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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 04:35 PM
Sure, I can...


where do you live?:lol:
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 04:35 PM


I'm glad someone saw the humor there......



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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 04:37 PM


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I am 57 years old and I should not be aloud to drive. I Fail to appreciate the frustration, exasperation, or irritation exhibited by other drivers toward my driving.

I Get lost in familiar places. I cant even find any familiar places.

I Drive against traffic, on the wrong side of the road because it is easer to make left turns

I have difficulty seeing pedestrians, objects, and other vehicles.

I Back up after missing an exit (definite danger).in fact I back up when I don't miss anything.

I Fall asleep while driving or gets drowsy."

and usually when and if I get to where I am going I cant remember why I came or where from. in fact I don't even know who I am and who are all these people.

can any one tell me how to get home ?

[Edited on 10-12-2006 by Bruce R Leech]
Your problem is you don't drink before you drive.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 04:37 PM


Man...I gotta go buy some beer to keep this up
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I'll be back




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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 04:55 PM


who are you people and why am I here?


where is Here anyway?




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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 05:10 PM


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who are you people and why am I here?


where is Here anyway?
You should run for president.:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 05:24 PM


So way back when this thread was about caravans, I was trying to get the point across that many times on this thread it's only the tourists that are thought about and mostly the locals are ignored...I'm trying to say that while you think it's easy to go out and buy a CB radio etc. most locals can't do that but it's the locals who have to deal with the darn dangerous and downright bothersome caravans. It's great you who are on baja time and not in a hurry but lots of local people have to get to a doctors appointment in Sta.Rosalia or Guerrero Negro and don't really want to waste an hour trying to pass a crapload of RV's and believe me they get kinda peeed when they pull up to the pumps and no gas is left. I truly think there should be some regulating as to size of convoys.



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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 05:40 PM
Huh?


What do mean Mexicans can't afford CBs? They are bursting with disposable income. Hello! They fish for lobster! Lobster is like, $20 a pound! You figure a CB is like, $100...that's what, 2 or 3 (small) lobsters! Meanwhile, I'm working my tushy off in California to pay rent and score a new iPod.

Am I the ONLY PERSON on this site who really knows Baja???!!!!! Jeez!
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 05:49 PM


I had 3 good CBs for sale cheep for 3 years and finally I put all of them in one bundle for 100 pesos and still no takers finally I gave them away and the person still did not want them. no one uses them here they all want 2 meters or VHF.:lol:



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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 05:52 PM


Big Zag... Your starting to score fewer and fewer points.
There may be a few as you describe, but very few.
I do not know you well, but your claimto (edit)Know) Baja, is on shaky ground to the point of unbelievable.
I will admit I do not know Baja well.

[Edited on 10-13-2006 by Al G]




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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:15 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!


Maybe I really need to start using those smiley icons more, as if to say, "I AM KIDDING." Wow, this place does irony like Baja does Vietnamese food.

Anyway, I'm no Baja-ologist - and certainly can't ID a pile of stones as Mission #72 David K style - but I understand that the people of Baja are short on pesos and was, in fact, JOKING when I said catching a few lobsters could pay for a CB and joking (http://webster.com/dictionary/joke) when I suggested they have an abundance of disposable cash.

Also, the lunar landing was not faked on earth.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:34 PM


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Maybe I really need to start using those smiley icons more, as if to say, "I AM KIDDING." Wow, this place does irony like Baja does Vietnamese food.


:lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, you gotta use the icons. I knew you were joking, but I've read more outrageous stuff here from people who were NOT kidding. :biggrin:

Now if somehow we could just toss some of the lobsters out on the roadside in front of the caravans, they might stop and pull over. I think I'll work on a rocket-propelled lobster grenade.

(Notice the last statement had no icons. So I'm serious about that part). Really. Yes.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:41 PM


" I think I'll work on a rocket-propelled lobster grenade. "
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:48 PM
What?


a "rocket propelled lobster grenade?" Even if you COULD make such a device (which you CAN'T), I seriously doubt it would have any effect in stopping large RV caravans. At best, maybe one would pull over, at WORST you could seriously injure a driver and - possibly - cause a very dangerous pile-up.

