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David K
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Ivan's input is what lead to TRD Off Road Tacomas... why they are made so well and just don't break down in Baja.
Just having fun with you Ken... I just want you to not stop going to Baja because of troubles with your rig! More Baja, more fun!
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Ken Cooke
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The only thing that prevents multiple trips to Baja is the house note. The Jeep needs a little TLC with regard to the gasket between the engine and
the water pump and the maybe the shock pin. The current shock pen is made of forged steel, so it probably isn't an issue at this time, though.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
After adjusting my rear shocks from 'soft' to 'firm', the shock load transferred to the shock pin, and KER-POW!
If Touristas like me don't keep slowing these guys down, "Easy Street" will reach Laguna Chapala by July! 
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Ok, so it looks like one to many tacos and maybe a few to many cervezas 
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redhilltown
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Ivan's input is what lead to TRD Off Road Tacomas... why they are made so well and just don't break down in Baja.
Just having fun with you Ken... I just want you to not stop going to Baja because of troubles with your rig! More Baja, more fun!
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I happen to be a 30+ year Toyota guy too but I certainly understand the Jeep thang and what comes with it. Many a time in the Inyo or Panamint
mountains I have wished for something just a TAD smaller 
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mtgoat666
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2wd (buick?) station wagon rescues blinged out jeep
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
After adjusting my rear shocks from 'soft' to 'firm', the shock load transferred to the shock pin, and KER-POW!
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from the picture it looks like your 4wd was rescued by a very low clearance 2wd station wagon 
[Edited on 5-18-2011 by mtgoat666]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redhilltown
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Ivan's input is what lead to TRD Off Road Tacomas... why they are made so well and just don't break down in Baja.
Just having fun with you Ken... I just want you to not stop going to Baja because of troubles with your rig! More Baja, more fun!
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I happen to be a 30+ year Toyota guy too but I certainly understand the Jeep thang and what comes with it. Many a time in the Inyo or Panamint
mountains I have wished for something just a TAD smaller |
Agree! A CJ-5 is sure the ultimate bobcat 4WD... The Wrangler TJ Rubicon (like Ken's) is also good (when it is running)... The new JK big Wranglers, I
am not so sure of... and the 4 door JK is just as big as a Hummer H3... Heck, I would like to have an old Willys-Overland CJ-3A. M-38, MB or CJ-2A to
really get around tight spots... That would be fun!
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redhilltown
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I think we all agree that no matter what you drive, getting out there is the main thing!
What never fails to amaze me is that in the desert southwest and Baja so many of the isolated roads are old mining roads...to this day I can't believe
what the lure of gold and silver did to these men! To stand before an old mine and think that horses and burros dragged most of the equipment up to
the places is beyond belief! Even after trucks did the work there was no Kragen or parts suppliers nearby. These guys were mad and every time I
drive their roads I salute their madness.
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TMW
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They had a dream and lived it.
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David K
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Dick Daggett and Arturo Grosso are both responsible for many roads in that area of Baja. Grosso built the first road between his ranch (Laguna
Chapala) and San Felipe... (the sulfur mine)... mid 1950's.
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Ken Cooke
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2wd Mercury Tracer Wagon repaired before my Jeep in picture
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
from the picture it looks like your 4wd was rescued by a very low clearance 2wd station wagon
[Edited on 5-18-2011 by mtgoat666] |
Running to the machine shop to drill improvised shock pin.
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Roberto
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Is there any possibility that the quality of the aftermarket parts you choose is part of the problem. I mean, it seems that every time you take a trip
to Baja something breaks, and usually more than one thing.
What happened on the road to San Francisquito last time you went down there. I'm not competing with you or anything, but that road is not that bad for
a properly prepped off-road vehicle. We drive that around 60+ mph, and we're drivin' Fords and Dodges.
Just askin'?
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Ken Cooke
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Our Jeeps were okay. It must have been the Subaru.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Is there any possibility that the quality of the aftermarket parts you choose is part of the problem. I mean, it seems that every time you take a trip
to Baja something breaks, and usually more than one thing.
