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wilderone
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I agree your MSR setup is too large and heavy. Check out the GAZ stoves and its cannister. 3 cannisters for the Gaz is about the size of your largest
fuel container shown above. The pot shown on the MSR is too heavy for either the Esbit or a backpacking stove. Go titanium and/or the pot shown with
your Esbit. Takes too much fuel to boil water in a large, heavy pot with heavy lid. Use heavy duty aluminum foil for lids. I'll experiment with my
Esbit outside to see how long it takes to boil 8 oz of water in a 12 oz titanium pot. (However, 2 cups of water in 5 min. isn't bad.) Old Bay
seasoning, szchuan (sp?) seasoning for fish. With boil in the bag rice or couscous. Instant mashed potatoes, pouches of tuna, chicken, salmon pack
well. Lots of trail mix consisting of walnuts, coconut, yogurt coated raisins, dried cranberries, can be thrown in some oatmeal for breakfast or eaten
while paddling for sustained caloric energy. A small grill will be very handy whenever you find the time and fuel for a small fire.
If you want to consider another option for a stove, as a backup or otherwise, you can get the very, very light and inexpensive alcohol stoves on eBay.
Yes, you have to carry fuel for it, but I was very pleased with the light weight and size and reliability. You can put alcohol stove fuel in plastic
bottles - like plastic shampoo bottles - so they're not so heavy.
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wilderone
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Like this - I have 2 - one I've had for 30 years:
http://cgi.ebay.com/GAZ-Compact-camping-STOVE-Bleuet-S-200-b...
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woody with a view
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Yak
every turn of the coast past San Quintin will have a fish camp. you will be revered as the next coming of Cortez when you haul out for the night. they
will treat you like family. don't over pack or sweat the minute details. there will (nearly) always be smiling faces willing to share what they have
with, "The Crazy Gringo Who Came From The Sea."
when are you going again?
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seayak
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
I agree your MSR setup is too large and heavy. Check out the GAZ stoves and its cannister. 3 cannisters for the Gaz is about the size of your largest
fuel container shown above. The pot shown on the MSR is too heavy for either the Esbit or a backpacking stove. Go titanium and/or the pot shown with
your Esbit. Takes too much fuel to boil water in a large, heavy pot with heavy lid. Use heavy duty aluminum foil for lids. I'll experiment with my
Esbit outside to see how long it takes to boil 8 oz of water in a 12 oz titanium pot. (However, 2 cups of water in 5 min. isn't bad.) Old Bay
seasoning, szchuan (sp?) seasoning for fish. With boil in the bag rice or couscous. Instant mashed potatoes, pouches of tuna, chicken, salmon pack
well. Lots of trail mix consisting of walnuts, coconut, yogurt coated raisins, dried cranberries, can be thrown in some oatmeal for breakfast or eaten
while paddling for sustained caloric energy. A small grill will be very handy whenever you find the time and fuel for a small fire.
If you want to consider another option for a stove, as a backup or otherwise, you can get the very, very light and inexpensive alcohol stoves on eBay.
Yes, you have to carry fuel for it, but I was very pleased with the light weight and size and reliability. You can put alcohol stove fuel in plastic
bottles - like plastic shampoo bottles - so they're not so heavy. |
The MSR stove, pot, and cylinders is the set up I used for my last tour. It wasn't the lightest or smallest but the XKG-EX stove is really reliable,
and it will even burn diesel. The set up ran flawless for 65 days straight. I like titanium but I just can't convince myself that it's worth it. The
aluminum cup cost me $1.98 and the titanium version is $34. If weight was more of an issue I wouldn't hesitate. 
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seayak
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
Yak
every turn of the coast past San Quintin will have a fish camp. you will be revered as the next coming of Cortez when you haul out for the night. they
will treat you like family. don't over pack or sweat the minute details. there will (nearly) always be smiling faces willing to share what they have
with, "The Crazy Gringo Who Came From The Sea."
when are you going again? |
I'm glad to hear that, I read the book "Into A Desert" and the stories of how friendly the fish camps were great.
The plan is too leave the first week in June 2010.
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woody with a view
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give some warning. maybe we'll be "out there" somewhere to meet up with ya!
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jahImpala3
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Jerry,
I would bring a small grill to cook fish on. Aluminum foil is good, but you would need to bring a roll of it to cook every night. Mrs. Dash has always
been a good, general seasoning for fish that we have liked.