You must not know a single thing about Baja.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:53 PM


You forgot the:lol::lol::lol::lol::P



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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 06:56 PM


And I forgot to say shoot a langusta at me and see how fast I stop..............................Bang you rearended me didn't you!
:lol::lol::P:lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 10-12-2006 at 11:55 PM


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I had 3 good CBs for sale cheep for 3 years and finally I put all of them in one bundle for 100 pesos and still no takers finally I gave them away and the person still did not want them. no one uses them here they all want 2 meters or VHF.:lol:


You shoulda tried the truckers, Bruce. Half of them run CBs. We talk to them all the time when they want to get by our caravans.
Heck, even the dock workers at the La Paz ferry dock use CBs instead of VHFs.
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[*] posted on 10-13-2006 at 09:33 AM


Yeah, those caravans are antiquated, for sure. Thirty years ago travelers would drive down in groups in case of a breakdown and help one another out. We were all encouraged to bring just about every spare vehicle part, "just in case". But now baja has far more services and there is really no reason for them (caravans, that is).

Travelling with friends doesn't really mean you need to caravan.
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I had 3 good CBs for sale cheep for 3 years and finally I put all of them in one bundle for 100 pesos and still no takers finally I gave them away and the person still did not want them. no one uses them here they all want 2 meters or VHF.:lol:


You shoulda tried the truckers, Bruce. Half of them run CBs. We talk to them all the time when they want to get by our caravans.
Heck, even the dock workers at the La Paz ferry dock use CBs instead of VHFs.
:yes:

Is there other means of contact besides CB?
Also thanks for the u2u. It is reassuring to know all of the caravan industry understands our concerns and are working on solutions. I think Shari's concerns are of great importance. A backlash by the locals could affect all of us as we will be lumped together as Americans




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[*] posted on 10-13-2006 at 12:09 PM


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So way back when this thread was about caravans, I was trying to get the point across that many times on this thread it's only the tourists that are thought about and mostly the locals are ignored...I'm trying to say that while you think it's easy to go out and buy a CB radio etc. most locals can't do that but it's the locals who have to deal with the darn dangerous and downright bothersome caravans. It's great you who are on baja time and not in a hurry but lots of local people have to get to a doctors appointment in Sta.Rosalia or Guerrero Negro and don't really want to waste an hour trying to pass a crapload of RV's and believe me they get kinda peeed when they pull up to the pumps and no gas is left. I truly think there should be some regulating as to size of convoys.


Shari, you may not have noticed yet, but there is regulation - self regulation.

The caravan industry knows how you & many others feel & all the operators are taking steps now to minimize their local impact. We aren't stupid. The big companies are, since last season, splitting up their caravans into 2 or 3 sections, leaving hours apart. You wont likely see lumbering strings of 25 or 30 rigs on Mex 1 anymore. They are planning fuel stops at truckstop Pemexes in larger towns. People like BajaCactus are planning ahead for us. (Hey, Antonio U2U me & I will send you our schedule!)

We have always limited our caravans to 15 guests. I currently have a waiting list, but won't tack on more rigs because I care as much about Baja & it's future as I care about my pocketbook.

I have a list of every pullout big enough for 15 rigs from TJ to Cabo & we use them frequently to let ABC buses & truckers by. This is a priority with us.

We, a small company, inject close to $100K into the local economy each year. We encourage our guests to buy from beach vendors, shop in local markets, go out to supper & shell out for every side activity we can find. Your Don Martin & the BJ Ejido benefit from our coming thru GN. We strongly discourage guests from stocking up to the gunnels before leaving San Diego & spend the bucks down here instead.

So, you can imagine how many dollars the big companies bring to Baja & Mexico. Tourism is Mexico's 2nd largest industry.

More folks take caravans & rallies for the social aspect than out of fear. 2/3 of our guests say they would have vacationed at home rather than coming to Mexico if there were no caravans!

Will caravans go away? Not a chance. They are part of the same wave as Rosarito beach, Loreto Bay & Puerto Los Cabos. Unfortunately, Baja is changing with the rest of the world, but will always have more magic than anywhere else!
That's why you came - others will too.



Hope this helps foster a wee bit of understanding & beneficial coexistence.
Anybody have helpful suggestions for the caravan industry, other than "Go away", please contact me.
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[Edited on 10-13-2006 by Baja&Back]

[Edited on 10-13-2006 by Baja&Back]




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