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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:12 AM


Taco, I had to make the wise crack, it's my nature.

I have a job in Mexico and make in one hour what others make in one day. ;) Not to confuse the issue.




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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:12 AM


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The Looney Tunes Lefties are destined to disappointment. Nobody is going to be impeached and it is tearing at their Liberal souls. Wait. Scratch that. The dedicated Libs don't believe in the Soul. Anyway, their going to me miserable because Bush and/or Cheney aren't going to join Wanker Willie in the Dock. Let them rattle, though, it is cathartic and they aren't affecting anything.

It should be mentioned, however, in this Debate over Good and Evil (Politicians, that is) that the same polls who show GWB approval in the low 30s (Cheney 40s) among the American people also show Congress as a whole at an all-time low of 15 percent . Even more interesting is that they show the Head Dems, King Harry and Nasty Nancy, below 20 percent approval. Based on what the American people think, I guess we should be pushing for the Dark Duo to be thrown out of Congress.

Speaking of Saint Anne, she is honest about her approach to controversy. When Bill O'Reilly asked her if she didn't think that the Edwards comments had backfired because he was raising a lot of money based on her attack, she said "No, because I'm making a lot more money off of it than he is".

Love that Gal.


Thank you MrBill. Now I remember why I have avoided all political topics in the past and will again withdraw. Name calling, distorted representations that simply mimic the hate mongers close the door on any intelligent and reasonable debate.


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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:17 AM


"The Looney Tunes Lefties are destined to disappointment."

Looney Tunes are one of my favorite things. In fact I have them on DVD and watch them instead of the evening news.

"destined" Oh, really! Do you believe in such a thing?



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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:26 AM


WHERE'S THE FENCE?:!:



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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:35 AM


At the border:!:



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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:42 AM
Enjoying Looney Tunes ?


Well, that says it all, I guess. Nothing I can add to that

Wishing for a return to youthful innocence ? Or just avoiding dealing with the present ? By all means, avoid the news and form your opinions without input.


From Diane:

Thank you MrBill. Now I remember why I have avoided all political topics in the past and will again withdraw. Name calling, distorted representations that simply mimic the hate mongers close the door on any intelligent and reasonable debate.
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I'm assuming from the above that Diane detests Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnel, Whoopi and the other Leftwing name-callers in "Hoolywood" and DC.

Sure.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:49 AM


http://www.wheresthefence.com/StateAds.htm



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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 09:53 AM


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By all means, avoid the news and form your opinions without


Oh come on, I watch the PBS news hour every night. However, Looney Tunes are the best cartoons ever made.




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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 10:45 AM


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WHERE'S THE FENCE?:!:
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 11:12 AM


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Thank you MrBill. Now I remember why I have avoided all political topics in the past and will again withdraw. Name calling, distorted representations that simply mimic the hate mongers close the door on any intelligent and reasonable debate.


Diane

Stick around, Diane. You have a lot to say. MrBill is just being MrBill. He's kinda like a rock in your shoe. When it gets too annoying, sit down, shake it out and carry on but, don't throw the shoes away.
If "point - counter point" discussion is at all useful, MrBill is a good one to spar with. Under all his John Birch Society nastiness, he hides a lot of knowledge and has no reluctance to share.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 12:08 PM


I see currently Harry Reid is favorable at just 19%....Right down there with good 'ol Scooter.....:lol: Heck, Cheney's favorable rating is TWICE that....

Rasmussen

I am sure, but did not look too hard for it on Rasmussen ( :) ) that all the 12 "Grand Bargainers" Reid, Feinstein, Kennedy, Kyl, Graham, et al….have had their favorable ratings drop over this bill. In addition, McCain is now probably DOA as a presidential candidate…..




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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 12:29 PM


This whole immigration issue has turned into a bad joke.:lol: Just enforce the laws that are already on the books.:light: It's a sad reflection on the so-called elected leaders in Washington DC.:no:
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 03:38 PM


Who are the Looney Tunes?

Those of us who look around and see people all around us who may or may not be "illegal immigrants" - and say "Let's do something constructive to make this economically fair to everyone."

...or the Conservatives who say "let's enforce laws" - which are inherently flawed and unenforceable and UNenforced for too many reasons to be listed in one posting.

Face it: there is NO FENCE long enough, strong enough, high enough, or dangerous enough to keep people out if they think they have half a chance of a better life in the US.

Face it: there is no governmental entity which has the organizational resources and skills to round everyone up that violate the laws, and

Anyone who thinks that "a law" is going to change the borders, or who crosses them, and when, is not dealing with reality.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 03:46 PM


Your right. The fence, as a barrier to illegl immigration, is a joke. It won't work but, that's not the point. My point is that the fence was ordered by law and the law is being ignored by the government. They have to do what the laws says they have to do. I do what the law says I have to do, so should the president.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 04:18 PM


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Who are the Looney Tunes?

Those of us who look around and see people all around us who may or may not be "illegal immigrants" - and say "Let's do something constructive to make this economically fair to everyone."

...or the Conservatives who say "let's enforce laws" - which are inherently flawed and unenforceable and UNenforced for too many reasons to be listed in one posting.

Face it: there is NO FENCE long enough, strong enough, high enough, or dangerous enough to keep people out if they think they have half a chance of a better life in the US.

Face it: there is no governmental entity which has the organizational resources and skills to round everyone up that violate the laws, and

Anyone who thinks that "a law" is going to change the borders, or who crosses them, and when, is not dealing with reality.


Following this logic, all the prisons in the US should be emptied, because bad people are going to do bad things and there aren't enough resources to stop them.

Pasadena has so many asylum escapees these days, one hardly knows about one's safety.




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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 05:46 PM


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Who are the Looney Tunes?


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[*] posted on 6-29-2007 at 05:54 PM


Looney Tunes....... For kids of all ages. You can tell by the pistol in the bottom of the picture.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2007 at 05:31 AM


That's not a pistol, it's a hydraulic space modulator, jeez.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2007 at 07:54 AM


Where's the fence?

I happen to like watching t.v. and admit it...there was a great show on HBO featuring Penn and Teller - called BullSh*t - and they identify and mock things like, "the fence."

They hired 4 Mexicans to build a fence to the same specifications as the border fence. Then, they handed each man a wire clipper and told one to go over, one to go around, one to go under and one to go through the fence - like a race.

They each finished in less than 3 minutes in this order: around, over, under, through.

is building "a fence" really how you want your tax dollars to be spent?

btw, I LOVE the humor and opinions on this posting...very smart and very funny.

mucho mas besos y abrazos no matter whether or not you are a Looney Tune...I prefer Fractured Fairytales myself but....
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[*] posted on 6-30-2007 at 08:56 AM


There are no specs for a border fence. If you look at the fence at TJ it is different that the one at Tecate and Mexicali. Any specs will be made when the job is being put to bid. A physical fence would most likely be placed in areas of population such as near cities and a virtual fence, meaning sensors, cameras, drones, etc. in the more remote areas. Any barrier that slows the crossers down and/or IDs their location so they may be picked up I think is the objective. Short of a barrier that would kill someone near it, you cannot stop someone from getting pass it. To slow down the attemps the job market needs to be slowed down. Enforce the existing laws ie: nail the employer who hires them and the border problem becomes much easier to control. O tolerance on anyone hiring an illegal, be it a farmer, factory, business of any kind or individual, and see how quick the problem goes away.
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