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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:05 PM


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In his particular case, he may have paid someone to fill out the form for the FMT. However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

The 50 pesos wasn't a multa. It was Carlos' fee. I know Carlos. Carlos won't do anything for nothing. He charged my buddy 50 pesos.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:08 PM


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My understanding has been that it's 3 days in the so called "Free Zone" without FMT, up to 7 days with a FMT but requires no payment.

Has that been changed?

I don't know, Lou. These interpretations are really getting convoluted. I can't imagine an FMT that required no payment.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:10 PM


It seems like you're saying an FMT is needed in Ensenada. Up till about a year ago when they remodeled the office there, it was a snap to get one. Then with the installation of the banercito inside it made it convienient to pay the necessary regular fee. They used to let you pay later elsewhere. Then six months later they made you go to a bank in town and return with receipt before issuing an FMT. The last time I was in there getting one they told me that I'd have to wait 2 hrs for some reason. I says ok. About ten minutes later they called me to the window and bam, had one. They are sooooo inconsistant. There is one hardbutt in there but if you can speak a little Spanish....;D



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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:18 PM


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There is one hardbutt in there but if you can speak a little Spanish....;D

Maybe more than one. I've been in there numerous times and it reminds me of the Soup N-zi episode on Sienfeld. The slightest mistake and, "No soup for you."
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:26 PM


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In his particular case, he may have paid someone to fill out the form for the FMT. However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

The 50 pesos wasn't a multa. It was Carlos' fee. I know Carlos. Carlos won't do anything for nothing. He charged my buddy 50 pesos.


Dennis: You need to take a breath and correctly read what I said. Once again, read this slowly.

In this particular case your friend paid Carlos to fill out the form. HOWEVER, there is a FINE, MULTO of 50 pesos for not having an FMT upon arrival the office of Immigration in Ensenada. Perhaps, maybe, he didn't see that extra 50 pesos when he paid for the FMT after he paid Carlos since he was upset.

Dennis here's a great site for you to check out:

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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:39 PM


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However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

I love facts. :biggrin:

Fact: "Multas" must be paid at a bank and you are given a receipt. This does not sound like the case described by Dennis.

Fact: I have arrived in Ensenada many times without an FMT, completely legal.

--Larry


Well Larry, you need to get your facts straight also.

The building where all this took place is call CIS, Central Interagal Services, it houses Immigration, Customs, The Port Captain and a BANK. It's at this Bank window you pay for all the fees and fines.

This is now where you go to make application for almost anything that has to do with immigration or customs in Ensenada, arriving by land or sea.

Each time you've arrive Ensenada without an FMT or FM3 or the likes and stay more than 72 hours or travel south of Ensenada, i.e. San Quentin, you my friend are breaking the law and that's completely Illegal .

Edited for clarification

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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:53 PM


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Each time you've arrive Ensenada without an FMT or FM3 or the likes, you my friend are breaking the law and that's completely Illegal .

Just plain wrong. Day trippers don't need an FMT. Again, you can be in Ensenada for as long as a week without an FMT.
Do all of those cruise ship tourists, stopping in port for the day, have an FMT. I asked and they said no.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 02:17 PM


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In his particular case, he may have paid someone to fill out the form for the FMT. However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

That very well could be but, that wasn't my point. My point was that the Immigration department required my friend to hire an independent, outside contractor to fill out a form which should have been filled out in the IMNS office.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 02:29 PM


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However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

I love facts. :biggrin:

Fact: "Multas" must be paid at a bank and you are given a receipt. This does not sound like the case described by Dennis.

Fact: I have arrived in Ensenada many times without an FMT, completely legal.

--Larry


Well Larry, you need to get your facts straight also.

The building where all this took place is call CIS, it houses Immigration, Customs, The Port Captain and a BANK. It's at this Bank window you pay for all the fees and fines.

Each time you've arrive Ensenada without an FMT or FM3 or the likes, you my friend are breaking the law and that's completely Illegal .
You are referring to vessels as opposed to land arrivals. You should know that with your so called experience.

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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 02:54 PM
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 04:47 PM


Go easy on Dennis. He is entitled to express his view. He has posted many good and humorous viewpoints in the past, (albeit this is not one of them). I often disagree with his opinions, i.e. immigration, but have found his expressions well articulated and thought provoking. Having said that, Dennis, here's my shot across your bow. Please understand that this is not intended to be a broadside, through the hull.

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In my opinion, you are over the top with this one. What is irritating lots of folks here is your vehemence. Obviously you think an injustice has occurred. When I think an injustice has occurred, I too get on my high white horse. When I see that I am a one horse soldier against a whole army in a foreign country, I retreat. I want to save my white horse (and my arse) for another battle, principles intact. Oh, and in my next righteous battle I will be more selective in my opponent. Not like Custer at The Alamo, "Where did all those xxxxxxx indians come from?" kinda thing.:wow:

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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 05:09 PM


Custer wasn't at the Alamo?



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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 05:11 PM


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Custer wasn't at the Alamo?


I don't remember. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 05:17 PM


Thanks Tony ---

All points well taken. I tend to get a little excitable and I appologize to those who got in the way here. Mia, that would be you, for sure.
How did Buffet say it, "Good days and bad days and goin' half mad days," or something like that.
You too, Wiley. Sorry I went after you.

Seems like this thread has given Hose A a full time job. Sorry for that as well.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 06:48 PM


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Do all of those cruise ship tourists, stopping in port for the day, have an FMT. I asked and they said no.


Correct, I have docked at Ensenada three different times and there is no FMT required. Or any other paperwork.
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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 10:34 PM


Dennis you need to chill a little, jeeze. If there is ever a caustic contest I'm pickin you. You place a post and then hammer anyone with a different take on the issue.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2007 at 01:26 AM


And you Toneart with the big horn!?

Remember the Alamo!.........or was it the...Little Big Horn!

That was funny!

There was a whole lot of Mexicans at one of those places and they really put a big hurt on those gringos as I recall, though it might have been the Little Big Horn where some other folks got their licks in, or maybe Ensenada at the Harbor Masters, it is all so confusing. I'm going to get my ticket punched before I hit any of those places.

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[*] posted on 7-22-2007 at 01:31 AM


Come to think of it, both those places give this pale face cause to consider paying the man!

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[*] posted on 7-22-2007 at 08:02 AM


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In his particular case, he may have paid someone to fill out the form for the FMT. However, the fact is, you pay a 50 pesos "FINE" or in Spanish, "Multo" for not having an FMT upon arrival Ensenada.

The 50 pesos wasn't a multa. It was Carlos' fee. I know Carlos. Carlos won't do anything for nothing. He charged my buddy 50 pesos.


The plot thickens and the logic gets fuzzier. Dennis KNOWS Carlos. Dennis alleges that Dennis' buddy has been ripped off by Carlos. Does anyone else see the number of tangents that this triade could create? What is Dennis' part in the $4.53? This could be a soap opera.

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some vomit from the past, Gull?

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[*] posted on 7-22-2007 at 08:08 AM


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What’s the fuzz all about?!!! I travel to Los Cabos twice a year and never bother to get any paper work. All I take is my Ensenada driver’s license. Only one time a fine Mexican official ask me why I didn’t had the papers, I told him I’m a single woman and I don’t know the rules. He just smiled and let me go. :saint:


How do you come up with these fantasies of yours?

Does Ensenada give only local city driver's licenses?




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