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flyfishinPam
Super Nomad
Posts: 1727
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Loreto, BCS
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Mood: gone fishin'
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Group hug! Now who says Ron is a party crasher?
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DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
Keep it up. |
I'm trying to keep virility out of the conversation but, Thanks.
I mean it, Vince. Thanks a lot.
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shari
Select Nomad
Posts: 13048
Registered: 3-10-2006
Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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can I get in on this group hug??? Dennis...I LOVE YA MAN!
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Udo
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6346
Registered: 4-26-2008
Location: Black Hills, SD/Ensenada/San Felipe
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Mood: TEQUILA!
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Shari,
when I come by to see you I'm bringing you a box of WOODHOUSE chocolates!
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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bajamigo
Super Nomad
Posts: 1218
Registered: 6-17-2006
Location: Punta Banda, BC
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Mood: hubimos llegado
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Forget the Woodhouse. Here's where to buy the best chocolates: Baja Chocolate Lovers
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BajaBruno
Super Nomad
Posts: 1035
Registered: 9-6-2006
Location: Back in CA
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Mood: Happy
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Well done, Legs.
Just so no one is left out, I was also one of those who helped [Cabo/LaPaz/etc]Ron when he came through LaPaz. One evening was enough to know him.
He wasn't invited for another dinner.
If no one has guessed, it was with Ron in mind that I floated the Ostracism post a few days ago. With scant few dissensions, I think the assembly has
spoken. Life is too short to live with CaboRons.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
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What happened, Bruno? Did he eat with his hands?
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Mulegena
Super Nomad
Posts: 2412
Registered: 11-7-2006
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Coming from the Heart
Thank you, Dennis, for your heartfelt statement of compassion and understanding.
Indeed, you also speak of our human frailty and shortcomings that we all may have known
at dark times in our lives with eloquence, gentleness, strength and grace.
Mil Gracias.
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Osprey
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3694
Registered: 5-23-2004
Location: Baja Ca. Sur
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Passion, compassion, empathy, understanding? Hey, those are all my cards. I may have to write some stories about Nomads. Watchit now watchit.
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DanO
Super Nomad
Posts: 1923
Registered: 8-26-2003
Location: Not far from the Pacific
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Boy, if there was ever a thread crying out for JR, it's this one. He had a real knack for separating the wheat from the chaff.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Mulegena
Super Nomad
Posts: 2412
Registered: 11-7-2006
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Don't shoot the messenger
... even if he prefaces his delivery with personal commentary which is inflammatory and possibly ambiguous and/or off the mark.
The message itself was a revealing and very personal commentary by an educated Mexican citizen.
I don't have the background of information or experience to make a pertinent response to the author's thoughts that would further inform, enlighten or
even entertain the Nomad readership, or any constituency for that matter, about this topic which is, according to the writer, so deeply a part of the
Mexican national collective consciousness.
Ron's preface and our responses have taken the focus away from the body of the post itself. In other words, this thread has been royally hijacked,
right from the get-go; the train is running on rocks not coal, and ain't nobody goin' get nowhere but derailed or run the risk of being run out of
town on said rail.
Can we all stop for a moment, take a breather, send and receive mea culpas and start over?
[Edited on 5-20-2009 by Mulegena]
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Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
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Mood: undecided
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Why not! Now where were we?
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vandenberg
Elite Nomad
Posts: 5118
Registered: 6-21-2005
Location: Nopolo
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Mulegena,
Just the fact that he copied and pasted an article trying to shame the Mexican establishment in itself, shows the disdain this person has for
everything Mexican.
I doubt that he has the ability to write anything that really has any merit .
[Edited on 5-20-2009 by vandenberg]
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Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
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Mood: undecided
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CaboRon, Hang in there. Guess you must be tweeking some raw nerves. The
truth only hurts people that are in denial. It isn't all pretty and it isn't all
sweet, but it's real. Baja is a great place! But, it has a few down sides.
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BajaGringo
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3922
Registered: 8-24-2006
Location: La Chorera
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Mood: Let's have a BBQ!
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Man, I take off for a couple of days and miss all the broohaa...
Your personal experience is 100% of your impression of a new place and obviously (and unfortunately) Ron had a very bad one. It happens and I am truly
sorry it did. When we experience such crap in life, some of us just internalize it and others may choose public forums such as this to vent.
The fact that it did happen to Ron doesn't mean that it will be the same thing everyone else here living as an expat will experience. In fact, I
believe that most do have a much more positive experience overall. I base that solely on life here for many years and talking to thousands of gringos.
However I also believe that the fact that so many of us here have had much more positive experiences does not diminish the fact that Ron did not. We
can all play amateur psychoanalysts and try to break down the reasons but the reality if we have not lived life in his shoes it would be pure
conjecture without proper perspective.
Personally I am just very sorry for him that things did go so badly. Ron made a lot of posts on this forum that were well read and even included
positive replies by many here who have replied in this thread. We are just listening to him vent now in frustration. Maybe he expresses himself a
little more animated than others would but that is just Ron. If people were hurt or falsely accused, I am sure that Ron would be the first to
apologize when he calms down and life settles in up north.
I just sincerely wish him well in his journey...
[Edited on 5-21-2009 by BajaGringo]
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