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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 09:20 AM


George

Pod of Orcas in front of the house in Nov. Maybe they are helping you out this year.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 09:31 AM


I, and more importantly, the pangeros trying to support their families and Pueblo, would greatly appreciate their help.

gonna visit us in Alaska next summer?

probably won't get back to Ojos till September, ouch!

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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 09:37 AM


yes George...

The force is strong in this young(ish) jedi..

The population of those fuggas is out of control around here(channel islands). nuthin you can do, protected..we are already scared sh-tless about getting our commercial permits yanked for ANY little violation.. If "they" caught us messing with a piniped we would be strung up on the wharf in Santa Barbara (right next to arlington west) and stoned ( the bad kind) by the would be protectors of the pinipeds..you know the kind, never been to the outer islands to see the thousands and thousands of these things all over the beach, but still fighting to protect the "endangered"
seals and sealions...AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH......the truely endangered species that needs protection (or a solid buy out program!) is ME, the commercial fisherman...

its not enough to restrict us to the brink, but now the mlpa's and other closures that are coming down the pike....We're doomed!!!

is it to early to start drinking?
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 12:31 PM


Tomas T., A commercial fishermans income, at one time, was determined by his energy and his ability. It's now based on qoutas. You're allowed only to catch a certain amount.:( Wouldn't advise anybody to jump into the commercial fishing game.:(
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 01:15 PM
MY GOD!


THAT VIDEO WAS OUTRAGEOUS AND MADE ME WEEP!
If those ocean raping Japanese bast*rds are going to kill dolphins (and everything else), as they obviously are, legal or not, how much does a bullet cost? I couldn't watch anything after the part where the guy was cutting up a dolphin while it was still flipping around. I sat and cried.
Once, out puttering in my Porta Boat with Graham, we were surrounded by a heard of dolphins in the THOUSANDS. Some were as long as my little boat and they could have easily dumped us in the drink for a laugh. Happily, they came up for a visit and chatted at us. It lasted for about an hour untill the straglers got bored with us and left us to catch up with the herd. One of my favorite times.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 01:28 PM


M, Tears don't have any affect on people that butcher dolphins. :(
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 02:44 PM


I'm big on conservation, but as the late great JR pointed out at the beginning of this thread, the "Children's Pool" in La Jolla is uninhabitable by children or anyone else due to the level of seal excrement. And they ain't leaving anytime soon . . . :mad:
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my son-in-law a commercial lobsterman/scallop dragger is being slowly clubbed by the marooons in government while the foreign fishing fleets rape the chit out of everything...The 3/4 boats out of L.A., San Diego and everywhere else are being slowly decimated...but save this and save that continues day after day???

the bleeding hearts! had 40 miles of beach on the Cape Cod National "Seashore", a (supposedly) National "Recreation" Area. Fought the gestapos in the Interior Dept for 15 years..a waste of time. All that beach is now down to 8 miles at the most to 1 1/2 or nothing at the least.
Save the piping plover, a bird that flies to South America and is killed for it's feathers....

How's this for our government: We had a covenant attached to the original Deed of Conveyance that conveyed the Province lands over to the Feds (JFK and his gang in '61). In the "Covenant" it was stated in no uncertain terms that "traditional rights of hunting, fishing and access" would be honored in perpetuity......wrong! Was told "times change", so says I, documents and covenants don't, Superintendant, were you an Indian Agent in another life?

His answer, our Government speaking mind you, don't like it "sue us"! So my despise of all the armchair and "professional" environmentalist knows no bounds. They are despicable and self serving with less care about the environment and wildlife then any of us with a shred of provider instinct left in us.

No fight left in me, I choose to hide out in Baja and Alaska and do what I can, when I can and with whatever I can....Amerika, land of the free, not anymore...............Capt. George




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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 04:35 PM
Then why not


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I'm big on conservation, but as the late great JR pointed out at the beginning of this thread, the "Children's Pool" in La Jolla is uninhabitable by children or anyone else due to the level of seal excrement. And they ain't leaving anytime soon . . . :mad:
swim in a public pool like most people have too if they do not have a pool in the backyard...you know where the buffalo used to roam??? :no:
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 04:45 PM


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I'm big on conservation, but as the late great JR pointed out at the beginning of this thread, the "Children's Pool" in La Jolla is uninhabitable by children or anyone else due to the level of seal excrement. And they ain't leaving anytime soon . . . :mad:
swim in a public pool like most people have too if they do not have a pool in the backyard...you know where the buffalo used to roam??? :no:


http://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/cd1/neighborhoods/lajoll...

And by the way, buffalo make terrific burgers also. :cool:
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 04:46 PM
Foreign fishing fleets.....


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my son-in-law a commercial lobsterman/scallop dragger is being slowly clubbed by the marooons in government while the foreign fishing fleets rape the sh-t out of everything...The 3/4 boats out of L.A., San Diego and everywhere else are being slowly decimated...but save this and save that continues day after day???

the bleeding hearts! had 40 miles of beach on the Cape Cod National "Seashore", a (supposedly) National "Recreation" Area. Fought the gestapos in the Interior Dept for 15 years..a waste of time. All that beach is now down to 8 miles at the most to 1 1/2 or nothing at the least.
Save the piping plover, a bird that flies to South America and is killed for it's feathers....

How's this for our government: We had a covenant attached to the original Deed of Conveyance that conveyed the Province lands over to the Feds (JFK and his gang in '61). In the "Covenant" it was stated in no uncertain terms that "traditional rights of hunting, fishing and access" would be honored in perpetuity......wrong! Was told "times change", so says I, documents and covenants don't, Superintendant, were you an Indian Agent in another life?

