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Phil C
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DJH, Your story sounds so familier. When I met my wife, I told her "I know this nice little town..." turns out she had been flying there for a few
years on a charter airline and loved the place. We decided to be in town,but didn't realize how close to the centro we would end up. The most pleasent
suprise we had after buying/building was the comfort of the neighbors. Thier honest welcoming and sincere care for us and the welfare of the
neighborhood,and town in general made us feel so much at home. We have made wonderfull new friends, both Mexican and American, while we have been
fortunate enough to spend more time in Loreto. Changes are coming, but we can enjoy the people and thier culture for a while longer. Loreto will grow
and change as it will... we are blessed to have a part in it at this time. As my uncle told me .....Life is short, go fish.
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jerry
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welcome to loreto djh i love it too
jerry and judi
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djh
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Mood: Mellow fellow, plays a yellow cello...
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Thanks!
A hearty thank you to Vandenberg, Phil C, Jerry, and Sharksbaja! It seems Shing and I are already making some new friends~ 
Seems the magic of a special place like Loreto really does get under our skin in a profound way. Maybe it is related to Bajajudy's signature "The more
we are separated from nature, the unhappier we get.." There is so much natural beauty in Loreto.... we've become infected and contagious!
I look forward to meeting each of you in person soon and learning more about our soon to be new home ~ from each of you.
I have a small trailerable sailboat I hope to bring down in the future and a couple of kayaks that I'd love to share. And maybe you can help this
Idaho flyfisherman learn a few saltwater tricks!
Life is good!
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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Skeet/Loreto
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May I suggest, one of the first things to do after getting to know your Neighbors, is to take a Walk up the old road to San Javier. On the way up you
get a very Good view of allof Loreto.
Next get in Touvh with some of the old time fisherman from both North and South of Loreto, have them take you and show you the manythings about the
Sea Of Cortez in and Around Loreto.Learn the Weather and Water around Loreto and you will b able to do and see many places that are not over used.
Find the Hot water just South of Pulpito for a good place to Skinny Dip and maybe catch a White Lobster! Just North of Pulpito off of the Next Point
you can catch Ling Cod{Greenies} In the Spring time you can catch "Fire cackers" in you Kyack. Slow troll a small Cast Master near the rocks.
Oh! there are so many good Memories!!
Have a Good time
Skeet/Loreto
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Don Alley
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djh
Lots of folks here from Idaho, and I'm from Montana...but even though I owned I fly shop there I don't flyfish here, at least not yet. I fish from a
kayak, too.
We live in town, nice neighborhood with nice neighbors. My wife's in the cocina now teaching a neighbor how to make chocalate chip cookies. She's
nicer than me, if she posted here her posts would be nice like yours. 
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Don Alley
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Skeet?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Rodridgo, Mundo, Bianco all who helped Virginia and I to build Rancho Sonrisa.--Manuel M, Dr. Collins, Arturo Sucrey, Domingo Pres.
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Skeet, did you know Dr. Collins is in the hospital in La Paz? He crashed his car into a telephone pole in town, and was seriously injured.
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Ranger Rich
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Progress
I don't normaly comment on these threads but some of it reminded me of two examples of growth/change and the impacts on overall quality of life in an
area that I know about :
I grew up and lived in Santa Barbara CA but moved away in the 80's. It had lost it's charm for me by then. I know people who live there now and think
it is great but anyone who was there in the 50's and 60's can tell you it is not better for having grown into what it is now.
The Owens Valley in eastern California was compared to the Missouri River valley at the start of the 20th century. Since then it has become a desert
after being pumped dry to supply water to southern California via William Mulholland's aquaduct. The water table in the area has been drawn down to
the point that even trees with very deep root systems are dying out. The dust storms from the now dry Owens lake make for the worst air quality in the
country on windy days.
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Sharksbaja
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common denominators
Rick, you are new here so you probably have missed many folks describe the same course of events where they spent the latter part of the 1900s in
beautiful(sic)California. The Owens Valley being one of them. The coast of Calif south from Santa Barbara another.
That may well be the reason so many of us love and relocate in Baja Sur. I just have a hard time envisioning that type of growth and construction in
the Loreto area. It is still a nice place. Afterall, we left it behind before so why would we want to relive the same distruction(IMHO) of a beautiful
place all over again.
Mr. Butterworth knows cushy and comfy.
Why do we want more of the same in Baja(later)
It's a question I keep wondering about.
Hmmmmm......mucho sol por la huesos?
Frankly, I think it's the rich opportunists wreaking havoc.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Don: thanks for the Info on Dr. Collins; Can you giv me anymore details. Etc.
Dr. Collins"Tanny" treated my Mother when she came to Loreto on several different occcasions in the 70's and 80's.
He was one time the Delagado of Loreto and did you know that many years ago his Father was head of the communist party in La Paz. In the 70's there
was a party Office on the Main Street of of Villa Constitution.
