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Make up your own mind, I simply provide links and references to CDC, FDA, comments by Deborah Birx and Fauci in their own words academic abstracts,
and news.
Clearly those sources clearly state that both PCR and Serological tests have false positive and false negatives.
Statistical reporting of Covid19 cases and deaths are significantly flawed and we should not be following those numbers so closely. Instead we should
focus on individual general health and common approaches to increase immunity and treat flu like symptoms.
Healthy diet, exercise, fresh air, sunshine and social engagement are critical human immunity.
Notice that RF Clark and Caj13 consistently provide no sources, except happy fact check bs, no data, no evidence and use fallacious logic to muddy the
waters, which clearly bely an agenda to mislead.
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BCS and BC are not CVOID19 testing extensively except now have a variety of home testing kits for serology, which have low reliability.
COVID19 cases and deaths and probable, suspected provisional based on phone call, questions, zero validation! Reporting of COVID19 statistics should
not be taken too seriously nor used for decision making health policy.
People should focus on normalizing their routine, general health, sunshine, fresh air, exercise and broad healthy nutritious diet.
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COVID Vaccine Testing Results
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
Adverse reactions reported in 50% of it’s participants and 21% suffered SEVERE adverse reactions. All participants were healthy adults under 45. All
antibodies faded in a short amount of time.
"Solicited systemic adverse events were more common after the second vaccination and occurred in 7 of 13 participants (54%) in the 25-μg group, all
15 in the 100-μg group, and all 14 in the 250-μg group, with 3 of those participants (21%) reporting one or more severe events."
"Local adverse events, when present, were nearly all mild or moderate, and pain at the injection site was common. Across both vaccinations, solicited
systemic and local adverse events that occurred in more than half the participants included fatigue, chills, headache, myalgia, and pain at the
injection site."
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  | Vaccine Testing Results
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
Adverse reactions reported in 50% of it’s participants and 21% suffered SEVERE adverse reactions. All participants were healthy adults under 45. All
antibodies faded in a short amount of time.
"Solicited systemic adverse events were more common after the second vaccination and occurred in 7 of 13 participants (54%) in the 25-μg group, all
15 in the 100-μg group, and all 14 in the 250-μg group, with 3 of those participants (21%) reporting one or more severe events."
"Local adverse events, when present, were nearly all mild or moderate, and pain at the injection site was common. Across both vaccinations, solicited
systemic and local adverse events that occurred in more than half the participants included fatigue, chills, headache, myalgia, and pain at the
injection site."
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Paul,
You should wear a helmet when kiting, it appears repeated concussions have made you a bit loopy. Pauly boy, you got s trust fund, you can afford a
good neurologist to mitigate some of your brain damage. Call your mommy, she will help you! Moms are always there to help their wayward sons!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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gnukid, what exactly are your credentials to be “authoritative”? You’re the one who posted the original fake Australian document. I don’t
claim to be an “expert” even though I did work in the medical field including clinical labs.
Medical technology is a “moving feast” It’s changing so fast that it’s difficult to even read the abstracts. That said I do read many. I’m
interested because this disease is new, possibly engineered and definitely political. My friends, family and myself could be infected.
The “experts” Were running to try and keep up as a result a lot of what they said changed and some was Just wrong. Worse some were wrong for
political reasons which should never be condoned. The fact that it’s not only condoned but encouraged speaks volumes about our society.
I can write with lots of citations it’s what I was paid for. I didn’t realize these posts were peer reviewed. I’ll keep it in mind moving
forward.
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The COVID19 positive case and deaths are over-reported and exaggerated due to incentivized amplification, without validation. When you get to the
point when the data is grossly incorrect, due to negligence, with fore-knowledge that is fraud which is a felony and is punishable with prison.
In regard to BCS, BN, I spent the entire time on the ground working with pueblos, hospitals, doctors, dept de Salud, only as a friend and volunteer. I
believed there was a crisis, I spent day in and day out, driving people to the doctor, bringing food, helping out where possible.
The restrictions are a crisis. Mexicans out of work is devastating. Of course many or most I know continued to work some never closed business, but
many did. Soon though it became clear something didn't add up. When you visit pueblos and no one is actually sick or dying, yet there are overwhelming
restrictions on mobility, and businesses yet Walmart and Homedepot are wide open, it starts to raise questions, so we began to do research, there is
no testing, there is incentivisation for positive cases and restrictions.
