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Baja Bernie
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Dennis
Shots have been fired on a number of occasions by guys wearing Mexican Army uniforms--Mostly on our side of the Arizona and New Mexico Border. Just
have to protect those drugs smugglers.
Our Border guys are complaining about always being out-gunned.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Skeet/Loreto
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Wow! This is a Great Thread1
I am learning a Lot about Baja Norte;
I can only relate my Experience with Baja Sur Since 1968.
Bernie: Was there not a Canidate for President Shot to Death on the Streets of TJ some years past?
Did not the People of Punta Banda fall to the "Failure to Investigate the Title of the Property they Purchased??-Let the Buyer Beware.
Is it not a Known Fact that a Group of Leftist from Mexicao City were and Are still Behind the Chapias Affair??
It is a most difficult and slow Process to change the Mexican People.
I will continue to Love Baja and its People until they Spread my Ashes over the Sea Of Cortez somewhere around Del Efonso Isla off of San Nicholas .
Fear is a Sign of Imaturity.
Skeet/Loreto
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DENNIS
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Good points Skeet ---
Let me know when they spread your ashes so I'll know where to keep my hook out of the water for a few days.
The Punta Banda expropriation went way beyond a "Failure to investigate". It was more a "Decision for sale" affair.
Fear is also an alarm for self-preservation. I guess it's many things.
Bernie ---
I wasn't refering to the border. The border is a war zone. I was talking about urban areas in the southwest that are now engulfed in the culture of
Mexico.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The day will come when shots are fired but, it will start from within, not a wave from the south. |
Agreed. Mexico's Southern poor have nothing, never did. Revolution, when it comes, will only succeed if supported by those who have had...and
lost.
When the oil runs out, I'll be long gone. 
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Dennis:
If you have not already done so;
Bordering on CHAOS--Andres Oppenheimer
FIRE and BLOOD--T. R. Fehrenbach
Make sure the Hook is Large as you know about "Everything is Big In Texas"
Skeet
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Dave
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Just a bit more complicated
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Did not the People of Punta Banda fall to the "Failure to Investigate the Title of the Property they Purchased??-Let the Buyer Beware.
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False title records were recorded and banks issued trusts based on falsified title.
Plain and simple, Punta Banda homeowners were swindled. If they were guilty of anything it was false hope. The case was in court for years, yet they
continued to buy...At bargain prices.
If something looks too good to be true...it usually is.
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DENNIS
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Thanks Skeet ----
Oppenheimer did a good job in this report. Sorry to say that, in Mexico, things change so rapidly that good writing , such as this, becomes obsolete
as you read it. The consolidation of wealth in Mexico, once considered an anchor on social development, has become globalized to the point of being
a milestone in the development of this and other emerging nations. Slim Helu is a case in point. Ten years ago he would have been considered a rich,
greedy pig. Today he is a leader of global industry and the only thing he changed in that time was his shorts. At least, I hope he did.
I didn't read "Fire And Blood", but I will.
If I may return the favor, allow me to give you food for thought, "Mexicos Mandarins".
Thanks again, Skeet
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DENNIS
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Dave ---
Im not refering to revolution in Mexico. Im talking about an insurgency in the United States. I believe it's inevitable.
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Hola all!
I am a new Nomad living in Southern Baja for past 11 years. Born in La Jolla, raised in North County of San Diego. Prior to moving here, I regularly
visited Baja numerous times a year since 1969. My wife is Mexican and my two boy's were born in Baja.
Baja Bernie: Have no idea why you would post and insinuate such an hypothesis. You are scaring people.
I am very familiar with Punta Banda. Simply stated, they purchased from someone who did not own the property.
As a member of the Los Cabos MLS and AMPI, which is now strongly associated with the American and Mexican Association of Realtors, foreigner's
purchasing property in Mexican have never been more protected with regard to their investment.
Currently, the Los Cabos MLS and AMPI have a goal to raise $150,000US for those affected by Hurrican John. As Mulege had the most devastation,
behind the East Cape in Los Cabos, Mulege will receive a large percentage of the funds. The drive begain on the 14th. Almost $20,000 has been donated
to date by the Los Cabos MLS Real Estate broker's and agent's.
Please consider what you post! Maybe if you have so much time on your hands, you should write another book. Please make it positive.
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Dave
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Shame on you, Bernie!
| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
Baja Bernie: Have no idea why you would post and insinuate such an hypothesis. You are scaring people.
Please consider what you post! Maybe if you have so much time on your hands, you should write another book. Please make it positive.
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Have at it guys. 
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I'm leaning towards cabobaja on this issue. There are all sorts of individual situations. Example: You see a nice car and a guy is leaning up against
it. You like the car! Ask him if he'd sell it. Why sure, he says. You buy it. Jeez! He was only leaning on it. He didn't own it! Simplistic example.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
People are scared about a violent reaction to concentration of wealth in Mexico because they suspect most Mexican males still own a pair of
balls.
