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JESSE
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Teo didn't live there for ten years. About a year ago i lived right across that house. They where remodeling it and bringing in new furniture. The old
owners sold it to someone from Ensenada. Teo probably visited every few months for a few days, thats all.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
We were seriously considering moving to La Paz.
I think we will now wait a while until all the dust settles. |
Theres nothing wrong with you moving to La Paz. Its still one of the safest cities in north america. Guys like Teo come to hide, but they don't do
business here. They keep a very low profile.
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MitchMan
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That's comforting to hear, Jesse. But, since he was captured in La Paz, I am apprehensive about the possible retribution that may ensue in La Paz as
retribution usually follows in the area where local enforcement obviously participated in his capture. I am going to La Paz for ten days with my wife
at the end of this week. I will be watching out for word of any activity and will report on this forum if I hear of anything.
Darn, I thought BCS had no substantive connection to any of this evil.
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djh
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BOILING !!
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
El Teo thought he was invincible. Here is an excerpt I translated from an article in AFN about him:
| Quote: | Before, on other occasions when there were rumors of his arrest, he had the luck to be helped by some people, including police, to flee. And when that
didn't work out, he fled after delivering large amounts of money to his captors. El Teo avoided an arrest in Ensenada, when protected by federal
highway patrolmen, he was removed from a resort where in the end the person known as "El Pozolero", Santiago Meza Lopez, was arrested. More recently,
at the end of last year in Rosarito, it was verified that he was captured in an operation by federal officers, apparently from SIEDO, but he
"negotiated" his freedom and by paying them a huge amount of money they let him go.
http://afntijuana.info/blog/?p=25360 |
There are a lot of dirty, stinkin cops down there with the blood of their own fellow cops and carnales on their hands. I hear El Teo is singing like a
canary now. I hope the round them all up to keep him company. |
This boil anyone else's blood as much as mine ??
It is difficult to imagine not having a death penalty in this whole situation....
Speaking of boiling.... aren't there some spare 55 gal. drums available for the whole lot ?
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I want this Scumbag El Teo and others of his ilk to get the Death Penalty for killing innocent people
including honest police officers. That is the bare minimum the Mexican Government can do for all the chaos they have caused for the Mexican people! I
want any Police Officer who offered aid to this Scumbag to get life imprisonment without the possibility of parole or given the death penalty if they
killed anyone while aiding him.
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aldosalato
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http://puertoviejobcs.blogspot.com/
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Hook
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Unlike baseball, it's hard for me to keep track of all the players and which team they are on.
That said, Jesse, how does the recent capture and killings of the Beltrans and now the capture of El Teo square with your contention that Calderon is
favoring one cartel over the other? 
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lizard lips
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He gets his drugs at "Farmacia Del Sol" Hook. I saw him there the other day.
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k-rico
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BCS's government has been run by PRD governors for about 10 years.
The PRD has called for the legalization of drugs to stop the violence.
Narcos "hide" in plain sight in BCS. El Teo sure went out of his way building his hideout. Same neighborhood in the capital city where the oligarchs
live. He felt safe there.
Hmmmm.
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by k-rico]
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Woooosh
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He travels with suitcases full of $Millions, just for the purpose of bribing his way free. This time the cops said no to $5.8 or $8.5 Million- for
the first time. What third world cop/military/politician can say no to $Millions of instant wealth to split among themselves and walk away with?
Instant retirement and a new life- and that's apparently what has happened several times.
It bothers me the DEA/Mexico watched and tracked him for the past six months while all the heads were rolling around TJ and tourist economy collapsed.
Geesh.
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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oldlady
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Interesting house...no wall, no fence, no gate. Little unusual in that hood.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
Interesting house...no wall, no fence, no gate. Little unusual in that hood. |
Not to mention they took him down, with choppers and planes flying around overhead, without a shot being fired. If I were the type of guy who cooked
people's bodies in acid, I'd at least shoot my gun a couple of times.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
Interesting house...no wall, no fence, no gate. Little unusual in that hood. |
Not to mention they took him down, with choppers and planes flying around overhead, without a shot being fired. If I were the type of guy who cooked
people's bodies in acid, I'd at least shoot my gun a couple of times. |
Enthusiasm for criminal enforcement is great, but, perhaps a critical view might be worth consideration.
There is no evidence presented so far that someone named el teo is responsible for any crime. Yes, there are post-attributions of responsibility,
claims of credit, but no actual evidence presented before and after the arrest.