We looked at those who died, they had pre-existing severe health conditions and had been ill for a long time prior to the their death. No validation
of covid as a unique illness exists through on the ground testing or autoposy.
So we began to dialogue, talk with doctors, who confirmed there is no validated pandemic, but there is an incentivized amplification of positive
suspected provisionally for covid19? Even still the numbers are not significant.Hmm.
I work in health care, I work in data that supports research and data collection. There is no validated data set to support a covid pandemic, yet
there is a preplanned simulation, years of planning and talking points, infographics models, discussion on how to use a pending pandemic corona virus
as a catalyst for Global Reset as part of the Industry 4.0.
I shared many academic abstracts, perhaps thousands of formal gov and edu sources unraveling the fraud, including from CDC, HHS, FDA, etc, and they
openly admit to gross errors, failures, no evidence for pandemic, Deborah Birx says it cleary on live TV, people who die in a car crash are marked as
cause of death from Covid due to simplified guidelines.
There are many agendas underway, its perhaps more complex than the average TV watcher cares to be aware of, though, we are unraveling the fraud and
revealing the truth. Human immunity shielding responds to trillions of protein causing virus, thousands of times second RNA is replicated and
antibodies are produced. For a millennia humans have been successful, while vaccines such as the common flu vaccine have no evidence of efficacy
across demographics, especially for seniors.
Flu vaccine generated 177,000+ adverse effects last year and has no evidence of success. Actual excess deaths from flu in the USA alone are not in the
thousands after validation they are in the hundreds according the VAERS CDC, as I shared.
There is evidence of a biopharma fraud to compel changing human behavior that has no basis in historical response, which has caused significant harm
and precipitated early death by encouraging isolation of geriatrics.
Bill Gates has said that he promotes vaccines, even though they might not work and there is high risk, 700,000 could die from the new covid vaccine
because it's rushed and is not well tested. He also wants to use recombinant DNA sequencing to alter the human species over time to create a cyber
human that can be programmed often and easily, to be monitored, and be constantly connected to AI. Gates has a long family tradition in eugenics and
says he wants to reduce population with vaccines.
Anyone can provide evidence of an islolated COVID live virus infection in a test if it exists, and show an autopsy of a death and show how that death
was caused by COVID19?
Anyone can provide any evidence of a pandemic that is significantly different from typical flu season if they have it from academic r gov sources?
Anyone can contribute a point of view and support with three main points and draw a conclusion?
Take time to gather your thoughts and make a logical contribution to demonstrate your proof of a pandemic in Baja?
Anecdotal Background
Gates on Covid Vaccine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjgbMib36do
The New Cold War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taAHtUDo18Q
Recombinant DNA Vaccine Risk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6xn1pZp6E
Newsom Sends a Billion Dollars ti China
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsom-s-secretive-1...
Assault Weapons parts seized being smuggled into USA from China
www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/10800-assault-weapo...
Fraudulent Covid reporting being held liable
www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/falwells-liber...
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The above information is for an antibody test, not a viral test. It's being used by the poster to discredit the viral test as performed by PCR. The
CDC clearly states that this is an unreliable antibody test and recommends that a viral test be used. The poster stripped out both the title
of the test and the link to the viral test which is being recommended in the link the poster provided.
As such, the above information does not support the initial post because it has nothing to do with it. The initial post refers to the usage of PCR to
determine the gene sequence of RNA of the virus. The followup is an antibody test that measures the IgG and IgM antibodies in an individual that had
the virus at one time.
The poster has falsified CDC information by omission in order to prove his initial point.
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Skipper Jack, Thank you for beginning to pay attention.
The simple point made is that BOTH PCR Covid19 Diagnostic test for infection and Serological test for evidence of post infection antibodies have
variable reliability, false positives and false negatives. PCR test for diagnostic to identify infection of Covid19 is far more unreliable, since it
is a general test for viral pathogen not specific to COVID19. Serological test as well could show positive for any other similar viral antibodies,
since we produce general and specific antibodies, and there are many corona viruses including the common cold.
COVID Testing has 50% chance of being wrong
COVID Testing reporting has been conflating multiple tests and both PCR and serological per person, amplifying results through cumulative counts per
person. Once a person enters the health system as positive they could be tested multiple times a day for weeks, those tests are cumulative,
exponentially amplifying reporting.
In many cases no testing is conducted, an inquiry about suspected COVID19 is reported as suspected provisional positive and never revised even if the
person is negative later.
