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Brian L
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Ass Abuse!
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David K
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Fun video clip of Mike 'playing his burro' while you narrate, Graham!
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Mike told me he has gone down several notches on his belt since when he first left Tecate and his strength / stamina each day was improving. The limit
on how far they travel each day in this kind of terrain is mostly a factor of Don-Kay. My guess is right now Mike could easily do 20-25 miles a day if
he was just walking by himself with no backpack. The lighter load on Don-Kay is obviously working.
We'll all just keep our fingers crossed that the group continues on, safe and healthy...
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo My guess is right now Mike could easily do 20-25 miles a day if he was just walking by himself with no
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Hmmmmmmm, I have always wondered about these claims. "-----20-25 miles a day-----"? In my youth (16 to 25) I used to do hikes all the time with the
SIERRA CLUB in the San Diego County desert and backcountry, and the max. we EVER did was 21 miles in one day, and there were about 32 serious
experienced hikers on that trip and we all almost died from exhaustion. We hiked from near the little town of ANZA, down canyon along Coyote Creek to
Collins Valley, mostly downhill, and we were only carrying daypacks. I cannot understand how ANYBODY other than pure athletes (or soldiers) could
ever do that day after day---------I have been skeptical ever since. 20 miles is a very longggggggg hike. 
(ok, now I will be torn apart, no doubt) 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
20 miles is a very longggggggg hike.
(ok, now I will be torn apart, no doubt)
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It's a long drive for me.
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Skipjack Joe
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Again, my experience echos Barry's.
Every summer camp in the sierras we had one full day that was devoted to a hike. We had two camps, the girls and boys. One year the girls did a 25
mile hike that started at 8AM in August. They didn't show up at dinner. They didn't show up at dusk. We got real worried and sent out parties to look
for them. And we did eventually find them dog tired making their way back with flashlights. We all pretended as though nothing out of the ordinary had
happened as they entered camp in formation at what must have been 9:30PM and later to the kitchen for the dinner they had missed.
Fifteen miles a day is pushing it.
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Dec. 1, 2010
Mike and company walked 11 miles today and made camp east of Punta Lobos. They are just 20 miles from Santa Rosalillita... May be there Friday
afternoon... for a weekend of rest and fiesta?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo My guess is right now Mike could easily do 20-25 miles a day if he was just walking by himself with no
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Hmmmmmmm, I have always wondered about these claims. "-----20-25 miles a day-----"? In my youth (16 to 25) I used to do hikes all the time with the
SIERRA CLUB in the San Diego County desert and backcountry, and the max. we EVER did was 21 miles in one day, and there were about 32 serious
experienced hikers on that trip and we all almost died from exhaustion. We hiked from near the little town of ANZA, down canyon along Coyote Creek to
Collins Valley, mostly downhill, and we were only carrying daypacks. I cannot understand how ANYBODY other than pure athletes (or soldiers) could
ever do that day after day---------I have been skeptical ever since. 20 miles is a very longggggggg hike.
(ok, now I will be torn apart, no doubt)
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if you hike every day, it gets much easier. if you don't hike everyday, then a single weekend warrior hike of 15 miles can woop you your ass
i suspect that if you ask the man of the hour, mike, he will tell you he is doing the pace he wants to do
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The 20-25 mile figure I gave was assuming fairly flat areas like Mike has been traveling the last week and no backpack. If you are hiking in the hills
or carrying a load I would agree that would be pushing it...
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In reading logs of those that hike the Pacific Crest Trail it is not unusual to average over 15 miles per day, I read of one hiker averaging 20
miles/day including off days. Not something I could do.
For Mike, I think DK (the burro ) determines the final pace.
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Perhaps he's picked up the pace to make up for the days lost in the Catarina area.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
In reading logs of those that hike the Pacific Crest Trail it is not unusual to average over 15 miles per day, I read of one hiker averaging 20
miles/day including off days. Not something I could do.
For Mike, I think DK (the burro) determines the final pace.
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Back in the day, mi compadre and I hiked from Mulege to the Pacific side a couple times in 4-5 days..a meandering distance of about 85 miles. Piece
of cake for youngsters like us then...not so easy today, I am afraid. Even walking along the roadway.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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If he's on fairly flat terrain and not wasting time doubling back to find his way, he can do 2 mph, which is a rule-of-thumb for backpacking. So
getting started at 9 am, and setting up camp before dusk at 5:00 pm, gives him 8 hours. A couple rest breaks, and you have a standard day. Mike said
that for his first days of this trek, he felt like he was doing Navy SEAL training - it was so strenuous for him. But he's lost weight en route, and
his daily mileage makes him stronger, assuming he's getting enough food, water and sleep. And Mike is carrying a backpack, with lots of heavy stuff in
it. It amazed me when he'd pull out a 3 lb. flashlight . . .
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
It amazed me when he'd pull out a 3 lb. flashlight . . . |
he needs to ditch that heavy light and get LED headlamp, and LED hand light.
i love how nomads are all armchair packers, opining on muleskinning, optimal mileage for 62 year old muleskinners, flashlights, communication, etc.
i am waiting for the peanut gallery to tell him he needs to get a Kindle
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He needs to get a Kindle.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
He needs to get a Kindle. |
which version? wifi, 3g or DX?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
which version? wifi, 3g or DX? |
The biggest, heaviest model with a bag of extra batterys the size of Sears Die-Hards.
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Brian L
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How will he upload books to his Kindle? Is there a satellite link?
Will he read stories to DonKay? Is that considered abuse if it is a story the donkey wants?
Brian
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| Quote: | Originally posted by blane
How will he upload books to his Kindle? Is there a satellite link?
Will he read stories to DonKay? Is that considered abuse if it is a story the donkey wants? |
Goat will loan him his smart phone.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by blane
How will he upload books to his Kindle? Is there a satellite link?
Will he read stories to DonKay? Is that considered abuse if it is a story the donkey wants? |
kindle holds up to 3,000 books, so only needs dowload once.
don-kay needs an iPad so he can watch mr ed movies.
solo has no time for frivilous reading annd movie watching, needs to stay on guard duty at night
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