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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 03:54 PM


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I have a modern one that has electronic device on one end that beeps when the water level hits the level mark.



Oh, yeah....I have one of those as well. I had some trouble with it at the start of my job and was unable to trust it since then. I canned the brainy end and kept the hose.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 04:05 PM


Right on. Now we got kat, and the real estate speculators that don't know what a water level is, helping this poor guy build a house.



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Look what the Kat dragged in. Miss Congeniality.

About water levels....they are perfect. I use one about max 50 feet long and I keep it coiled in the shed full of water and plugged at the ends ready to go.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 05:47 PM


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Here is what a water level is, and what it does.

I have a modern one that has electronic device on one end that beeps when the water level hits the level mark.

I also have a $1000 builders transit, that does the same thing. however. the water level is a $25 item that can be thrown in the dirt, stepped on, thrown in the back of a truck, loaned out to workers and if it gets stolen...oh well.

My Transit is in a storage locker for that reason.


http://www.buildeazy.com/fp_waterlevel.html

Remember K.I.S.S.

Keep It Simple Stupid

This applies in MX as well as anywhere else..

If you require a laser level on your project, the price will probably be higher than $45/ft2.

Gnukid...

The guy that posted that said he knows you...seems to be on par with your commentary towards me....what is it...you can dish it out...but not take it? and all I said thanks for the input and welcome...should I have bashed him like you attempted to do to me? :?::?:

Personal Attacks!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


[Edited on 6-16-2010 by fishabductor]



that is really neat
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 09:21 PM


Water levels are one of the most accurate level methods and are very cheap to make. All you need is a milk jug and some clear plastic tubing, water ALWAY'S seeks it's own level. This was the method boat builders used for hundreds of years and is still good today, yeah there are lasers and all that stuff:light::light: but a water level will do you just fine.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 09:36 PM


Water Levels: We used water levels all the time to set the corners of large table saws whenever we moved or re-arraigned our shop. A few weeks ago I saw Tom Silva (This Old House) use a water level to set the corners of a window sill. Tom said he always uses a water level whenever it's important to get it dead level. Norm stood there and nodded his head in agreement. Who's gonna argue with these two guys?
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 12:37 AM


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Gnukid...

The guy that posted that said he knows you...seems to be on par with your commentary towards me....what is it...you can dish it out...but not take it? and all I said thanks for the input and welcome...should I have bashed him like you attempted to do to me? :?::?:

Personal Attacks!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


[Edited on 6-16-2010 by fishabductor]


I was trying to help, I made a clear point, that when building in Baja, when you have a tight budget and a small project, a manager who isn't doing labor isn't necessarily going to help quality or lower costs. I wasn't bashing you personally, I was critical of the role you suggested.

Electronic communication being what it is makes subtle points often mis-interpreted and that is my fault. I am sorry that happened, but I will persist to try to help others if I feel like it and I hope you do too, it can't hurt to add our experience, politely.

Once more to clarify, in baja we don't often use managers who don't do labor, when that has happened it sends a confusing message to the team unless the manager is someone who clearly can not do construction labor such as a grandmother.

I am sure you are capable of managing, I only related my personal experience which has nothing to do with you personally, except in so far as the role you proposed as an outside hands-off manager expert.

Good luck classicbroncolowtideturtleeaterfishabductorconstructionnolaborguy



[Edited on 6-17-2010 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 01:25 AM


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Bob,

I happen to be a Construction engineer with over 20 years of construction experience. See my classified ad...I am also classic bronco. I am killing the Classic bronco screename as of today...
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 06:50 AM


my guess is KAT54 does not have english as a 1st language.
i am thinking it is hispanic or east European.

never seen or heard of a "water level" in all my years in const and development, since 1978 basically.
if it works for some - fine with me.
different training, different tools, different methods.
is a computer better than a slide rule?
is a printing calculator better than a big chief tablet and no. 2 pencil?

as long as it leads to quality it is ok by me.
but - sinse for me anyway time is $$ i tend to gravitate towards whatever leads to efficiencies.

note to Soulpatch - email me about a superior insulated block shell system.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 07:59 AM


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never seen or heard of a "water level" in all my years in const and development, since 1978 basically.



Here ya go, Mike.

http://www.factsfacts.com/MyHomeRepair/WaterLevel.htm

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Jes kiddin', Bro.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 08:15 AM


the insulated CMU block system i use is not a foam block system. it is superior. not comparable to the systems abductor references above..
not integra, nor rasta, not ice block nor ICF or panel system.
it is unique. and proprietary so must be licensed thru the mfgr and patent holder. Think advantages of thick Adobe with none of the headaches of installation.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 12:09 PM


CaptMike and fishabductor are both builders.
Do they have pictures of houses built in Baja?
NO
Why would anyone trust these guys without referances?
Can you answer that?
At least we know CaptMikes name.
Bit i am just an idoiioottt
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 12:36 PM


And I am the idoit?
SENTANCE is the improper spelling of sentence by a high strung person, normally a Republican.
Can you show us pictures of your projects in Baja that you oversaw?
NO?
NONE?
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 01:02 PM


KAT54 is a he? I assumed it was a she, Kat, short for Kathy, Kranky or something like that.
So...it's Norm? Sorry Norm. Nice to meet you.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 01:04 PM


Kat54 is a mystery, but sometimes seems rather perceptive; not so other times.

[Edited on 6-17-2010 by DianaT]




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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 01:20 PM


"by a high strung person, normally a Republican"
whaaaaat????!!!!

THIS IS REALLY getting to be hilariously funny...!! hahahaha.

the shell system i refer to is not for everyone especially for baja but for a discriminating client IN BAJA they could really benefit. it is based on typ CMU modularity and any mex mason and stucco crew can be trained on it in a day. ditto mechanical and elec trades.
the material would have to be shipped yes as no block plants in mexico have the molds or the styro components.
the upcharge in the states ranges only 10% over other CMU or foam stick stucco systems - and there are savings in furring and drywall offsetting because of the system. ditto electro mechanical rough-ins.
one semi truck load drop of material req'd for a casita likely - so whatever trucking would be and import. Like i said not for everyone and certainly not for bargain basement hunters.
how does R-50 on the walls sound? and zero heat transfer or thermonic migration. you basically can be in a cave constant environment, thermal mass coefficients which are killer, so energy demand for heat / cool loads is nada. perfect for a home in hi temp climates that's why so many here in arrid AZ are going to this system - plus NO termite issues. Ever.

i am not a builder in mexico KAT54 so don't call me for a quote please!!
hahaha...




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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 02:12 PM


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And I am the idoit?
SENTANCE is the improper spelling of sentence by a high strung person, normally a Republican.
Can you show us pictures of your projects in Baja that you oversaw?
NO?
NONE?
Sounds like someone needs to lay off the Sterno.:lol:
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 02:26 PM


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Dennis...

Norm could be short for Norma.


I guess we'll rule out Normal. :lol:
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 03:41 PM


Na, even most idiots can spell idiot. :lol:
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 03:55 PM


MY FAVORITE hand TOOL of all time used in finish work is called a "lesbian rule"
who here knows what it is and what it does.
how it got its name well you can guess.

old timers will know. young guys...maybe not.:lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 07:05 PM


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Got me on the "lesbian tool", I may be too young at 37.


Mike is just trying to show us what a scholar he is:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~jrlucas/lesbrule.html
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