While we do have evidence of some people who are narco-traffickers, actual evidence, those cases predominantly point to sources such as CIA drug
operations, crashed military extradition planes full of coke, corrupt military and black operations like Iran-Contra of which there are many.
Interestingly that with so many so called investigators and retired police here, none of you have brought up the quite obvious question-about the
evidence that in fact el teo is responsible for anything and where is evidence that the person they arrested is that person.
There are fairly obvious and basic questions, that haven't been brought up nor answered here, so it brings up the obvious question, if this is a crime
and arrest Why is there no evidence, it looks like distractions and obfuscation from actual corruption, not so different from operations to justify
the war of terror, in this case its the police state to justify the war for drugs.
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toneart
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"...where is evidence that the person they arrested is that person."(?)-gnukid
This is an interesting stretch of the imagination! Having said that, my mind can go there and make a case:
1. Phony, trumped up arrest of decoy so as to shield the real Teo.
2. Brownie points with public.
3. Justification for War On Drugs which is a BIG industry.
Choose one, two or all three.
Quien sabe?
Bring me my new tinfoil hat, please. 
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Bring me my new tinfoil hat, please. |
Tony--------you have GOT to take better care of those "hats"----they are very fragile, you know, and only work when in good shape. (I speak from
experience.)
Barry
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ELINVESTIG8R
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Bring me my new tinfoil hat, please. |
Tony--------you have GOT to take better care of those "hats"----they are very fragile, you know, and only work when in good shape. (I speak from
experience.)
Barry |
Tony here you go please don't loose it again. They are getting expensive! I just lost mine again too!
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Bring me my new tinfoil hat, please. |
Tony--------you have GOT to take better care of those "hats"----they are very fragile, you know, and only work when in good shape. (I speak from
experience.)
Barry |
Tony here you go please don't loose it again. They are getting expensive! I just lost mine again too!
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Ahhhhh! Thanks, guys. With so much on my mind, the head swells and the damned hat keeps popping off and getting lost.
Now I can get back to work. 
I suppose in an emergency, the silver fillings in my mouth will bring in reception. There is a lot of static though. The new tinfoil hat keeps my
brain clear as a bell. 
[Edited on 1-14-2010 by toneart]
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gnukid
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Please, why not include any links or references to actual factual evidence beyond these farcical story lines.
Each of you who promote killing or execution without that evidence must be ashamed of yourselves for falling into a trap of programmed repetitive
violence. Truly, you must ask yourself what kind of values you represent if you base your values on theatrics and condone murder of others based only
on theatrics and heresay and no evidence of crime.
I do not doubt that there are bad guys, only that I expect that everyone should be afforded the same expectation of evidence of guilt in a public
trial. And it is deeply offensive to our values as a community of fairness that You would promote open threats of murder without such evidence. Each
of you who have made these statements in support of murder without evidence previously in this thread need to look at your values and morality and ask
yourself how that affects your actions, your family and your community.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
"...where is evidence that the person they arrested is that person."(?)-gnukid
This is an interesting stretch of the imagination! Having said that, my mind can go there and make a case:
1. Phony, trumped up arrest of decoy so as to shield the real Teo.
2. Brownie points with public.
3. Justification for War On Drugs which is a BIG industry.
Choose one, two or all three.
Quien sabe?
Bring me my new tinfoil hat, please. |
I have no theory about what is happening in this case, not at all. I asked some pretty obvious questions which so many of you smartypants
investigators and retired police and military failed to ask-which to me is odd.
I said, paraphrasing, we have seen no evidence of criminal activity nor evidence that this is a criminal in these recent reports. Furthermore, I said
that yes there is evidence of narco trafficking by people who are caught-such as the Iran Contra case and many well documented military extradition
planes who crashed loaded with drugs. Many many cases of CIA and Military support for drug trafficking, such as that which is occurring in Afghanistan
now under US military protection.
Certainly I would agree, the entire scenario is sad, horrific really, but can we drip the farcical theatrics for some actual crime-busting and do it
in a manner which reinforces our values, our morals and common sense which has been entirely lacking in the reporting of this narco arrest.
You are certainly each welcome to your viewpoint. Though I would urge you to be thoughtful, critical and skeptical as your first position. Do not let
your emotional buttons be pushed by theatre which compromises your values and don't demean yoursleves but falling toward and mirroring bad behavior.
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Kid its not for us to furnish the evidence, its for the prosecutors in a court of law. And I fully believe that they have that evidence. Now go make
some Pizza I'm sure thats what you do best. 
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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