Talk to you later,
-E
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TheColoradoDude
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If you have the cash I highly recommend the Jetboil. You will have boiling water in about 90 seconds and its pretty compact. Carry some extra fuel
cannisters and your good to go. I have used this on numerous camping expeditions and it seemed to outperform anything else I saw available. I was
usually eating or drinking hot tea while others were still fighting to get a flame.
http://www.rei.com/product/791308
You can also get replacement fuel coleman 70 butane 30 propane at walmart. It's cheaper than the actual jet fuel from REI and I don't notice a
difference.
http://www.amazon.com/Canister-Propane-Butane-Fuel/dp/B002RZ...
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KapeZer
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
I agree your MSR setup is too large and heavy. Check out the GAZ stoves and its cannister. 3 cannisters for the Gaz is about the size of your largest
fuel container shown above. The pot shown on the MSR is too heavy for either the Esbit or a backpacking stove. Go titanium and/or the pot shown with
your Esbit. Takes too much fuel to boil water in a large, heavy pot with heavy lid. Use heavy duty aluminum foil for lids. I'll experiment with my
Esbit outside to see how long it takes to boil 8 oz of water in a 12 oz titanium pot. (However, 2 cups of water in 5 min. isn't bad.) Old Bay
seasoning, szchuan (sp?) seasoning for fish. With boil in the bag rice or couscous. Instant mashed potatoes, pouches of tuna, chicken, salmon pack
well. Lots of trail mix consisting of walnuts, coconut, yogurt coated raisins, dried cranberries, can be thrown in some oatmeal for breakfast or eaten
while paddling for sustained caloric energy. A small grill will be very handy whenever you find the time and fuel for a small fire.
If you want to consider another option for a stove, as a backup or otherwise, you can get the very, very light and inexpensive alcohol stoves on eBay.
Yes, you have to carry fuel for it, but I was very pleased with the light weight and size and reliability. You can put alcohol stove fuel in plastic
bottles - like plastic shampoo bottles - so they're not so heavy. |
I want to try this food I will try cook this thing .,I really like yogurt I do not know why .,I wish I can make a tasty and lovely food .,
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Probiotic Supplements
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dean miller
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suggest that you read
"We Survived Yesterday" by John Reeseck. Jr.,
1994. ISBN # 1-882180-18-6.
John is retired to Washington State and is still active in water sports.
Should you like to contact John please PM me
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monoloco
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Also you might want to get a copy of;" Baja Boater's Guide vol.1" by Jack Williams. It has very good aerial photos of all the major anchorages and
launching spots.
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seayak
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Hello,
So it's almost time to go and things have changed a little. Not paddling solo, teamed up with another paddler for safety. Start date is June 9th hope
to make Cabo by July 17th, I have a flight home on July 18th. Most of the details are tentative due to the nature of things but I'm hoping to meet
some of you on the Pacific side.
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seayak
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dean miller
suggest that you read
"We Survived Yesterday" by John Reeseck. Jr.,
1994. ISBN # 1-882180-18-6.
John is retired to Washington State and is still active in water sports.
Should you like to contact John please PM me |
So I had the chance to meet John at his place in Orange County. He's pretty awesome, got him to sign my copy of "We Survived Yesterday". Having never
met me, he invited us to his house and went over all my maps and plans for the trip. If I survive this, I may make a trip up north to paddle Vancouver
Island with John.
[Edited on 4-29-2010 by seayak]
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wilderone
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Let us know where you'll be in San Diego to launch - I'd love to wish you fare well.
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Hey Seayak,
Cool to see this thread up again, and wishing you a great trip. Looking forward to hearing more!
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Udo
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I second this suggestion, and as one kayaker to another, sure would be nice to see you off and wish you luck. I'll
bet other yakers as well as Nomads would do the same.  
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Let us know where you'll be in San Diego to launch - I'd love to wish you fare well. |
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wilderone
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seayak - are you on track? Can we meet up with you for a farewell?
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Udo
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I would be there for that one too, wilderone.
I think they were leaving this Sunday, June 6.
This has to be better that the right coast guys that spent their time in the SOC.
The Pacific is humongously rougher!
I did this one on a Hobie 16, as well as crossing the SOC from San Felipe to Puerto Peņasco.
However, those trips were 25 years ago, but I would still do them again even at my age.
I hope the kayakers are taking at least one fishing pole.
[Edited on 6-5-2010 by Udo]
[Edited on 6-5-2010 by Udo]
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wilderone
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I sent him a U2U too - tomorrow would work for me.
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Udo
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I tried their e-mail, wilder, but not working, (the one set up on Nomads)
I also sent a u2u.
If I had their names, I could google them.
I noticed they are in Apple Valley, which is right behind the San Bernardino mountains. About 45 from me.
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