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Gypsy Jan
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No Unusual Wave Surges in Rosarito on our West Facing Beach
We've been watching the water action all day long and even put up a camera to record it.
The Cal Tech seismologist held a news conference earlier today.
Two very interesting things were said that were said stuck with me.
1. As far as the west coast of California is concerned, a "very tall" tsunami would crest at four feet. Whew! We are seventeen feet above mean high
tide.
2. The entire east coast of Japan has shifted eight feet outwards. Yikes!
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
2. The entire east coast of Japan has shifted eight feet outwards. Yikes! |
I am reminded of how Anjin San saved Lord Toranaga!
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Woooosh
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I'm starting to give credence to the "world ends on 12/21/2012 people". Between escalating natural disasters, north Africa and Mid-East political
instability and the teetering world economy I'm almost willing to give that Mayan calendar thing the benefit of the doubt. It seems everything is
percolating.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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MrBillM
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The Drama Continues
Quake, Tsunami AND Soon .........
Nuclear Reactor MELTDOWN ?
THAT'S Entertainment !
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landyacht318
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By 9:00 am, when I saw the ocean drain out a whole 6 inches here in North County, I went surfing, and had it to myself for almost 2 hours before A
light crowd formed.
However, the swell seemed to climb from knee to waist high to chest to neck high in about 20 minutes. There is a new swell forecast to fill in
tomorrow, but it seemed to have filled in completely by sundown today.
Whether the swell forecast was just wrong, or the Tsunami sped up it's arrival, I know not.
The hundreds of spectators lining the bluff must have thousands of ocean photos taken by their cell phones showing absolutely nothing. Never the less,
the hordes were there expounding on their vast knowledge of earthquakes and plate tectonics as I walked by them, shuddering at the inaccuracy and
downright ignorance of their statements.
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El Jefe
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East Cape Report. I was down sitting on the beach 4:20 PM yesterday watching the "tide" go in and out. It was literaly going from high tide to low
tide in a matter of two minutes. One minute the reef is exposed and the next, after a set of about six close interval waves, the reef it is under
water. It was at least a three foot swing in depth. Crazy. It was doing it over and over again. In-shore waters were all stirred up.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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ElCap
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I watched the surges hit Ocean Beach (San Francisco) yesterday morning about 8:30am. Went from low tide to high tide to low tide in about 6 minutes.
Very impressive, but if you were not looking at the tidal change you would have missed it. No noticeable wave size increase (the waves were already
big, as usual). There was substantial damage at Santa Cruz Harbor and Crescent City where the harbor mouth orientation and constriction, combined
with a large volume of water within harbor with nowhere else to go, created extreme currents caused by the tidal surges.
I'm curious if locations like La Bocana in Baja experienced similar effects. That place seems perfect for that type of effect. Any reports from
there? Or other similar estuary mouths? Or Turtle Bay, Laguna San Ignacio, Campo Rene? Gracias.
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Skipjack Joe
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Glad you brought that up as I almost posted the same thought. Having seen and fished the current going and coming into Laguna Manuela I can just
imagine what it must have been like. A raging river. The entire lagoon needs to empty out in, what, 15 minutes. I wonder if that guard shack by the
mouth is still standing. Or the pangas in the inlet by the mouth.
On the other hand perhaps the shorter wave length would cause the water to start coming in before the lagoon has drained. That would counteract or
shorten the time of the water surges and dampen the effect of moving water.
Those openings must have been the highlight of the effect this tsunami had on baja.
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by Skipjack Joe]
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MrBillM
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Well, at least, we Now KNOW WHY
Despite the Speculation that the Tokyo Shake-and-Tsunami "might" have been a Submarine Nuclear Event planned at a secret meeting on the Island of
Malta guarded by the Knights Templar working under the direct orders of a Neo-Conservative group loyal to George Bush headed by Dick Cheney and Donald
Rumsfeld working in close cooperation with the Governing board of the Illuminati under the close watch of the Bilderberg Group after receiving input
from the International Freemasons having received a directive from the Supreme Elite Cabal of Jewish Bankers resulting from their secret council with
the Pope, the OFFICIAL word has come from Europe:
It was a result of: GLOBAL WARMING.
