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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:03 PM


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This is exactly the ignorance that the government and conspirators count on and the ignorance that guarantees the problem will never be solved.



How many rolls of tinfoil do you use to make a hat? :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:12 PM
OK, then...


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This is exactly the ignorance that the government and conspirators count on and the ignorance that guarantees the problem will never be solved.


I'm an idiot.

Explain it to me.

Outline the conspiracy and the problem and how you think it should be solved.

And please, no links.




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:20 PM


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Thats what I figured. Between you three you cant come up with an intelligent and logical argument against anything that was presented. Also I am sure that you didn't look any of it up, research it or watch the information. Too bad.

Dennis says "I paid my part and paid my dues". What a crock! Talk about not taking responsibility. Wow.

Thats OK though. And woosh - seems to me like it's you guys that are continuously pointing fingers.

Arrowhead - seems you can't count too well. But that's OK.

Now the playground is getting fun.


Tell ya what. You write Calderon a letter and encourage him to reverse the Mexican brain drain. Ask every Mexican with higher education and advanced skills to come home and save their country. The uneducated, undocumented Mexicans can stay in the USA for now. Mexico needs the remittances and there are jobs Americans just won't do.

When people from every nation stop clawing over each other to gain entry to the USA- then I will worry it's not the best place to be. Not saying it's perfect by any means but people vote for a better future for themselves, their children and their families with their feet, no their mouths..




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:23 PM


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Speaking of interesting Mexican names, try Carlos Slim Helu.


Reflects the Moorish influence on Spain in the Crusades.
Think about...Every Mexican other than the Indigenous have a touch of the Taliban in their blood.


Uh oh. The Moors were a black race from northern Africa. They intermarried with Sicilians too- which gives Sicilians that beautiful deep brown skin tone. Are you implying Mexicans... nah.

[Edited on 3-19-2010 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:32 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by Donjulio

This is exactly the ignorance that the government and conspirators count on and the ignorance that guarantees the problem will never be solved.



How many rolls of tinfoil do you use to make a hat? :lol:



Insults are not a very good substitute for intelligence Dennis. You said you were prepared for this conversation and debate but apparently you can't provide substantial information to do so.

And Dave. The links are because some people want to cry conspiracy theory when this is common public knowledge that was revealed in house and senate hearings. The CIA has been found to have involvement in drug trafficking in:

Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia
Afganistan
Iran
Venezuela
Haiti
Pananma

So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.

Sorry but heres another link - I think you will find this story really interesting. http://www.madcowprod.com/01162008.html

See I have no problem backing up my opinions.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:49 PM


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So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.


If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:51 PM


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Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Speaking of interesting Mexican names, try Carlos Slim Helu.


Reflects the Moorish influence on Spain in the Crusades.
Think about...Every Mexican other than the Indigenous have a touch of the Taliban in their blood.


Uh oh. The Moors were a black race from northern Africa. They intermarried with Sicilians too- which gives Sicilians that beautiful deep brown skin tone. Are you implying Mexicans... nah.

[Edited on 3-19-2010 by Woooosh]



What does Lebanon have to do with the Moors? Slim's family is from the Middle East.

As for the Moors, most folks don't realize they were Muslim, and at their peak, controlled a great deal of the civilized world. The Moors were not black, but were Arabic. For centuries, and even to a certain extent today, Spain appears to be different countries, what with Catalonia abutting North Africa.

As for the New World Order conspiracy cult crowd.....It was bad enough under Bush while the economy was still looking good. Sprinkle in a near-depression and a black president, and it tends to pump up the volume.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 12:59 PM


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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Speaking of interesting Mexican names, try Carlos Slim Helu.


Reflects the Moorish influence on Spain in the Crusades.
Think about...Every Mexican other than the Indigenous have a touch of the Taliban in their blood.


Uh oh. The Moors were a black race from northern Africa. They intermarried with Sicilians too- which gives Sicilians that beautiful deep brown skin tone. Are you implying Mexicans... nah.

[Edited on 3-19-2010 by Woooosh]



What does Lebanon have to do with the Moors? Slim's family is from the Middle East.

As for the Moors, most folks don't realize they were Muslim, and at their peak, controlled a great deal of the civilized world. The Moors were not black, but were Arabic. For centuries, and even to a certain extent today, Spain appears to be different countries, what with Catalonia abutting North Africa.

As for the New World Order conspiracy cult crowd.....It was bad enough under Bush while the economy was still looking good. Sprinkle in a near-depression and a black president, and it tends to pump up the volume.

you mean the "birthers"?




