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mtgoat666
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according to the UT, the restaurant was mama espinosas. perhaps they died from bad food?
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Cypress
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Summer McStay AKA Lisa Aranda-Martelli? That's a clue. Look for her family contacts.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
according to the UT, the restaurant was mama espinosas. perhaps they died from bad food? |
That's only 222 miles from Guerrero Negro. And now, watch out for the wrath of David!
[Edited on 5-13-2010 by Bajahowodd]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Summer McStay AKA Lisa Aranda-Martelli? That's a clue. Look for her family contacts. |
It's been mentioned that they are in Colombia. No red flag there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabeachbabe
New information from CNN - may be in Baja
Gabriel Falcon
AC360� Writer
The brother of a Southern California man who disappeared along with his entire family reported a possible new lead in the three-month-old mystery.
Michael McStay said he learned through an investigator that a waiter believed he served Joseph McStay, his wife, Summer McStay, and their children,
Gianni, 4, and Jospeh, 3, at a restaurant in Guerrero Negro, Mexico in late February or early March.
Guerrero Negro is a city in the Mexican state of Baja California Sur.
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I wonder in which restaurant they were maybe served in G.N.?
The owner of the El Remedio Restaurant (not the managing partner, Noel) was murdered in his bedroom there around that time. The perp was never found.
Who knows if there may be any connection? Surely the FBI investigator would be on that if there were a possible connection. 
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David K
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Sounds like every restaurant in Baja is going to use this as a publicity stunt to get more business!
The local San Diego radio station news blipped that the search was ending by Mexican authorities after a lead they got in El Rosario turned up
nothing.
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http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_acf74a4f-...
By TERI FIGUEROA
May 12, 2010
Nearly three months after a family of four disappeared from their Fallbrook home, a relative said Wednesday there has been a "credible" tip that
places the missing people in central Baja California.
A waiter in the Mexican town of El Rosario reportedly saw the McStay family twice in late February, serving them dinner and then a brunch the
following morning, said Michael McStay.
The tip is the latest turn in the mystery of what happened to Joseph and Summer McStay and their two boys, Gianni, 4, and Joey Jr., 3. The last time
anyone heard from them was Feb. 4, and Joseph's brother Michael said he and other family members are confused and sick with worry.
Agent Darrell Foxworth, of the San Diego offices of the FBI, told NBC 7/39 on Wednesday that investigators were looking into a recent tip from Baja,
but declined to give further details. The FBI is assisting the San Diego Sheriff's Department in the investigation into the family's disappearance.
Michael McStay said a friend who was searching for the family in Mexico and passing out fliers last month spoke to a waiter from a restaurant known as
Mama Espinosa's.
The "most compelling" piece of information "without a doubt," Michael McStay said, was that the waiter mentioned, without prompting, that one of the
children he saw had a big red mark on his head.
Joey McStay Jr., 3, has a large birthmark on his forehead.
"To me, that was big," McStay said. "This tip is pretty good ---- but it's still just hearsay."
Michael McStay said the waiter also reported that the father in the family appeared to be ailing.
The waiter said that the family he served left behind a map of some sort. They restaurant had saved the map ---- and now that map has now been turned
over to investigators., Michael McStay said.
The worried brother said he is hopeful authorities will be able to lift fingerprints from the paper.
"If the authorities can extract something from it, that's good," Michael McStay said.
Michael McStay reported the family missing Feb. 15, after finding their dogs unattended, a carton of eggs on the kitchen counter and no sign of what
happened.
Their bank accounts, e-mail and cell phones have had no activity since they vanished, according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department.
Detectives have long raised the possibility that the family headed south of the border.
The family's car was found abandoned blocks from the San Ysidro crossing, and border crossing surveillance video shows a family ---- thought possibly
to be the McStays ---- walking toward Mexico.
But vanishing without notice, leaving their pets uncared for and failing to contact anyone is simply out of character for Joseph or Summer McStay,
their friends and family said.
