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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Wrap this guys attitude up with what Shari says and you will probably come up with a clear picture as to why what happened happened. Talk about
rocking the boat. I cannot imagine walking into a Mexican police station and demanding anything. He probably then went to all sorts of different
officials with various accusations. He had the opposite of Pizza Insurance, more like a big red bullseye. |
I am begin to think you are right. I cant verify anything here except that the Gringo gazette published their story which doesn't mean anything
because they will print any good story with firs verifying it. I was hoping Doug would come up with something but I guess he is having about as good
of luck as I have. If there is any truth in there original post then they made many mistakes. and with out any more info I would say that it is a
typical case of a person coming from the USA and starting a big project with out any good advice or listening to anyone. I have seen this many times
in the years I have been in Mexico and with similar results. these people make up there own rules and expect Mexico to fallow them.
I take grate offense to there opening paragraph.
Make no mistake about it. Mexico is a lawless land that shields itself from the true reality of who and what it is by promoting beautiful vacation
spots and low priced housing properties to lure unsuspecting Americans while sponsoring many United States newspapers, television and radio stations
with their unlimited financial resources supported by the drug cartels, and the backbone of the country which is the Mexican mafia. All of which is
enforced by the unscrupulous police and political officials who work for them by prowling the streets targeting unaware Americans, known as Gringo’s
to them or walking wallets of cash.
as they found out Mexico dose have laws and some times very creative was of using them.
at this point I am going to withdraw my offer to help Doc . and declare this whole thing a Hoax. this is the second time this week that I have been
had but the gringo Gazette got it to so I feel better
Bruce R Leech
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aquaholic
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SACKMASTER: The whole reason for this forum is that the participants ALL LOVE spending time in Baja. To start an entry by bashing Mexico/Baja, gets
off on the wrong foot. Most of those on this forum would do anything to help in any way possible if someone has a problem, but we need to know the
details of the problem we're helping with. Swatting the hornet's nest and then expecting the hornets to make nice isn't going to work with many around
here...
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Sackmaster
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
at this point I am going to withdraw my offer to help Doc . and declare this whole thing a Hoax. this is the second time this week that I have been
had but the gringo Gazette got it to so I feel better |
San Diego's KGTV (10 NEWS) Rett Lawrence, an ABC network affiliate broadcaster, did a story on Ted, the author of this threads thread starter. And now
Mr. Lawrence has a bounty on his head. Meaning that there are some Mexican national officials who would like to see Mr. Lawrence dead for having
broadcast Ted's story.
KFMB 760AM's Rick Roberts, who did a series of stories on the Donald Kraft tragedy, has stated in public that he too has a bounty on his head, as
mandated by certain Mexican national "officials."
If you even utter the name "Donald Kraft" around a Mexican national tourist representative, you will be immediately ostracized out of the room, to say
the least.  
http://www.10news.com/digitalcorrespondents/10019682/detail....
http://www.americanpatrol.com/TRAVEL/kraftdies990906.html
http://www.americanpatrol.com/TRAVEL/UScrashvitimsransom9911...
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bajalou
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Bruce asked about 10 very specific questions - answering these questions to all of the posters on this board makes lots more sense that everyone on it
calling to find out the answers. When you "Go Public" with something, you need to answer the questions in public also.
No Bad Days
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Minnow
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Maybe Ted can take the time to answer one question here.
Did he have and FM3?
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Bruce asked about 10 very specific questions - answering these questions to all of the posters on this board makes lots more sense that everyone on it
calling to find out the answers. When you "Go Public" with something, you need to answer the questions in public also. |
Exactly. Seems like he does not like those questions, so they invented 20,000 more that were not asked.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Cypress
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My sympathy goes out to docthaddeus. He's definitely got problems, either real, imagined or fabricated. Whatever the case may be?
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Minnow
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Cypress, I really believe all this stuff happened. It is a shame, especially the rape of his daughter. I don't want to say he brought it on himself,
However the circumstances surrounding it seem strange. I remember reading in the gringo the story of the first breakin. I don't remember reading
about the rape though.
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fdt
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All in all I still prefer the Bill Kitto story
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Sackmaster
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aquaholic
SACKMASTER: The whole reason for this forum is that the participants ALL LOVE spending time in Baja. To start an entry by bashing Mexico/Baja, gets
off on the wrong foot. Most of those on this forum would do anything to help in any way possible if someone has a problem, but we need to know the
details of the problem we're helping with. Swatting the hornet's nest and then expecting the hornets to make nice isn't going to work with many around
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Wow. Whatta riposte. Especially considering that Ted's daughter was raped. I guess you expect Ted's first post should be about where one can expect to
find the nicest coffee shops in Tijuana. Would that have been the proper way for Ted to approach the board? 