He is a great Guy, Hope he recovers.
Skeet
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Juan del Rio
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Old Life in Loreto
Aerial photo from the Howard Gulick collection. Photo taken in April 1961.
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Juan del Rio
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Loreto, April 1957. From the Howard Gulick collection
[Edited on 12-19-2005 by Juan del Rio]
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Don: thanks for the Info on Dr. Collins; Can you giv me anymore details. Etc.
Dr. Collins"Tanny" treated my Mother when she came to Loreto on several different occcasions in the 70's and 80's.
He was one time the Delagado of Loreto and did you know that many years ago his Father was head of the communist party in La Paz. In the 70's there
was a party Office on the Main Street of of Villa Constitution.
He is a great Guy, Hope he recovers.
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Collins was driving down Missioneros after attending a party and apparently fell asleep. He hit a telephone pole at the corner of Missioneros and Agua
Dulce at a high speed. I hear he had three operations, and suffered from broken ribs, punctured lung and damaged liver.
This info is word of mouth, so I can't vouch for its accuracy.
I didn't know the doctor (I see Dr. Green), just met him once, but he did some good doctoring for some good friends who thought the world of him. We
sure hope he recovers.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Juan Del Rio; The Picture of the Mission Tower looking West toward the Mtns.
For many years the building on the right side of the Photo was the Local Pool Hall, and next to that was the Place you could buy Loaves of Bread,
baked in a Brick oven.{1968]. The bread at that time came from Bimbo across the Ferry, Boletos came from Santa Roasiltia after the road was paved
That was when we still had Dancing at the Plaza, New years eve party on the Second Story of the the Municipal-- Cafe Ole was not there at that time,
and where the Plaz Hotel now sets, Negro killed a couple of Beef in the back on a concrete slab and sold the meat to the Customers lined up out
Front..
Freddie Aguliar was Bartentder at the Flying Sportsman, The Hotel Oasis had 6 Rooms at $9.00 a Day with 3 meals, fishing in a panga with two people
cost $20.
1968- the first Presdiente{Now the La Pinta} was being built, no chilly Willys, no Malacon, no Marina.. Most of the fisherman went out off the Beach
in front of the Oasis, Mission, and the Little dock at the Flying Sportsman.
the Kids using rebar with a line attached would throw their "Spears" into a School of 35 Lb. yellowtail that came swooping in close to Shore.
The twin engine Convair was landing at the Municipal Strip which is now occupied by the Prep School and Ft. Apache.
1972 The Local People went out to the Cathouse and burned it to the Ground.
1974- The Bell that had been stolen more that 200 years opast was brought up in a fishermans Net to be illegally taken to La Paz.{SAome one should
wrte up this story}
Lots of Memories
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Juan del Rio
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Skeet...know the street?
Loreto 1957. From the Howard Gulick collection.
Your commentary is great. I have a few buddies in town that have owned homes in Loreto since the late eighties (but are "lurkers" on the board) and
won't join the fun that this board offers to us Baja fans. Your comments and insight are really appreciated. I have a few more photos, but can't give
it up yet till we get a few more stories. Thanks!
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Skeet/Loreto
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I know the buildings but cannot call the name of the Street??
Ben Benner had the first Fid0 commiso in Loreto. He built the House directly across the street from the entrance to the Oasis. The Multi floor
Structure in front of his House was built by the Widow of a Bush Pilot that was killed on Take off from a Questionable Strip near Culican. He had
brought in a lot of Shop tools and taught several youngsters their Use.
Tio Don O;Niel was living in the Trailer on the Ortego Property when he built Fred Shields House. Tio and Fred were Neighbors in Long Beach and also
Masonic Brothers. There was no Lodge in Loreto so we had to travel to Villa which has 2 Lodges.
Jim Parker and Von showed up a couple of years later and buit Houses, then Don Rosendahl.
Skeet
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tehag
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Loreto
Skeet:
You don't mention Chuck's Tiger's house on Davis, circa 1980, or the Casita Quemada on the next corner. That was built by the Duncans earlier yet.
The questionable strip Greg was taking off from was actually a farm field at his wife Neli's former home in Aguamita just north of Fuerte.
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LaTijereta
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Nice Insight
Skeet,
Jim and Mary Parker were already there, when my father "Vagn" and my mother came to town to live full time in 1978.
They set up first over by the Sportsman' Lodge, but later bought property from Saragosa (bartender at the Sportsman) to build a house near central
Loreto.
The house got built, but I made several trips down the hwy with materials to get it done...There were no material yards in Loreto in those days
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jerry
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where was the sportsman located?? la pinta?? mission hotel oasis hotel?? somewhere in between??
jerry and judi
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tehag
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Loreto
Flying Sportsman Lodge was in Colonia Zaragosa and is now the Villas de Loreto.
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jerry
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thanks tehag jerry
jerry and judi
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