OF COURSE.
Glad that's settled.
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captkw
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check out the www santa cruz sentinel ..... my harbor, in santa cruz ca. got hit HARD!! as a boat mechanic I will be ending my b.c.s winter,
bummer..
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by captkw]
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BornFisher
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I think I`m the only one on the coast who knew nothing about the quake until I was getting pushed back and forth in La Salina harbor after fishing.
Left the dock to go out fishing about 7:30, came back at 12:30 and stopped in the basin to clean fish. Then it was "what the heck is going on here?".
The harbor was like a river, coming in one minute and going back out the next.
Thoughts and prayers go out the the people of Japan.
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captkw
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uhhh,, where is la salina???
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Gypsy Jan
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La Salina Marina
Hi captkw,
Here is the Wikipedia info on the place, but YMMV (take it with a grain of salt, your mileage may vary).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Salina,_Baja_California
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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MrBillM
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Another "Possible" Cause ?
My wife has theorized that it "might" have been a result of Godzilla Awakening and Rising Once Again.
BUT, if so, he (she ?) hasn't been seen and neither has Raymond Burr, which could possibly be the first indicator.
I'm a bit skeptical, but Quien Sabe ?
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bajaguy
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La Salina
Is located on the Toll Road (Highway 1) betwen Ensenada and Rosarito
http://www.baja-web.com/la-salina/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/4tdg6w8
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by bajaguy]
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MrBillM
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Disaster Economics
Although I wouldn't make the case, reading the coverage this a.m. regarding the Death and Destruction, it occurred to me that an argument "might" be
made that the BIGGEST problem with these events is that the Death vs. Destruction ratio is too disparate. Given that People need resources and
infrastructure, IF the Death rate was significantly higher, it would offset the loss of resource necessary to support those numbers. In a situation
where the economic losses are in the Billions (or Hundreds of Billions) and the loss of life in the Hundreds or (maybe) thousands, there will always
be a disabling economic loss. But, of course, it is unlikely that we'll ever see a disaster where there's a sort of Equilibrium. In the past,
Bangladesh seems to have come closer to achieving a more positive ratio, but even there, it has still remained a wide gap.
Certainly a Conundrum wrapped within an Enigma.
Got that from watching "JFK" (again) last night.
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by MrBillM]
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monoloco
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Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Although I wouldn't make the case, reading the coverage this a.m. regarding the Death and Destruction, it occurred to me that an argument "might" be
made that the BIGGEST problem with these events is that the Death vs. Destruction ratio is too disparate. Given that People need resources and
infrastructure, IF the Death rate was significantly higher, it would offset the loss of resource necessary to support those numbers. In a situation
where the economic losses are in the Billions (or Hundreds of Billions) and the loss of life in the Hundreds or (maybe) thousands, there will always
be a disabling economic loss. But, of course, it is unlikely that we'll ever see a disaster where there's a sort of Equilibrium. In the past,
Bangladesh seems to have come closer to achieving a more positive ratio, but even there, it has still remained a wide gap.
Certainly a Conundrum wrapped within an Enigma.
Got that from watching "JFK" (again) last night.
[Edited on 3-12-2011 by MrBillM] | It's good to see that you haven't lost your ability to make a cynical joke
about a tragic disaster.
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Bajahowodd
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No kidding. My only question, even after all these years, is whether he is merely a thoughtless provocateur, or a scummy A-hole.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
No kidding. My only question, even after all these years, is whether he is merely a thoughtless provocateur, or a scummy A-hole.
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He may be a lot of things, but "thoughtless" isn't one of them.
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Bajahowodd
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OK. How about insensitive?
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