Quite possibly a few "females" as well! |
Has the wealth really changed that much? Are you saying one group has suddenly become rich and the other has become poor. I know little of real
Mexico history, I was sure that there has alway been a ruling rich and the rest were poor. I also thought a new middle class has developed. 
Albert G
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DENNIS
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Mexican men dont own their balls. Their wives do. That is the conflict. The mexican culture of Chingoles permits [ doesn't excuse ] their balls to
roll into other courts, which they so often do.
Chingoles --- the culture of betrayel which Malinche originated by taking up with Cortez. A hoar by any standards, then and now.
Mexican culture makes room for infidelity as long as it is kept secret. They just have to make an overture to secrecy that protects the pride of the
little woman at home. If the whole world feels that the man is trying to protect his wife through stealth, that is, protecting her from pain, then
he is an honorable person, especially in his own mind.
Jeezo, what a culture
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DENNIS
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Yeah Al ---
In northern Baja, a large middle class is developing although I dont believe that northern Baja is representitive of Mexico. I think the local
economy is taking on the charachteristics of the northern neighbor.
The concentration of real wealth has wormed its way to the top but, today, there are so many people making a living wage in the northern zone,
adjacent to the U.S.
Another thing which adds to the illusion that Mexicans are making more money is the pure fact that they buy their houses. Although I know, new
institutions are forming, Mexicans pull out their wallets and buy their houses. No mortgage --- no monthly payments. Again, it is an illusion but,
at the end of the month they have more to spend on consumer items.
Just my observations ---- Dennis
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I think the whole Lopez Obrador thing is getting blown out of proportion. To begin with, he is surrounded by a bunch of incredibly incompetent
advisors that have done nothing but sink his movement, and his persona. If you truly want to know whats going to happen, you should pay attention to
some new polls that are coming out. If the elections where held today, Calderon would win by at least 14 percentage points over Obrador, wich means
that a hell of a lot people realize Obrador is not what he appeared to be. Another one, has 73% of all Mexicans saying they do not agree with Lopez
Obradors tactics. And last but not least, the military has sent enough signals to Obrador to make him think twice about starting a little personl
revolution.
People, Obrador will make it interesting, but he has lost too much muscle with his stupid tactics, he has moved out of the mainstream and into the
territory of radicals. Mexico has come out stronger from this, any other developing nation would have seen violence and caos. We took the best
punches from a wannabe Fidel castro, and we held strong and peacefully. Theres an economic theory that once a nation achieves a GDP of 8000 dollars
per capita, it is virtually impossible for it to fall into caos and anarchy, and we are very close to 8,000.
Bet on Mexico, i would, and i am.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The day will come when shots are fired but, it will start from within, not a wave from the south. |
Agreed. Mexico's Southern poor have nothing, never did. Revolution, when it comes, will only succeed if supported by those who have had...and
lost.
When the oil runs out, I'll be long gone. |
No Dave, we will declare Baja a sovereign and free nation, and we will all live happily ever after
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Dave ---
Im not refering to revolution in Mexico. Im talking about an insurgency in the United States. I believe it's inevitable. |
OK Dennis explain your theory on insurgency. If you are referring to the gangs of LA, we have passed legislation to deal with that. There is a wait
and see attitude here on this legislation. I don't get what you mean.
Albert G
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Al G
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| Quote: | | No Dave, we will declare Baja a sovereign and free nation, and we will all live happily ever after |
Damn Jesse, I like you!
Albert G
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I think the whole Lopez Obrador thing is getting blown out of proportion. To begin with, he is surrounded by a bunch of incredibly incompetent
advisors that have done nothing but sink his movement, and his persona. If you truly want to know whats going to happen, you should pay attention to
some new polls that are coming out. If the elections where held today, Calderon would win by at least 14 percentage points over Obrador, wich means
that a hell of a lot people realize Obrador is not what he appeared to be. Another one, has 73% of all Mexicans saying they do not agree with Lopez
Obradors tactics. And last but not least, the military has sent enough signals to Obrador to make him think twice about starting a little personl
revolution.
People, Obrador will make it interesting, but he has lost too much muscle with his stupid tactics, he has moved out of the mainstream and into the
territory of radicals. Mexico has come out stronger from this, any other developing nation would have seen violence and caos. We took the best
punches from a wannabe Fidel castro, and we held strong and peacefully. Theres an economic theory that once a nation achieves a GDP of 8000 dollars
per capita, it is virtually impossible for it to fall into caos and anarchy, and we are very close to 8,000.
Bet on Mexico, i would, and i am. |
I said this already, but you did a much, much better job.
Albert G
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Bernie ----
Mexico is already invading and conquering the U.S.. They are doing that without firing a shot. But, I believe you're right. The day will come
when shots are fired but, it will start from within, not a wave from the south. |
We are? if our leaders could manage to plan and execute a plan of that magnitude, our people would not need to migrate up north and we would have
economies similar to those of nordic nations.
The problems that can put in jeopardy the supremacy of the US in the world, are not coming across the border. They are being spent in bad strategy,
poor understanding of foreign affairs, and a lack of interest of young americans for hard sciences.
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