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Any instructions for roasting green beans on a gas stove?
I am here in Mulege for 3 months, and have gone through half of my awesome beans that I brought with me from Wisconsin (roasted, then frozen... not as
good as fresh, but the only thing I could manage).
I'll be in the San Diego area over Christmas. Anyone know where can I get green beans up there?
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tanzbodeli
Any instructions for roasting green beans on a gas stove?
I am here in Mulege for 3 months, and have gone through half of my awesome beans that I brought with me from Wisconsin (roasted, then frozen... not as
good as fresh, but the only thing I could manage).
I'll be in the San Diego area over Christmas. Anyone know where can I get green beans up there? |
Gas stove outside? Fine. Inside, you'll have smoke and smell and if enough ventilation, you'll survive.
Green beans are difficult to find in stores. I couldn't find any in SD, San Clemente, or Dana Point/Laguna Niguel recently. If you found a
store, coffee would be limited.
I recommend buying online and having it shipped to where you'll be in SD.
Try here: http://www.coffeebeancorral.com/
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Green coffee beans available in CCC La Paz, Its much better to roast outside, you will make all of your neighbors wonder about the smell. It will
cover the whole area.
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Dave
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It ain't rocket science
| Quote: | Originally posted by tanzbodeli
Any instructions for roasting green beans on a gas stove?
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ROASTING:
Get the pan good and hot, throw in some beans and constantly shake/stir until it's as dark as you like.
COOLING:
Throw the roasted coffee in another pan, (I like to use a colander) and toss until it's cooled enough so the roasting has stopped. If you do this
outside in a breeze the chaff will separate.
GRINDING:
A cheap blade grinder will do just fine. Just pulse for a few seconds, stop and shake, (holding the lid down  ) then pulse some more. For those that want to hand grind, use a molcajete... Cheap!
BREWING:
My favorite is an Italian moka pot. You can spend over $100 or you can go to Ikea and get one for less than $20.
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Not for rocket scientists but it is a science
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
ROASTING:
Get the pan good and hot, throw in some beans and constantly shake/stir until it's as dark as you like.
COOLING:
Throw the roasted coffee in another pan, (I like to use a colander) and toss until it's cooled enough so the roasting has stopped. If you do this
outside in a breeze the chaff will separate.
GRINDING:
A cheap blade grinder will do just fine. Just pulse for a few seconds, stop and shake, (holding the lid down ) then pulse some more. For those that want to hand grind, use a molcajete... Cheap!
BREWING:
My favorite is an Italian moka pot. You can spend over $100 or you can go to Ikea and get one for less than $20. |
It's OK to listen to Dave but listen to me first.
Roasting: if you're roasting in a ''heavy'' skillet, start with medium heat. Not hot. You don't want to burn the beans, but brown them. If
they get scortch, you won't want to drink the coffee -- and then again, it might be your preference.
Cooling: listen to Dave.
Grinding: a cheap whirly blade grinder is fine if you're desparate. If you want to do it correctly, get a conical burr grinder. Not cheap but
if you ground the beans the cheap way, then the correct way, you'd know the difference.... esp. if you wanted a fine grind -- which is NOT possible
with a blade grinder. (Blade grinders were meant to chop veggies but most people don't know that.)
Brewing: whatever your preference is. Moka pots are great but put out a very strong coffee. If you like drip brew, you won't like a moka pot.
(Moka pots force water up from the bottom by pressure forcing the water out the top of the pot. Personally, it's a better method of extracting
flavor than drip but to each their own.)
If you do like it strong, nothing beats a moka pot.
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We bought a mocha pot at SuperAmerica in Cuidad Constitution for less than $10.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
We bought a mocha pot at SuperAmerica in Cuidad Constitution for less than $10. |
Not all moka pots are the same.
The best (Bialetti) is Italian, like Dave uses, probablly, and cost about $30.
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jerry
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now i remember why i dont drink coffee
its too complacated
and then it keeps me awake all day
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Bruce R Leech
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not to be difficult but the water temp is also important but will very with the type of brewing method. about 185 deg f for drip 280 or more for
espresso.
and the amount of time the hot water is on the grounds. 10 seconds for espresso as quick as possible for drip etc.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
not to be difficult but the water temp is also important but will very with the type of brewing method. about 185 deg f for drip 280 or more for
espresso.
and the amount of time the hot water is on the grounds. 10 seconds for espresso as quick as possible for drip etc. |
Yup, and if the shot is more than an ounce, it's not restretto.