What happened on the road to San Francisquito last time you went down there. I'm not competing with you or anything, but that road is not that bad for
a properly prepped off-road vehicle. We drive that around 60+ mph, and we're drivin' Fords and Dodges.
Just askin'? |
Our group drove to San Francisquito at night, in the dark.
No problems, breakdowns, nada.
We did stumble upon a downed aircraft in San Francisquito.
We did come upon this Subaru with throttle problems. Must have been dust in the intake?
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Is there any possibility that the quality of the aftermarket parts you choose is part of the problem. |
The parts for the shock absorber were standard, OEM design parts. If I were to upgrade to a heavy duty bar pin elimator, the problem should be gone,
since the bottom shock mounts are welded in place, not redesigned shock-shifters.
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Roberto
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Guess I was wrong. Thought I remembered a post from you after the trip re: shocks and that rear carrier you have on the back of the jeep having to be
replaced/rewelded or something like that.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Guess I was wrong. Thought I remembered a post from you after the trip re: shocks and that rear carrier you have on the back of the jeep having to be
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The aftermarket (not stock) rear tire carrier had to be rewelded at its' frame mounts because it was breaking along those frame mounts.
The Pro-Comp MX-6 shocks caused the shock pin to break due to the force caused on that weak link.
The Garvin Wilderness Carrier with all of the options on my Jeep retails at $1400.00 A single Pro-Comp MX-6 shock retails at $100. These are not
cheap aftermarket parts. They are considered to be the best Jeep products available for the TJ Wrangler platform.
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Desertbull
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Yo, boss, those Pro Comp $100 emulsion shocks are DONE after 50-miles on any washboard in the world. They heat up the oil so quickly they turn to
mush. They are good in the Jeep - Moab world for bouncing around the red rocks, but not even close for the real dirt, you go down that washboard
south and then into Calamajue Wash and that oil is cooked and you might as well have water in those shocks.
Just sayin...you need servicable shocks that are tunable, can replace the oil, adjust with compression and rebound tubes, etc..etc..if you're really
going to do it right.
Just friendly debating that's all...
I haven't seen many Jeeps that can withstand a 3500-mile Baja trip following me and Roberto to places even the King of Baja has never been...those
Jeeps can drive up some steep stuff..but well you know...just sayin!
DB
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Guess I was wrong. Thought I remembered a post from you after the trip re: shocks and that rear carrier you have on the back of the jeep having to be
replaced/rewelded or something like that. |
The aftermarket (not stock) rear tire carrier had to be rewelded at its' frame mounts because it was breaking along those frame mounts.
The Pro-Comp MX-6 shocks caused the shock pin to break due to the force caused on that weak link.
The Garvin Wilderness Carrier with all of the options on my Jeep retails at $1400.00 A single Pro-Comp MX-6 shock retails at $100. These are not
cheap aftermarket parts. They are considered to be the best Jeep products available for the TJ Wrangler platform. |
 
[Edited on 5-20-2011 by Desertbull]
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Ken Cooke
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I've heard this opinion over and over about Pro-Comp shocks, but their valving has stayed the same and they're not MUSH like I have been warned about
over and over on-line. Take a ride in my Jeep, and see for yourself.
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David K
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Ken, Desert Bull is very closely connected with the off road racing industry... and his HEAVY Dodge truck flys over the Gonzaga Washboard like greased
lightning. I would say his opinion of shock technology was actually fact.
Bilstein, Fox, and King are the shocks of competition used by Professionals... not so much 'ProComp' which is a house brand of Four Wheel Parts
stores, made by (?).
Remember my step-son Josh works for Craig Stewart (Ivan's son)... in fact he is working 7 days this week getting race trucks ready for the Baja 500...
You don't see any ProComp stuff going on those vehicles. Just something to consider... why spend money twice when you can buy something better just
once?
Have a great weekend...
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Ken Cooke
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If I had $400/shock, I would run King shocks on all 4 corners. $Bling$ $Bling$
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David K
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That's pocket change for a world traveler like you, Ken! This is for your baby, the one you love, your Jeep!
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