CDC provisional excess deaths week to week report states negative counts are zeroed out, so no negative numbers are allowed and only positive,
artificially skewing the numbers upward, actual excess deaths year to year are negative, while provisional "artificial" inflation produces a much
higher number.
How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-s...
CDC COVID Gross Reporting Errors
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/coronavirus-t...
Florida Grossly Inflated Reporting
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florid...
The CDC is lumping positive COVID-19 viral and antibody tests together. Here's why that's bad.
https://www.livescience.com/cdc-combined-covid-19-diagnostic...
False Positive and False Negatives skew Covid reporting
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/05/07/this...
Huge COVID Case-Counting Deception at the CDC
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/jon-rappoport/huge-covid...
‘It’s just cuckoo’: state’s latest data mishap causes critics to cry foul
https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/just...
Inaccurate reporting of cause of deaths
https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/washin...
Mass admits reporting errors
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-acknowledges-reportin...
Labs disregard negative tests
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronaviru...
We could be vastly overestimating the death rate for COVID-19. Here's why
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/we-could-be-vastly-ov...
Nevada Pledges to correct reporting errors
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/29/nevada-of...
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Oh, but they are, they are!
And we "peers" here are eminently qualified...
to review tire pressures and subtleties of every bar up and down the Peninsula. 
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Dude. You forgot tacos. Oh and PIZZA! 
MAGA
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | Gnukid,
I don't even know where to start with you. The websites you cite are right wing blogs, with less than a hundred views of the stories you linked too,
and they were all complete misuse, misunderstandings of what Dr. Blix was saying, on top of a complete lack of understanding of the medical
profession, research, and basic fact!
You apparently have no idea what this PCR test is, and what its for. You routinely mis-state and misrepresent information PRESUMABLY because you do
not have the capacity , knowledge, education or experience to understand the scientific method, or medicine, or medical diagnosis, or infectious
disease - etc etc etc.
Your personal agenda , well we have seen that played out here in the USA, and guess what, it's killing people, lots of people. This is not a
political issue - its a public health issue. Your politics are getting people killed - make sure you understand that and own it - it belongs to
you and numerous other individuals willing to allow people to needlessly die, because of your willful ignorance and political leanings -
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well stated and spot on.
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Article from April remains prescient - Selling a
A Viral Pandemic Story Precipitated Early Deaths in Geriatrics
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-i...
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COVID Vaccine Testing Results
Read the entire article to be informed about the vaccine being produced on a fast track
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
"Adverse reactions reported in 50% of it’s participants and 21% suffered SEVERE adverse reactions. All participants were healthy adults under 45.
All antibodies faded in a short amount of time.
Now, imagine if you will, that you are are already at risk for Covid 19 and other infections because of an existing health condition or compromised
immune system. What do you reckon the odds are you would have an adverse reaction to this vaccine?" Melissa Pellegrini.
"Solicited systemic adverse events were more common after the second vaccination and occurred in 7 of 13 participants (54%) in the 25-μg group, all
15 in the 100-μg group, and all 14 in the 250-μg group, with 3 of those participants (21%) reporting one or more severe events."
"Local adverse events, when present, were nearly all mild or moderate, and pain at the injection site was common. Across both vaccinations, solicited
systemic and local adverse events that occurred in more than half the participants included fatigue, chills, headache, myalgia, and pain at the
injection site."
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
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Phase 1 (of 3) test on 45 adults of an experimental vaccine that in fact did produce immune responses.
Determining dosage and observing side effects were part of the experiment.
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People are dying in hospitals, a portion of our community dies each year, primarily seniors and geriatrics from pre-existing illness. Excess deaths
are in the same range year to year for USA, meaning no increase in excess deaths. Shocking to me to see the intentional confusion while the overall
data shows excess deaths patterns are the same year year, no large increase, only a conflation and mis-categorization and intentional amplification of
association to covid for provisional suspected, but not verified as actual.
In the case of severe illness associated to difficulty breathing the majority are attributed to pulmonary illness and pneumonia as causes of death,
according to CDC, WHO year to year, except this year those same number of cases are conflated as from covid, while there is no isolated diagnosis of
covid, it's an intentional conflation to confuse and create a pandemic.
There are also tuberculosis deaths, heart disease, cancer etc. many causes of deaths. Although we are told flu is the cause of death in many thousands
each year, later on, flu is ruled out as a cause of death in most cases and very few remain, less than 1000 for the entire USA as opposed to the
thousands, but few pay attention. The point is the data from CDC, WHO etc. clearly states the data is intentionally conflated today and is not an
accurate representation, there is no accurate diagnosis of covid, nor attribution to covid.