Leaving is not illegal, but authorities said they are investigating the possibility that something is amiss or foul play may be involved.
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http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/12/missing-family-seen-wi...
...the waiter remembered that Joseph McStay �looked ill, he looked sick.�
�My understanding was in the last year he�d been having these vertigo type symptoms,� McStay said. �He was in the hospital for a couple of weeks, and
on the (February) 4, he was talking to my mother and he had to pull over when he was driving home because he felt vertigo type symptoms.�
The Mcstays have not been seen or heard from since February 4.
Information gathered on the McStay's home computer reveal the couple was making travel inquires about Mexico on the internet a week before they were
reported missing, authorities said.
�It had to do with travel in Mexico with children and whether you needed to have passports for children,� Lt. Dennis Brugos, of the San Diego
Sheriff�s Department said. �It looks as if there were some planning.�
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http://www.10news.com/news/23536548/detail.html
The ray of hope is a map that the family may have left behind. Staff at Mama Espinosa�s restaurant said the family that resembled the McStays left the
map after they ate.
Michael McStay said the FBI is now testing fingerprints found on the map and expects the results within a few days.
�If they can get a partial or anything then I�m gonna know they definitely had their hands on it,� said McStay.
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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/McStay-Family-Spo...
Neither Joseph nor Summer McStay is fluent in Spanish, according to relatives. Summer McStay's passport is expired. Their youngest son's birth
certificate, required for re-entry to the United States by minors under 16, is with a grandmother, relatives said.
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/12/investigators...
By Leslie Berestein
May 12, 2010
Since early in the investigation and especially following the computer search, it has been presumed that the family is in Mexico. While there have
been previous reports of sightings elsewhere, Michael McStay said this latest sighting in Baja California has given him more hope.
�It sounds like this is more substantial,� he said. �It is way more substantial than the first two. It seems more credible. He wasn�t prompted to make
a comment about the birthmark.�
Arenas said that state agents would spend the next two days combing the region surrounding El Rosario, which sits inland from the Pacific. The area,
which is dotted with small ranches, tends to attract a few U.S. retirees, he said, though most northerners just pass through. While it�s unlikely the
family is still there, he said the hope is that there will at least be more concrete evidence that they indeed passed through, and if so, pointers as
to their whereabouts.
�We are being hopeful that they bring back some positive identification, that they were there,� Arenas said. �Or even better, that they find them.�
Michael McStay said that according to the friend who stopped at the restaurant, one staff member had mentioned that the father in the family looked
unwell, and this worries him.
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we had an interesting visit from a friend of the family yesterday who is searching the small villages for this family. There are now flyers up
everywhere and it's the talk of the town as it is possible they were seen in central baja as well....so keep your eyes out Nomads particularly for the
little boy with the red birthmark on his forehead.
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what ever happened to the theory that they were surviving a a large quantity of cash that was smuggled into his factory inside a large concrete
fountain from Mexico
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
.. it is possible they were seen in central baja as well |
Here's my take on being seen in "Central Baja"...
- It was initially reported by some news sources that they were seen at Mama Espinosa's in El Rosario.
- After that, it was then reported by others (same incident) they were seen in "Central Baja".
- After than, it was then reported by CNN (same incident) they were seen in Guerrero Negro.
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It's just about as clear as Virginia Lisa Aranda-Martelli Summer McStay.
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Trying to find a family of four, with a kid with a very visible birthmark, can't be that much of a task. But, then again, maybe the same
investigators/CIA agents/FBI, that were trying to find Bin Laden are on the case.
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Bajahowodd
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So, should we invade a country that isn't a threat to us, instead of looking for this family?
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I saw several posters along the way on my trip to Mulege and back last month. I don't remember a cash reward for info leading to them. Seems like a
logical thing to do.
Is there one?
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I think the noose is tightening around this family. I mean, where can they go on the Peninsula and not be recognized?
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Bajahowodd
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You bring up a point. Assuming that they did flee to Baja, it just seems to me that they would have had a better chance for anonymity if they went to
the mainland.
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