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Paula
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I've been wondering whatever happened to Nadine too, Pompano. Have we influenced her, or is sho rolling on the floor laughing at it all?
Mango, for a bicycle thrill I suggest riding on the streets of Loreto. I do it often myself. La Paz is probably fun too. And I understand people
who have to ride on the highway as local transportation. And I really hope the Mexican legislature doesn't take a stand on this. What would it
change anyway? I would just like to see people who ride for sport, and possibly have never seen the highway down here before setting out have enough
common sense not to do it.
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Lyn
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:? lease do not risk it Live with care life has no spares.
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Lyn
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:?lease do not risk it Live with care life has no spares.
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Sharksbaja
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Gosh, I almost feel guilty.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
I would just like to see people who ride for sport, and possibly have never seen the highway down here before setting out have enough common sense
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I agree with you. We at least have common scene in common. Cheers.
I'd love to cruise Loreto someday on a cruiser.. I'd be more worried about the car stereos there than the cars themselves... 
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fernando
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Hello friends from the forum...I got this from a blog from lonely planet
'Hi
Iīve just ridden south to Ciudad Constitucion. Came down Mexico 5 (north-east side) to join Mexico 1 south of Catavina. Fixing up a large water
capacity (ten pints plus) was essential. Traffic is very light outside the towns. The main road can be a bit unnerving because itīs rare that you can
pull off easily, and speeds are high. Mexican driversīattitude to cyclists is much more civilised than in the USA however. If itīs not clear to
overtake you can normally hear them adjust their speed quite a way back from you.You can expect the occasional hairy moment, no worse than on most
main roads in most countries. The truck drivers are mainly friendly and careful (they have to be on this road), but again they drive fast so give them
a chance to see you well ahead. Be wary of hugging the road edge on blind right hand bends, for example. If I can help with anything specific please
get in touch. '
Fernando
Baja Outfitters & Adventures
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Skipjack Joe
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After reading this thread I find myself agreeing with Mango mostly. Saw, several pictures of trucks passing one another up in close quarters that were
supposed to suggest something but couldn't think of how a biker would end up between them.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
Mango, the problem is not meeting just the bicycle. The problem is when 2 vehicles and the bicycle all are in the same place at the same time,
especially when it is on a blind curve. Happened to us recently, a few seconds difference and it could have really been ugly.
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It seems to me that one truck shouldn't have been passing another on the curve (the law). How's the biker to blame? It seems the biker pays for the
trucker's recklessness. If there was good visibility we'd end up with pompano's picture. Pass when it's safe to pass and don't pass if you're view is
obstructed.
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burnrope
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I learned of this site and David K when I drove a chase truck for the Baja 1000 several years ago. I saw several bicyclists on Hwy 1 and thought WTF.
There's an excellent article on David K"s website about bicycles in Baja. Years ago I spent 5 months on a bicycle going from San Diego to the East
Coast via Canada, I rode the entire length of the Coast Hwy, it's way wider than Mexico 1 except for some places way up north where there were lots of
logging trucks. I wouldn't reccomend Mexico 1 for bicyclists, your endangering yourself and others. Sometimes that road seems too narow even when
I'm on my motorcycle.
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by burnrope]
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
After reading this thread I find myself agreeing with Mango mostly. Saw, several pictures of trucks passing one another up in close quarters that were
supposed to suggest something but couldn't think of how a biker would end up between them.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
Mango, the problem is not meeting just the bicycle. The problem is when 2 vehicles and the bicycle all are in the same place at the same time,
especially when it is on a blind curve. Happened to us recently, a few seconds difference and it could have really been ugly.
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It seems to me that one truck shouldn't have been passing another on the curve (the law). How's the biker to blame? It seems the biker pays for the
trucker's recklessness. If there was good visibility we'd end up with pompano's picture. Pass when it's safe to pass and don't pass if you're view is
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i'm thinking they mean passing, as in opposite directions. like in this foto. maybe they could ride their bike down the center line....
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woody with a view
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and here's a nice straight away. maybe they shouldn't be passing if they can't see what's ahead, but this is baja and logic isn't always
available....i guess that center line thing needs reworking!!!
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by woody in ob]
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Paula
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Igor, I was thinking of 1 truck and any other vehicle passing in opposite directios on a blind curve, or in a vado where you can't see what is right
in fron of you. And of course the bicyclist wouldn't be between the 2, they would be run off the side of the shoulderless road, as there is not any
room for them.
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Skipjack Joe
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Got it! It's sort of like Diane's scenario. You come around a curve, see a bike in your lane, have no time to brake, and there's a car in the opposite
lane that prevents you from driving around the biker to avoid collision. Yes, that could be disastrous.
I've had second thoughts about my first thoughts. That highway has now become like a freeway. I used to never exceed 35 miles per hour in the early
days but now the surface is so good everyone is doing 60. Perhaps bikers really don't belong anymore. But I do feel people are driving faster than
what that road was built for.
P.S.
Perhaps bikers should be advised to ride as a group that could be more easily seen. That might be safer.
[Edited on 12-3-2008 by Skipjack Joe]
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CaboRon
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I also feel that people are driving way too fast on Hwy 1 ...
Makes it rough for everyone ...
CaboRon
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Katiejay99
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Okay, I'll beat the dead horse more. My first accountant in Cabo was killed riding his bike on the highway. Hit and run. Nobody had any idea who
killed him.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
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NORTH DAKOTA-MONTANA 'HIGHLINE HIGHWAY'..A REALLY GREAT BIKE RIDE FROM WEST TO EAST (PREVAILING WINDS)
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No horse beating, but
I want that sky for all my photos!
Diane
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stimbo
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Here's a snippet of European cycling, outside of Cortina, Italy. The roads are literally infested with riders, especially after the Giro passed
through the area. The roads are super steep and windy, especially going around sharp switchbacks, there are autos, large buses, commercial trucks, and
cyclists. They all co-exist.
Riding down Highway 1 in Baja is risky no doubt, but to say that bike riders cause accidents is ridiculous as it has been stated ad naseum. Careless
driving is hazardous. I can certainly think of safer places to ride a bike in North America, but what an adventure to ride the Peninsula. Go for it!
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backninedan
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Stimbo, To say that bike riders do not cause accidents shows an ignorance of road conditions here.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by backninedan
Stimbo, To say that bike riders do not cause accidents shows an ignorance of road conditions here. |
No data indicate that bikes have caused accidents, rather the discussion here indicates that bikes are inconveniencing or scaring gringos driving too
fast. The content of this discussion suggests that nomads believe cars should be able to drive faster than safe and not be impeded by any slow
vehicles, particularly bikes, as bikes have fewer rights than cars. This is an endless discussion -- and all I have learned is that most gringo
nomads think motor vehicle drivers rights to the road are superior to rights of bicycle riders. 
Y'all should slow down, and not drive faster than visibility warrants -- you need to be able to stop safely when road conditions change on blind
corners, whether it's a cow, biker, fallen rock, or stalled car on the road.
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BajaGringo
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So are you saying that I should drive at say, 10 mph around all of the blind corners in Baja???
As one who nearly overturned to avoid hitting a bicycle rider who came into my lane to avoid getting hit from behind I find it rather hard to swallow
that one. On blind curves on the Baja 1 there is room for one car in each lane and that is what they were designed for.
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Mango
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The dead horse says slow down.
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