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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
My tent is bigger and weighs a whole lot less! I also don't have anyplace to store the camper shell for the majority of the time my truck bed is used
daily for my jobs. |
Well, I can see why you're carrying a tent.
Maybe Billy Barty could sleep in that truck bed, but that's about it. 
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bonanza bucko
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For Capt. Mike:
I had TWO "Limited" 4X4 Ford Explorers. Both cost me $12/mile for repairs on "That Road" from Puertecitos to Gonzaga Bay....two 100 mile round trips
and two $1200 repair bills. Number one was due to the entire instrument panel falling out and onto my feet. Number two was a $10 plastic gate in the
heat/air system falling off....cost $1200 labor to get at it.
My 2004 Tundra 4X4 has been up and down "That Road" more than 20 times....NO, zilch, nada repair bills...not even a sqweek! It has 151K miles on it
now and it is just super. I love it....15MPG city and 18MPG freeway.
The new Tundras don't seem to measure up on "That Road" with the older ones but they still beat the livin' pants offa any Deeeeetroit cast iron. I
believe David about Tacoma...good truck. I'm gonna wait to see what Toyota comes up with in 2011 for improvements and mileage. In the mean time I
love my truck...almost as much as you and I love our airplanes! :-)
BTW...it Obamachenko motors made a solid gold truck that got 200MPG and never failed I would never buy it.....even if my old boss is now CEO and
Chairman of the board. I hope Gummint, Obama motors goes flat broke!.....again.
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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I don't have any special data collected on the ABS system... We all know that it is really only good on dry pavement and otherwise will not stop the
truck as soon as without ABS. Itis disabled when the Rear Dif. islocked... Here are a couple of charts that explaing what works, when...
This looks identical to my 07 Toyota FJ Cruiser. I am guessing that Toyota figgered they got it right on the FJ drive train, and decided to use it in
their current 4X4's. 
The FJ has not been available to purchase in '09, and I don't know if they will make any for '10. If they don't, looks like they will let Jeep keep
the bobtails all to themselves.
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Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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David K
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I was at Toyota yesterday and confirmed they are still making FJs in 2010... and even picked up a 2010 FJ Cruiser brochure!
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Packoderm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
My tent is bigger and weighs a whole lot less! I also don't have anyplace to store the camper shell for the majority of the time my truck bed is used
daily for my jobs. |
Due to your rhetoric, I assumed you were a land owner.
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David K
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Rhetoric? No, I am a (poor, overtaxed) American trying to be responsible and living within my means. I rent a small home that serves us well.
I have no desire for a camper on my truck. We take about 4 camping trips a year and the rest of the time my truck is for work, so a camper is way more
trouble than it is worth.
Hook, the 4 door Tacoma standard bed is 5 foot, but with the tail gate down it offers more than enough length if you want to sleep in the bed. We have
a couple times, but a tent or under the stars on our air mattress is more comfortable. A long bed 4 door is available, but I don't need it and it
wouldn't fit in my garage.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
BTW...it Obamachenko motors made a solid gold truck that got 200MPG and never failed I would never buy it.....even if my old boss is now CEO and
Chairman of the board. I hope Gummint, Obama motors goes flat broke!.....again. |
sounds like you take the govt bailout of GM personally  i think they have
medicine for your affliction
obama admin stepped in to save a big US firm and save a US manufacturing sector, and if it works out well that will be swell.
yes we can!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am a (poor, overtaxed) American... I rent a small home...
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DK: home prices are low, credit is cheap, you should buy a house and take advantage of the tax deduction for mortgage interest
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David K
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Nope, I want to live within my means... I don't let politicians (who twisted the arms of banks in '08) talk me into getting home loans I can't afford
payments on. Nobody has a 'right' to be dependent on their neighbors' earnings for their home, food or healthcare.
Be responsible to take care of yourself.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I'm gonna wait to see what Toyota comes up with in 2011 for improvements and mileage. |
Bucko,
The sad thing is that overseas Toyota sells the Tacoma badged as the Hilux and it comes with a diesel option that gets a claimed 30mpg highway. That
one I would buy in a heartbeat. Toyota has not announced that it is coming here however.
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/163_news091208_2010_...
Ken
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by tripledigitken]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I'm gonna wait to see what Toyota comes up with in 2011 for improvements and mileage. |
Bucko,
The sad thing is that overseas Toyota sells the Tacoma badged as the Hilux and it comes with a diesel option that gets a claimed 30mpg highway. That
one I would buy in a heartbeat. Toyota has not announced that it is coming here however.
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/163_news091208_2010_...
Ken
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by tripledigitken] |
diesels are hard to design/sell in US market due to our clean air regs.... (blame it on libs? ) for whatever reason, auto makers won't sell many diesels here
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norte
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Bucko do you bow down to the politicians (in Japan) that subsidize Toy ota every year?
and David. You need to get another job. geeze
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David K
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my Tacoma is made in Baja California, Mexico... So it is very happy anytime I drive it back to its homeland!
New Years was the first trip... and President's day will be the next!
