like to follow-up a bit. I received delivery failure notices from two of the four intended recipients. The following must be dead email address:
quejas@sectur.gob.mx
turismo@gbcs.gob.mx

If I receive replies from the remaining two recipients, I'll let you all know.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2019 at 08:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Goyo  
I'd like to follow-up a bit. I received delivery failure notices from two of the four intended recipients. The following must be dead email address:
quejas@sectur.gob.mx
turismo@gbcs.gob.mx

If I receive replies from the remaining two recipients, I'll let you all know.


try turismo@bcs.gob.mx (no "g")

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[*] posted on 9-29-2019 at 08:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by Marc  
Sorry to hear. We went through going and coming in April/May and were waved through. Thought all this was done with.

[Edited on 9-28-2019 by Marc]


It IS done with but pops up every now and then when bad apples rotate through. If email writing does any good, those punks will be rotated somewhere else.

Let's be clear. These guys aren't your friends. Smile and yuck it up if it makes you feel good. The young soldiers are doing a job but I see them as opportunists. They probably think there's no real harm to lifting a pocket knife in the glove compartment, or any number of harmless things.

Fine.

I'm inconvenience at these checkpoints but that's the game. I want to get through without a lot of bullshlt. I don't like punks and bad apples rummaging through my gear.

I'm watching everything they do, I leave nothing they can pocket. I'm courteous and respectful and expect that returned.

I ID a bad apple around my car I'm stopping the inspection and asking for the Commandante. Someone plants mota in my vehicle they won't be getting off easy.


The young soldiers grew up poor, and the military does not pay them much.
Retired gringos, middle class surfers, gringos with massive trucks and trailers full of toys are richly rich in comparison to the soldiers barely out of poverty. Of course they steal, you would too if you were in poverty in Mexico.
Inequality breeds animosity, poverty with lack of opportunity breeds crime, not surprising that soldiers resort to extorting money from what they see to be clueless and unconnected tourists.




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[*] posted on 9-29-2019 at 08:51 PM


Poverty does not make one a criminal. It is ideology like yours that give ammunition to justify crime.



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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 05:38 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Poverty does not make one a criminal. It is ideology like yours that give ammunition to justify crime.


Well said!

Goatman, the hundreds of experiences of traveling over 150,000 miles through Mexico and Central America since the early '70s would determine your statement to be wrong.
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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 06:29 AM


Seems to me it's predominantly rich people who take advantage of the rules and steal from others, not the poor. And I'm not looking at only the USA. There's examples all around the world, every day. From oligarchs to plutocrats to wannabe monarchs.

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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 02:20 PM


Talk about clueless and unconnected..........
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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 02:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
The young soldiers grew up poor, and the military does not pay them much.
A private makes about $10,000 per month, which if their expenses are covered when they're on post, is a pretty good wage for uneducated kids (salario mínimo is about $105/day).


What? Do you have an extra zero in there?




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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 02:48 PM


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What? Do you have an extra zero in there?


I am assuming he is talking about pesos!




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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 04:20 PM


There was a recent reply to this post from a first time Nomad explaining his run in with his wife and daughter in the car what happen to the post, why was it deleted ?
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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 04:31 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by bajafreaks  
There was a recent reply to this post from a first time Nomad explaining his run in with his wife and daughter in the car what happen to the post, why was it deleted ?


Coverup!




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[*] posted on 9-30-2019 at 05:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajafreaks  
There was a recent reply to this post from a first time Nomad explaining his run in with his wife and daughter in the car what happen to the post, why was it deleted ?


Coverup!


Moved to a "secret server?"

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