CDC, WHO, institutional and academic studies are not my opinion, not my data, I point out CDC and WHO official statements, clearly, there is no data
or evidence that there is a unique isolated covid that is causing pandemic death today, though certainly people do have illnesses, flu like symptoms,
corona viruses, stress, and many are the result of poor general health and failures in nutrition, stress, failure of health care professionals to
properly diagnose and treat illnesses.
It's unfortunate that sharing the source data to show conflicts in the data and conclusions, leads to an aggressive position to attack, while choosing
a position of ignorance. Pay close attention to the data and evidence and decide for yourself.
Furthermore, the primary impetus for my own research and sharing is that SENIORS AND GERIATRICS ARE ISOLATED AND ABANDONED precipitating early death.
I have spent the majority of my time and energy, over 6 months actively engaging and encouraging people to go and visit and care for their family
members who are isolated and abandoned and suffering. I drove to the doctor many times and provided care, made soups etc.
I am going to continue to advocate for seniors and geriatrics, you are welcome to unfriend or unfollow me. Please direct your thinking and energy to
be productive and positive to take action to care for our families and communities and educate yourself, isolation is harmful and doesn't reduce risk
it increases risk to health and immunity.
The primary risk to health we are witnessing is stress, agitation, isolation and depression as a result of fear and misinformation associated to a
media narrative not based on evidence or data. Most importantly, focus on personal health, 90 essential vitamins, minerals, amino acids, exercise,
fresh air and sunshine. Isolation is extremely harmful.
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Why did you use CDC quotes on antibody tests for a post on viral tests?
That was unethical. You tried to mislead your readers. And now you say it doesn't matter because they're the same? Yes, it matters. Lying always
matters, no matter the cause.
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SkipJack
Completely false conflation. The issue is not you or me, The topic is accuracy of COVID19 PCR viral infection testing and post infection Serological
Testing accuracy, both of which have degrees of false positive according to their documentation and to institutional health leaders. In addition those
two test types have been conflated at times, in addition to multiple tests of the same person conflated, resulting in amplification.
It is clear, the Skip Jack has a long tradition of fallacious logic, trolling posts, to promote his personal political agenda, which is apparently
called curmdgeonism.
Focus on personal health, your personal health, make up your own mind, if you want to take tests, or wear a mask, or isolate go right ahead. If you
feel you may need to review long term pre-existng conditions or a new symptom, don't wait to reach out to your doctor.
Be well, my fellow Nomad, your health is a priority.
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Why did you use CDC quotes on antibody tests for a post on viral tests?
That was unethical. You tried to mislead your readers. And now you say it doesn't matter because they're the same? Yes, it matters. Lying always
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No gnukid. The issue is a post of false information followed by your doctored information to support false information. No only was the original post
a lie someone created but then you intentionally took truthful information and created a lie out of it. As far as I know this is a first even for you.
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This whole usa epidemic would be over by now if the national leadership had implemented mandatory nationwide social distancing with mandatory masks
for 6 week period.
Instead, our leaderless country will endure 1+ year of epidemic... Dont want the public to give up their right to be infected and their right to
infect others!
Woke!
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Hay Goat,
Did you ever read the 10th Amendment? (Probably Not!) the President can’t do that.
The President might have declared Martial Law and then done it but my guess is some Judge in Hawaii would have declared it unconstitutional and
blocked him! Part of the U.S. had habeas corpus suspended by Lincoln in 1861.
The Federal Court blocked Lincoln and Congress was required to pass the Habeas Corpus Suspension Act in 1863. A similar law would likely have been
needed in this case. You might ask Speaker Nancy why she didn’t do that. You might ask some of the Governors why they didn’t do that either!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_(1863)
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Hay Goat,
Did you ever read the 10th Amendment? (Probably Not!) the President can’t do that.
The President might have declared Martial Law and then done it but my guess is some Judge in Hawaii would have declared it unconstitutional and
blocked him! Part of the U.S. had habeas corpus suspended by Lincoln in 1861.
The Federal Court blocked Lincoln and Congress was required to pass the Habeas Corpus Suspension Act in 1863. A similar law would likely have been
needed in this case. You might ask Speaker Nancy why she didn’t do that. You might ask some of the Governors why they didn’t do that either!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_(1863)
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You deserve what you get. Dont lick the doorknobs!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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