I love the time that I spend in Baja, too. But I'm not blinded by love!
A person like you is looking for signs of credibility from a person like Ted, right? And to you someone would have alot more credibility if they had a
post count of 500. Or 1000. Or maybe more. That's how it is in discussion forums, the more posts you have, the more credible you are in the world of
Cyberspace discussion forums. In reality that form of credibility is about as effective as using a crystal ball to predict the next large earthquake
that destroys half of San Francisco.
Let me explain something about Ted. Ted is a newbie to the world of Internet discussion forums. The word "newbie" originated in the world of
Cyberspace. It's used to define people like Ted or anyone new to computers or computer related entities. I saw Ted's narrative on Craigslist a few
days ago, and as someone who has an interest in the Tijuana area, I decided to give Ted a call. I forwarded the link to this forum to Ted via email.
And it was then that I found out that he had never been in a discussion forum before. I learned that he was not aware of the following terms that we
all take for granted:
--"newbie"
--"thread"
--"thread starter"
--"post"
--"post count"
--"hijacking a thread"
--"username"
--"flame" or "flaming"
For the people out there who are snickering and feeling smug I say this: Every day thousands if not millions of people log onto the Internet for their
very first time. So lets all be cognizant of that and do what we can to help get these rookies get up to speed, okay? Because it's the Internet and
the Internet rocks. You rock it and I rock it, we all rock it. Hopefully for the better. And because we were all dummies at one time or another. Hell,
I'm still a dummy in a few departments of computer operation.
As for your comments, Aquaholic, I say this:
--if you're perturbed by the dire nature of this thread, and you're looking for a halcyonic thread that plays dance music, serves up champagne and
smells like roses, just hit the back browser button on your computer and go to another thread. Why come into this thread to chastise a man who's
graying, who's in the last stage of his life going downhill faster than a young buck wearing track shoes, has lost all of his worldly possessions, and
whose daughter was raped with the complicity of the Mexican police? That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. What are you thinking?
--based on what you said, Aquaholic, I predict this thread to soon be deleted and wiped off the face of the map. There are some people who have a
monetary interest in Baja, and they may exert pressure on the webmaster to kill this thread and wipe it out of existence. I fully expect that to
happen. Just my humble opinon, folks, and of course I might be wrong.
Meaning that I can't tell you for sure if the San Diego Chargers are going to go all the way to the Super Bowl in Miami in Feburary of 2007. Sorry.
Now, in speaking to Ted I know that there's one thing that he'd like to know, something that I can't help him answer. Maybe there's a lawyer out there
who's experienced with international law that can help Ted answer this question, a question that he'd really appreciate an answer to:
Would it be possible for Ted to sue the Mexican government using an American lawyer here in the United States to help recover some of his lost assets?
If any of you can give him an answer to that question, it would be of great help, I'm sure. 
[Edited on 12-19-2006 by Sackmaster]
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Cypress
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Sue the same govt. that's guilty of all those accusations? You bet! Expect the lawyers will be fighting over that gravey train!
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Bajagypsy
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Sackmaster,
I have not found that the number of posts a person has is a sign of credibility, it is the content of the posts, and the tone that it is posted.
Since you seem to have so much knowledge of the situation, maybe you could anwer some of the nomads questions, as it appears, that you are not
burdened with having to use a snail like dial up connection.
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Cincodemayo
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Talking about credibility...What does Sackmaster refer to?
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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DianaT
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Interesting
My first reactions to the first post were--
1. Blame the victim---something I hate so I tried to not do that
2. Dismiss it all as crap----too easy to do
3. Wonder about how he conducted business---legal or not
What keeps coming back to me now is why no answer to only the one question----FM3
I would still like to think that the violence that happened was not real---no one, no matter what deserves that.
As usual, Bruce was so willing to jump in and help, so why were the questions not answered? And to assume that just anyone can call is not
reasonable. For Bruce and some of the others who live in Baja, who could have been of assistance, it is not a local call.
Over and over I have seen people on the board go out of their way to help others in need, but it can't be a one-way transaction.
I sincerely hope it all works out well.
Diane
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajagypsy
Sackmaster,
I have not found that the number of posts a person has is a sign of credibility, it is the content of the posts, and the tone that it is posted.
Since you seem to have so much knowledge of the situation, maybe you could anwer some of the nomads questions, as it appears, that you are not
burdened with having to use a snail like dial up connection. |
Ya, I was hoping the same. This board seems to have more than it's share of flamers and wisecrackers. Please tell Thadieus not to take it personally.
Just ignore it.
Sackmaster, I applaud you for stepping up in defense of this man. I too love Baja but feel it's important to know when things like this happen.