His answer, our Government speaking mind you, don't like it "sue us"! So my despise of all the armchair and "professional" environmentalist knows no bounds. They are despicable and self serving with less care about the environment and wildlife then any of us with a shred of provider instinct left in us.

No fight left in me, I choose to hide out in Baja and Alaska and do what I can, when I can and with whatever I can....Amerika, land of the free, not anymore...............Capt. George
I hate them and what they have done. I am from what once was a fishing town...Bandon Oregon....Charleston area. Once was a fishing community...not anymore...just a fleet of fishing boats rusting away, tied up and no job to do anymore. Those days are long gone. It is those foreign fishing fleets that caused the chain reaction and they are still taking anything they can get in their boat.....I too have chose to hide out in Baja because I just could not take it anymore....and do what I can, whenever I want....
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 07:44 PM


and people jumped on my borro about the so called inviromentalist?? its terrorists and its big bucks out of every bleeding heart that suporting them be it owls, seal sea lions, plovers , and all the little plants that somone discovered all the well wishing in the world wont make a bit of difference the lawers and organasations that they reprosent are feeding on peoples and thier money
our polititions are i selling us out to the highst bidding lobbyests its like a bunch of prostetues there little honor or loyality left to this great county its fast bucks and me me me III got mine and tomorrows somone elses problem
one more thing my typing isnt the greatest but my heart is in the right place so if ya few who dont like it suffer with the rest of us you might notice im a bit peeed




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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 08:16 PM


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I'm big on conservation, but as the late great JR pointed out at the beginning of this thread, the "Children's Pool" in La Jolla is uninhabitable by children or anyone else due to the level of seal excrement. And they ain't leaving anytime soon . . . :mad:


I'm all for letting the seals have a couple hundred feet of beach. The seals provide lots of entertainment for tourists, and I think humans can carry there fat butts a couple hundred yards to the north and swim at the cove, or go a mile north and swim at LJ shores.
BTW, I think the seals have more right to object to San Diegans ocean pollution than humans have to complain about a few seal turds.
Personally, I think if we ban seals because of their fecal matter, then we should ban dogs from dog-turd beach in OB. Them dogs and their owners are worse than seals doing what comes naturally.
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hummmmmmm............
i wonder if these seals taste anything like vaquita?:?::O

No, more like vagin*!




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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 08:49 PM


this thread is the best:light:



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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 09:24 PM
You gotta have salt and pepper


because the overzealous protector of the seas has absolutely no taste. And no hard knowledge either.
Yep, the salmon fishery has been declared a failure by the experts. WTH does that mean?
I heard that before. Like 15 -20 yrs ago. Then magically, the salmon came back in record numbers in the late 80s. Things were good. Then..........WTF happened??

Yep, those sea lions are voracious and smart too. Why are there so many? Gee, aren't Orcas supposed to control our finned best friends? Hmmmmmmmm???

Ok people, simmer down. Get real, it wasn't just the Japanese and Russians draggin' the Continental shelf. Don't forget the long-liners. Don't forget the drift netting, in-shore gill-netting. We all participated but we never set aside areas for long-range study. We could have learned much.

We're all a bunch of idiots when it comes to managing natural resources. They should dop the "natural" part. Let's face it's always better product than farmed. That is if it can be farmed.

What to do? What to do?

Hey! Iknow! Sell yer boat! Sell all the boats. Hang all the fishermen. Better yet, sell your countries fishing rights to the Japanese and Koreans. That might help................feeding some rich cat in Tokyo:O

Stop exporting products from our waters or....
WE ARE DOOMED!

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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 10:25 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by movinguy
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Originally posted by kellychapman
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Originally posted by movinguy
I'm big on conservation, but as the late great JR pointed out at the beginning of this thread, the "Children's Pool" in La Jolla is uninhabitable by children or anyone else due to the level of seal excrement. And they ain't leaving anytime soon . . . :mad:
swim in a public pool like most people have too if they do not have a pool in the backyard...you know where the buffalo used to roam??? :no:


http://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/cd1/neighborhoods/lajoll...

And by the way, buffalo make terrific burgers also. :cool:
thank you as that is the point...I love buffalo prime rib and burgers. Buffalo meat is the best as far as red meat ...I love Emu too as it is so lean......that is why it would be so nice not to exinquish and to respect the animal.....yummmmmmmmm would I love a buffalo burger...
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 10:32 PM
Even with your typing....


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and people jumped on my borro about the so called inviromentalist?? its terrorists and its big bucks out of every bleeding heart that suporting them be it owls, seal sea lions, plovers , and all the little plants that somone discovered all the well wishing in the world wont make a bit of difference the lawers and organasations that they reprosent are feeding on peoples and thier money
our polititions are i selling us out to the highst bidding lobbyests its like a bunch of prostetues there little honor or loyality left to this great county its fast bucks and me me me III got mine and tomorrows somone elses problem
one more thing my typing isnt the greatest but my heart is in the right place so if ya few who dont like it suffer with the rest of us you might notice im a bit peeed
very well said if I may say so myself....keep up on this thread and your typing will get better.....:lol: keeps getting better and better....and a hot topic for sure.....:bounce:
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[*] posted on 12-12-2006 at 11:53 PM
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not all fisheries operate under direct quotas..still some profitable, sustainable ones out there,not many though...if you can get a permit to fish them..Something I will not be encouraging my son to get involved in, unfortunatly:(
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......I am not coming back to this thread again.....barbarians is what you are......:O
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