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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 08:10 PM


Group hug! Now who says Ron is a party crasher?



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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 08:14 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
Keep it up.



I'm trying to keep virility out of the conversation but, Thanks.

I mean it, Vince. Thanks a lot.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 08:39 PM


can I get in on this group hug??? Dennis...I LOVE YA MAN!



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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 08:43 PM


Shari,
when I come by to see you I'm bringing you a box of WOODHOUSE chocolates!




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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 09:35 PM


Forget the Woodhouse. Here's where to buy the best chocolates: Baja Chocolate Lovers



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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 09:46 PM


Well done, Legs.

Just so no one is left out, I was also one of those who helped [Cabo/LaPaz/etc]Ron when he came through LaPaz. One evening was enough to know him. He wasn't invited for another dinner.

If no one has guessed, it was with Ron in mind that I floated the Ostracism post a few days ago. With scant few dissensions, I think the assembly has spoken. Life is too short to live with CaboRons.




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[*] posted on 5-19-2009 at 11:35 PM


What happened, Bruno? Did he eat with his hands?:lol:
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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 12:06 AM
Coming from the Heart


Thank you, Dennis, for your heartfelt statement of compassion and understanding.
Indeed, you also speak of our human frailty and shortcomings that we all may have known
at dark times in our lives with eloquence, gentleness, strength and grace.

Mil Gracias.
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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 05:56 AM


Passion, compassion, empathy, understanding? Hey, those are all my cards. I may have to write some stories about Nomads. Watchit now watchit.
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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 10:13 AM


Boy, if there was ever a thread crying out for JR, it's this one. He had a real knack for separating the wheat from the chaff.



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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 10:47 AM
Don't shoot the messenger


... even if he prefaces his delivery with personal commentary which is inflammatory and possibly ambiguous and/or off the mark.

The message itself was a revealing and very personal commentary by an educated Mexican citizen.

I don't have the background of information or experience to make a pertinent response to the author's thoughts that would further inform, enlighten or even entertain the Nomad readership, or any constituency for that matter, about this topic which is, according to the writer, so deeply a part of the Mexican national collective consciousness.

Ron's preface and our responses have taken the focus away from the body of the post itself. In other words, this thread has been royally hijacked, right from the get-go; the train is running on rocks not coal, and ain't nobody goin' get nowhere but derailed or run the risk of being run out of town on said rail.

Can we all stop for a moment, take a breather, send and receive mea culpas and start over?

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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 12:35 PM


Why not! :D Now where were we?:D
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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 01:24 PM


Mulegena,

Just the fact that he copied and pasted an article trying to shame the Mexican establishment in itself, shows the disdain this person has for everything Mexican.
I doubt that he has the ability to write anything that really has any merit .

[Edited on 5-20-2009 by vandenberg]




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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 01:49 PM


CaboRon, Hang in there. :biggrin: Guess you must be tweeking some raw nerves. The truth only hurts people that are in denial.:) It isn't all pretty and it isn't all sweet, but it's real. Baja is a great place!:D But, it has a few down sides.:)
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[*] posted on 5-20-2009 at 03:59 PM


Man, I take off for a couple of days and miss all the broohaa...

Your personal experience is 100% of your impression of a new place and obviously (and unfortunately) Ron had a very bad one. It happens and I am truly sorry it did. When we experience such crap in life, some of us just internalize it and others may choose public forums such as this to vent.

The fact that it did happen to Ron doesn't mean that it will be the same thing everyone else here living as an expat will experience. In fact, I believe that most do have a much more positive experience overall. I base that solely on life here for many years and talking to thousands of gringos.

However I also believe that the fact that so many of us here have had much more positive experiences does not diminish the fact that Ron did not. We can all play amateur psychoanalysts and try to break down the reasons but the reality if we have not lived life in his shoes it would be pure conjecture without proper perspective.

Personally I am just very sorry for him that things did go so badly. Ron made a lot of posts on this forum that were well read and even included positive replies by many here who have replied in this thread. We are just listening to him vent now in frustration. Maybe he expresses himself a little more animated than others would but that is just Ron. If people were hurt or falsely accused, I am sure that Ron would be the first to apologize when he calms down and life settles in up north.

I just sincerely wish him well in his journey...


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



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