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I'm gonna wait to see what Toyota comes up with in 2011 for improvements and mileage. |
Bucko,
The sad thing is that overseas Toyota sells the Tacoma badged as the Hilux and it comes with a diesel option that gets a claimed 30mpg highway. That
one I would buy in a heartbeat. Toyota has not announced that it is coming here however.
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/163_news091208_2010_...
Ken
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by tripledigitken] |
diesels are hard to design/sell in US market due to our clean air regs.... (blame it on libs? ) for whatever reason, auto makers won't sell many diesels here |
Thanks for the update Goat.
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David K
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2010 Mileage
Last fill up, I got 20.5 MPG (combined city/ highway)! I never got that much before, even if highway only!
Up to now, I was getting 16/18 on the new truck (city/ highway)... It has 3,300 miles on it now, 2.5 months old.
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David K
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TRACTION OPTIONS
I also post over on The Tacoma World forums... it is where I went to figure out the many traction options the '09 and '10 Off Road TRD 4WD Tacomas
have. There wasn't one clear explanation there, either... and the manual doesn't do justice to giving us the data we seek.
I have this put together and if any of you Tacoma TRD 4WD (Tacoma or FJ Cruiser or Land Cruiser) folks can benefit, then great!:
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I am happy to put stuff down in a way we can understand... Here is another way that may help to see the nine modes as being different:
Basically, we have:
1) 2WD with 'mild' LSD (Limited Slip Differntial called 'TRAC'),
2) 2WD with 'strong' LSD called "AUTO LSD", in the TRAC Off mode), and
3) 2WD with open differentials (VSC Off mode, for both TRAC and VSC off).
We have:
4) H4 with 'medium' LSD (TRAC with no engine output regulation), and
5) H4 with open differentials (VSC Off mode)
We have:
6) L4 with open differentials,
7) L4 with 'strong' LSD (A-TRAC)
8) L4 with rear locker and open front differential, and
9) L4 with rear locker and strong front LSD (A-TRAC).
As for when you use those 9 modes... well, whenever you need to! Seriously, the standard setting in H2 and H4 will work. I have never needed AUTO LSD
because I have 4WD, so why put your truck through any stress?
H4 with TRAC is fantastic for most 4WD applications... I was amazed on how it took me over deep beach and arroyo sand without deflating the tires (as
always necessary before).
L4... well this is the one mode that I say to push a button for, the A-TRAC button, and leave it that way. L4 is for slow crawling up and down grades
or through deep snow/ mud... or if you do get stuck in sand. Amazing technology makes our Tacomas tractors (almost)!
Locking rear differential: Well, with A-TRAC I just don't know if this is important anymore. Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and
not have it! Before A-TRAC, I used the locker many times for steep hill climbing... and it worked. Try a steep climb and if you are halted before you
get to the top... try the locker and see if you get any further. My testing at Ocotillo Wells, didn't do anything more than wher A-TRAC got me...
There is more 'testing' to do, however!
OPEN DIFFERENTALS? We have the option of making the differntial(s) open in all three drives (H2, H4, L4)... if you just gotta play in the snow or mud
with one tire per drive axle spinning away, and the other doing nothing... like on the pre-2009 Tacomas.
So, you have traction opens galore! However, the standard mode in H2 and H4 will take care of you... and push the A-TRAC button once in L4 and leave
it that way... making it the 'normal' mode in L4, will be the way to go IMO!
Have Fun Everyone!
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2010 TRD OFF-ROAD 4WD DC with 9 drive modes (using VSC Off, A-TRAC & RR Diff Lock switches):
1) 2WD: VSC and TRAC active, 'Vehicle Stability Contro'l and 'Traction Control' (Limited Slip Diff.).
2) 2WD: Switch turns off 'TRAC' and 'VSC', and turns on 'AUTO LSD'. Gives maximum power to tire with traction by braking spinning tire, without
cutting power.
3) 2WD: 3 second push of switch turns off VSC, TRAC & AUTO LSD for open differential.
4) 4WD-Hi: VSC and TRAC are both on. No engine power is cut in TRAC while in H4.
5) 4WD-Hi: 3 second push of switch turns off VSC and TRAC.
6) 4WD-Lo: VSC and TRAC are off (open differentials).
7) 4WD-Lo: Push of A-TRAC button activates A-TRAC (Locker-like limited slip).
8) 4WD-Lo: Push of RR DIFF LOCK switch to lock rear differential.
9) 4WD-Lo: RR DIFF LOCK and A-TRAC combined. 5 MPH limit.
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Packoderm
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Play it safe and go with the one with the 'strong' LSD.
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David K
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Different LSD then they use in Berkeley, I think!
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Packoderm
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Oh yeah, it's been recalled. "Don't take the Toyota 'strong' LSD..."
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
The Tacoma has an AC outlet near the tailgate. It's rated at 100 watts /400 watts with a button next to the steering column. For last years Christmas
Parade we used the truck to pull the float. It was lit up with Christmas lights, a DVD player and a TV set. All worked OK in the garage when setup.
During the parade we found out that when it is set for 400 watts the truck changes to 100 watts when it is put into gear. As you can guess we had no
lights or TV playing during the parade. This year we rented a generator, no problem. |
There is a solution to keep it at 400 watts, while in gear! (from a post on TacomaWorld):
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/156894-how-...
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