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SDRonni
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Whew! That's a relief!
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Bajahowodd
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Just bad news for the people of Mexico who live off of tourist business... The harder it is for people to just cross the border for some fun, the
fewer who will bother to go.
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Mexico needs to revise its tourist model. Dollar tacos, drugs, cheap Viagra, hookers and 'drink til you pass out' spring breakers are hard sells for
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The have legal casinos and legal city-licensed sex workers. You'd think those two together would give someone ideas... "Catch something closer to
home next vacation... visit TJ?" "Lose you cherry and hit the jackpot in TJ"... Lot's of potential. If they lower the age of consent they will
capture the we-used-to-go-to-Thailand crowd- they have passports.
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As far as I know, the legal casinos are limited to slots and sportsbook. It would really take the whole enchilada of casino games to really make a
difference. It has been rumored for years that the folks in Mexico City were planning on establishing gambling zones in several places around the
country. I've heard Cabo and Cancun mentioned. If that was to come to pass, I doubt a place like TJ would qualify.
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Why negative comments? It appears to me that it's just Mexico throwing down the gauntlet. After all, in theory, anyway, hasn't the US required
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last night i handed the agent my wifes and my passports then birth certs and driver licenses for my son and his girl. he handed me back the birth
certs and ran our passports and told us to have a good night. we expected at least a tongue lashing but this guy was ultra cool!!!!
and the trip was EPIC!!!!! fotos coming in the weeks ahead......
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Today's San Diego U-T
No Passports to be required to enter Baja.
A Bad idea that didn't even get started.
But, the argument was interesting.
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Timo1
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I have a real stupid question
I must have missed something
If technicaly US citezens are required to have a passport when
returning to the US....Why don't you get them??
What would happen if one day they (CBP) decided to enforce this
and you were SOB
Why not just have one...Its pretty easy to do
Some posts seem to suggest there are americans traveling without a PP
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by Timo1]
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Bajahowodd
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Timo- The sad answer to your question is that Americans are among the most insular of societies. The US has an abysmal record as far as citizens
holding passports. I'm not sure if it's a matter of people who feel that they live in the greatest country in the world, so there's no reason to go
anywhere else, or whether it's just a matter of being incurious. You can look it up. Among the world's industrialized countries, we lag way behind in
passport ownership. I suppose that it doesn't hurt to know that our country has the incredibly greatest amount of armaments in the world. So, who's to
argue?
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Timo1
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but but but....an example
If I were a US citizen and decided to head for La Paz for 6 months.
I don't keep up with the news....meanwhile unbeknownst to me
CBP decided NO one returning to the US without a PP would be admitted.
Scramble time...right??
Why not just get one before you go without the panic ??
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Bajahowodd
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People were given a huge lead time. Perhaps the biggest loser in this was the nightly fiesta on Revolucion in TJ. As I mentioned in my previous post,
it just may be a matter of Americans simply not being interested in the rest of the world. Which would ultimately be a big mistake. As for your first
premise, the apparent fact of the day is that many Americans continue to cross the border S/B w?o passports, and the US immigration folks are
apparently under some sort of order to do very little than to tsk tsk them upon return.
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Timo1
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I guess Barb and I just think differently...we wouldn't travel anywhere without one
Thanks for the reply
Is it the money ??
Is it being lazy??
Or is it just seeing what one can get away with ??
Or.........
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Oh, we have them. That's not the point. The objection I had was to the length of time it would take to pass southbound if they checked everyone's
passport. I think everyone should have them and, you're right, if they're checked going north, one would think they needn't be checked going south.
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Bajahowodd
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Being incurious, I'm afraid. My wife and I have traveled the world. I've held a passport for decades. Once, when I lost mine, I was frantic to get it
replaced. It represents to me, a lifeline to other cultures. Sadly, too many Americans don't feel the same.
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Crocodile tears, my friend. The US started this crap. All because bureaucrats were able to take advantage of 9/11 panic. If you want to blame anyone
for this, try the Bush administration. Homeland Security, my culo! |
Acuerdo!!
bacquito
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I HAVE MINE AND MY PASSPORT CARD!
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Bajahowodd
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And?
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Howard, wait a minute let me find your Taser GIF. Don't go away.
Thanks for waiting!
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Bajahowodd
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I feel all tingly. Is that good?
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It will go away in a bit!
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woody with a view
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we felt like the kids didn't "NEED" passports for a one-time trip. cost is a factor, for sure. maybe it's the scofflaw in me trying to get away with
something?
all i know is the guy was COOL!!!! and the trip was EPIC!!!!
you guys do what you want.
oh, and i was the only one who got a 180 day fmt. the corksucker Mexican border b-tch said there are no free fmt's if we go past ensenada..... i wish
i woulda kept the one i had previously to stuff in his eye hole!!!
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marv sherrill
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To quote Antonio Rezendez from LA bay about the Escalera Nautica -" In typical Mexican fashion "the first thing that goes up are the signs!"
[Edited on 2-18-2010 by marv sherrill]
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oh, and i was the only one who got a 180 day fmt. the corksucker Mexican border b-tch said there are no free fmt's if we go past ensenada..... i wish
i woulda kept the one i had previously to stuff in his eye hole!!! |
the mexican immigration agents interpret the fmt rules as creatively as the us immigration agents enforce US law requiring passports
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