Please excuse the skepticism and enlighten us with any factual information you may have. It's possible that some mutually beneficial information may
surface.
[Edited on 12-19-2006 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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k1w1
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sock puppet
sackmeister, you forgot the one applicable forum term: sock puppet! seee ya
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comitan
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My reply to all of this is that the man did not follow the laws of Mexico and he lost now he is bitter, that is what I will believe unless proven
otherwise. Hearsay is hearsay.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bruce R Leech
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all we can comment on is speculation unless we are given facts. when this person refuses Help and wont provide any facts I think he loses all
creditability. he forced this thread in this direction and he has the ability to turn it around and get some good help.
Bruce R Leech
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Sackmaster
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
Ya, I was hoping the same. This board seems to have more than it's share of flamers and wisecrackers. Please tell Thadieus not to take it personally.
Just ignore it.
Sackmaster, I applaud you for stepping up in defense of this man. I too love Baja but feel it's important to know when things like this happen.
Please excuse the skepticism and enlighten us with any factual information you may have. It's possible that some mutually beneficial information may
surface.
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I'll be talking to him again tonight and when I do I'll tell him to check in on his thread. Wether or not he chooses to do so is up to him. He has
some good stories to share. He lived in Playas for one year in a killer apartment that overlooked the ocean before he moved to Rosarito Beach.
You should ask him about the time he was in his car (or truck, i can't remember which) and a pizza delivery driver on a motorcycle came from out of
nowhere and nailed the side of his car. The cops all came from out of the woodwork to implicate him for "wrongdoing." It was on the road that runs
right next to the boardwalk in Playas, near the Tijuana bullring.
Or the time he was driving in his car with his woman and the Mexican cops pulled him over to the side of the road. They ordered his woman to get out
of the car and come sit in the police car. They then told Ted that they wanted 50 bucks from him or they would take his woman to jail. They hadn't
done anything wrong. There was no need for the cops to take his woman away, albeit temporarily. And there was no need for them to have pulled him over
in the first place, other than for "driving while American." As someone who has spent alot of time driving around TJ, I know how that goes, what to
expect, and how to handle that type of situation. 
I wouldn't blame Ted if he doesn't come back to this thread. Especially when you have people dishing out idiotic assertions about things like "sock
puppets" and whatnot. I actually told Ted to that if I registered and came on board to share a few anecdotes that someone here would accuse me of
being the real life Ted, to give himself support. They would assert this because I have only a few posts under my belt, just like Ted. People smell a
rat when that happens, I've seen that happen many times before in a discussion forum. I'm not dismissing the application of that suspicion, as in some
cases it is very much warranted. And sometimes that rat is real, while at other times like this one, the rat is a figment of their imagination. And in
this case that would be a poster who calls themself "k1w1."
Sock puppet...lol!!!
Like I told Ted,
"You might gain some good info by posting your lengthy narrative in an Internet discussion forum, or it might be a complete waste of time. There's
alot of junk, idiocy and bad behavor that can manifest itself in a thread. Sometimes it's a little like a virtual gangfight. And that's just a waste
of time! Since all you have to do is copy and paste your thread starter to a page, you might as well give it a shot, stand back and see what happens.
You never know, someone might read it a year from now and provide you with something useful. Even if the results aren't favorable to you personally,
you just might help another person out. That person might be a forum member or a lurker looking in on the thread from Nebraska. I'll be watching the
threads progression from a distance." I had to tell Ted what a lurker was. No big deal, at one time I didn't know what a lurker was either. 
It wasn't until I saw everyone b-tching about his inattention to this thread that I felt compelled to remind people that the man was big enough--or
crazy enough--to post his real phone number. The same people who were overlooking the fact that his daughter was raped. The same people who were
overlooking the fact that a local television station, an ABC network affiliate, featured his story on local TV here in San Diego.
In an earlier post I made note of the lack of empathy some of you were displaying. I'll have to stop and pause for a moment and administer a little
empathy of my own. Having said that, I'm sure alot of you are disappointed about Ted not answering all of your many questions. Give him time, maybe
he'll get back to this thread when he's able to. But you can't expect him to answer all of them because in checking this thread there are a ton of
them to be answered. The question about his FM-3 status is a very good question. If I was in your shoes, I too would want some answers!! Here's his
phone number that he posted in his thread starter for those who are curious and want instantaneous / direct communication to the man himself:
(619) 723-6600
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppet
[Edited on 12-19-2006 by Sackmaster]
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Bruce R Leech
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all I did is try to help him and he would not even answer my emails. why dose he keep shooting him self in the foot? he dose his best to look like a
scam so some people think it is. I bit on his hook and found out what he was really after.
He tells a good story but he wont back it up.
[Edited on 12-19-2006 by Bruce R Leech]
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