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:02 PM


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Originally posted by Donjulio
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Donjulio

This is exactly the ignorance that the government and conspirators count on and the ignorance that guarantees the problem will never be solved.



How many rolls of tinfoil do you use to make a hat? :lol:



Insults are not a very good substitute for intelligence Dennis. You said you were prepared for this conversation and debate but apparently you can't provide substantial information to do so.

And Dave. The links are because some people want to cry conspiracy theory when this is common public knowledge that was revealed in house and senate hearings. The CIA has been found to have involvement in drug trafficking in:

Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia
Afganistan
Iran
Venezuela
Haiti
Pananma

So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.

Sorry but heres another link - I think you will find this story really interesting. http://www.madcowprod.com/01162008.html

See I have no problem backing up my opinions.


I don't doubt the CIA has been involved in a great number of unsavory deals. The USA has befriended and turned against a many countries over the years. So what? Times and needs change. At least the USA has a CIA... :o

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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:20 PM


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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:24 PM


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So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.


If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:29 PM
Cryptic to a Fault


There is one aspect to the drug trade that is actually self-serving and self-sustaining. That be the legions of folks involved directly or indirectly with the war on drugs. Just seems to me that uncountable numbers of folks make their livings, and in many cases, acquire huge profits from participating in the charade.

As for the CIA, not so much. They have other fish to fry and have to keep tabs on all the dirty laundry around the world.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:33 PM


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If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????


Is that it? What do we have to do? Buy a vowel?
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:51 PM
No, not kidding


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So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.


If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????


What would be the CIA's interest in destabilizing a neighbor with whom we share close political, social and economic ties... not to mention a vast common border?

How does hurting Mexico help us?

What's the upside?




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 01:57 PM


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Originally posted by Donjulio
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Originally posted by Dave
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So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.


If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????


What would be the CIA's interest in destabilizing a neighbor with whom we share close political, social and economic ties... not to mention a vast common border?

How does hurting Mexico help us?

What's the upside?


And Mexico is not a country the USA wants to put its flag on for sure... :saint:




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 02:04 PM


Actually, if you read some of the literature (and I use the term loosely) put out by the whacko conspiracy theorists, one of the first agenda items is to form a single nation on North America. So, I'm guessing that if you put on the moccasins and tin foil hats they wear, one might conclude that if Mexico implodes, it will be the reason that can be used to occupy it.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 02:48 PM


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Americans are well aware of the history. They most recent watched as Saddam Hussein went from darling to dangling. What's your reference point of truth and the correct path? Red China, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Venezuela, Rawanda, No one?

My American relatives argue about the current healthcare debate, my Mexican relatives argue if it's safe to leave the house with their city's police force on strike. One country is revolutionary by origin, the other is the opposite. The USA was even brave enough to fight their own civil war. Can you imagine that in Mexico where only one side has guns? Very different animals.

Mexico's system was perfectly fine for a third-world agrarian society- but the system doesn't work on the world stage... as you are seeing today in Juarez.

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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 02:54 PM


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Actually, if you read some of the literature (and I use the term loosely) put out by the whacko conspiracy theorists, one of the first agenda items is to form a single nation on North America. So, I'm guessing that if you put on the moccasins and tin foil hats they wear, one might conclude that if Mexico implodes, it will be the reason that can be used to occupy it.


Didn't they try to give the USA Baja once and the USA didn't want it?

Don't worry about La Raza taking back their country. They don't want it either. La Raza held a huge convention in San Diego at the height of the Narco violence. Their #1 Emergency Topic was not the drug violence or Mexico slipping away to become a failed state. The #1 Topic was how the mortgage crisis is impacting Mexicans living in the USA... what mattered most to them was protecting their wealth. It's always about money.




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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 02:56 PM


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Quote:
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If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????


Is that it? What do we have to do? Buy a vowel?


Pssst, Dennis, your ignorance is starting to show.
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[*] posted on 3-19-2010 at 03:03 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
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Originally posted by Donjulio
So its a stretch to think they are behind Mexico too? Come on.


If the CIA is involved then please tell us...

why?


Are you freaking kidding me?????


What would be the CIA's interest in destabilizing a neighbor with whom we share close political, social and economic ties... not to mention a vast common border?

How does hurting Mexico help us?

What's the upside?


Earth to gnukid, earth to gnukid, come in please......

Dave needs indoctrination.




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