Good Bruce. Sounds like you know your stuff.
What kind of equipment do you/have you used?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
not to be difficult but the water temp is also important but will very with the type of brewing method. about 185 deg f for drip 280 or more for
espresso.
and the amount of time the hot water is on the grounds. 10 seconds for espresso as quick as possible for drip etc. |
Yup, and if the shot is more than an ounce, it's not restretto.
Good Bruce. Sounds like you know your stuff.
What kind of equipment do you/have you used?
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Brasilia Portofino all Italian it is the best you can get but not cheep.
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Bruce R Leech
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Here is one
http://www.brasilia.it/en/bar-line/portofino-restyling.htm
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Bob and Susan
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Luwak Coffee
(Cat Poop Coffee)
The Luwak from the coffee plantations of Java, and Sumatra, eats only the ripest coffee cherries.
Unable to digest the coffee beans, the Luwak deposits them on the jungle floor where they are collected by the locals.
The stomach acids and enzymatic action involved in this unique fermentation process produces the beans for the world’s rarest and greatest coffee.
Has anyone had this stuff??
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"The stomach acids and enzymatic action involved in this unique fermentation process produces the beans for the world’s rarest and greatest coffee."
So do you roast these beans or just use 'em green??
edited for clarity
[Edited on 12-7-2006 by Paula]
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Luwak Coffee
(Cat Poop Coffee)
The Luwak from the coffee plantations of Java, and Sumatra, eats only the ripest coffee cherries.
Unable to digest the coffee beans, the Luwak deposits them on the jungle floor where they are collected by the locals.
The stomach acids and enzymatic action involved in this unique fermentation process produces the beans for the world’s rarest and greatest coffee.
Has anyone had this stuff?? |
just let me know how it is
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jerry
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i heard its really good chit
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ah, dem beans
Sure are popular. I've seen those little turds but I always thought they were from rabbits.
Cafe' rabbito anyone?
Bruce, quit showing off!
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smart pills lol
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
It's OK to listen to Dave but listen to me first.
Roasting: if you're roasting in a ''heavy'' skillet, start with medium heat. Not hot. You don't want to burn the beans, but brown them. If
they get scortch, you won't want to drink the coffee -- and then again, it might be your preference.
Cooling: listen to Dave.
Grinding: a cheap whirly blade grinder is fine if you're desparate. If you want to do it correctly, get a conical burr grinder. Not cheap but
if you ground the beans the cheap way, then the correct way, you'd know the difference.... esp. if you wanted a fine grind -- which is NOT possible
with a blade grinder. (Blade grinders were meant to chop veggies but most people don't know that.)
Brewing: whatever your preference is. Moka pots are great but put out a very strong coffee. If you like drip brew, you won't like a moka pot.
(Moka pots force water up from the bottom by pressure forcing the water out the top of the pot. Personally, it's a better method of extracting
flavor than drip but to each their own.)
If you do like it strong, nothing beats a moka pot.
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It's all relative. You can spend ages researching coffee and spend thousands in equipment trying to get a great cup. And then what you consider to be
great won't be to the next person. All I'm saying is that a good cup of coffee doesn't have to be a complicated or expensive process.
Simply fresh roasting and getting it ground, brewed and in the cup is way better than starting with store bought roasted bean or ground
coffee. More attention to the roast, grind and brew would be better still. Unless you're obsessive-compulsive at some point you have to decide that
good coffee is enough. I'm just trying to explain what I consider to be of prime importance and at minimal time expenditure and cost.
At the deli we use a computerized cafe roaster, the best grinders and manual two group lever machine. To reproduce what we use would cost about 6k.
It's a great cup but I can come pretty close to the same for less than $50 in equipment. One of the best cups I ever had was at a coffee plantation in
Chiapas. Beans were pan roasted over an open fire, ground in a molcajete , thrown into a coffee can with water and boiled up. High tech, no?
Mokas and blade grinders:
I can get a true espresso grind out of a cheap grinder. I have expensive Mokas but I can tell no difference between them and the
cheapies. And by varying the brewing time, grind and adding water you can get a weaker brew.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
not to be difficult but the water temp is also important but will very with the type of brewing method. about 185 deg f for drip 280 or more for
espresso.
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How do you get 280 deg. water temp? |
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