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Dave
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Quote: | Originally posted by SBSRF
Guess they should of had a motor. Tragic.
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Nah...Should have had a competent captain. Good sailors don't need motors and poor ones shouldn't sail.
The boat went aground because someone was sailing her where they shouldn't, plain and simple.
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SBSRF
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Have to agree with you Dave. Un-qualified sailors shouldn't try to do what those two young men tried. It's a sad end to a blissfull story.
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HotSchott
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Wow. This story played out like the Darwin awards. There is NOTHING about sailing a ketch-rigged, 10-ton, 40-foot, concrete monohull in Baja that
vaguely resembles amature or easy. Without inboard power, that boat sailed like a rock. In 30-knots + wind, that was a disaster waiting to happen.
That boat would be challenging to an experienced sailor even on a perfect day!
We just got back from bareboating a 40-foot catamaran in Belize for 12 days. The house is still swaying and we are still stepping over bulkheads when
we go through doors. People should have enormous respect for the ocean especially in Baja. After 35+ years sailing, I can honestly say I am just a
beginner skipper with SOO much left to learn.
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Dave
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Quote: | Originally posted by HotSchott
Wow. This story played out like the Darwin awards. There is NOTHING about sailing a ketch-rigged, 10-ton, 40-foot, concrete monohull in Baja that
vaguely resembles amature or easy. Without inboard power, that boat sailed like a rock. In 30-knots + wind, that was a disaster waiting to happen.
That boat would be challenging to an experienced sailor even on a perfect day!
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Especially in the SOC. I'd sooner sail a dinghy in the Southern Ocean than be on the Cortez in a blow. Even in a well-found boat, the seas
can be killers...Like sailing in an agitated bathtub. And if you need it, where's the sea-room? They were damn lucky nobody died.
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Naomi
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Hello fellow nomad's.
I'm amazed to see the pictures of our wreck. We lost everything during that voyage, including my fathers remains.
Luckily nobody was hurt, with the exception of several scrapes and bruises. There were six of us on the vessel that day; myself, my 14 year old
sister, my best friend, my boyfriend, the captain and his mate.
The wreck happened on Wednesday November 16th before dawn. The winds that evening were surprisingly strong and kept getting worse thru the night. We
dropped the sails and dropped two anchors as we were slowly approaching conception point. We were woken up just before dawn by the captain telling us
to abandon ship. We did so less than 30 seconds before the Kiyomi hit.
We found two men that helped us carry the few items we were able to recover to their truck 5km away. From there they took us to Loreto where we rented
a Hotel and car. Thank god credit cards are not damaged by seawater!!!
The following morning we arrived safely in La Paz with nothing more than stinky wet bags.
I?m still amazed that you all have heard about the wreck? Those pictures?. WOW?
I?m glad there are people like you who care!
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Bob and Susan
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Thank God you all were safe.....
What a story you will be able to tell....later...
The history of this boat....
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Tucker
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Ironically, your father got to go down with his ship.
[Edited on 1-2-2006 by Tucker]
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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Al G
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WOW
What a story! This could make a movie.
Sorry to hear your misfortune Naomi. Your Father will always be part of the Sea of Cortes now and I think he may have wanted it like that.
Albert
[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Al G]
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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