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Cypress
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The younger Mexican children accept the corruption and learn to pay a mordida the better they will do in their society when they grow up to be
corrupt officials. |
Ohhhlordy..........well, they won't all be in the government...I hope.
What are they squeezing from these kids? Their lunch money? |
I doubt they get much money- it's the power trip they are after. They know once the word gets out everyone will give them the money and they won't
even have to ask. It'll just be the dues you pay. Americans wonder why Mexicans barter their freedom with police, for permits at City Hall or to get
out of trouble at an accident scene. They are raised to accept defeat and to surrender to the corruption and accept they will never have control of
their lives. Who is allowing this? Everyone. Even us for being here. The Spanish brought their convoluted form of Oligarchy with them- and it all
went downhill from there to where we are today.
There is no way out, it is too late. Even the president says there is "truth" and a "Legal truth". What about Hank Rohn having the actual gun that
murdered a man? the Legal Truth. No Mr. president there is just one truth- it's your legal system that is the lie and you admit it. The four men
who did the Monterrey casino bombing where 60 were killed last month were released today because the legal system couldn't charge them. This was
after they killed the entire family of the Monterrey Policeman who identified them. When the legal system is this much a mismatch for the level of
crime taking place- crime wins- and that's if all the players were honest. Very sad and now it is here.
[Edited on 9-17-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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805gregg
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This crap is everywhere, I was talking to my hair cutter a Mexicana, she told me about her uncle in Guadalajara, he owns a shoe store, first he was
robbed 3 times by some local youth gangs. Then the cartel guys came to him and said, " we will protect you", the cartel guys beat the hell out of the
locals, so now he pays protection to the cartel, who would choose to live with this BS, if they didn't have to.
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chrisx
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zero rupees
http://www.zerorupees.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/0-rupee...
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by chrisx]
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES
SCAN THE ROAD AHEAD AT ALL TIMES
HIT THE BRAKES AND SLOW WAY DOWN
WAIT, PASS WHEN SAFE
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES!
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Woooosh
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do they make those for pesos?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Packoderm
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Jesse, the best response at this point is, "Whatever."
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Packoderm
Jesse, the best response at this point is, "Whatever." |
Nope. The correct response is "I was wrong, things are changing and it is here in TJ now too". But he'd never admit it and "whatever" is a coward's
response to what is happening to these children in Tijuana. seriously.
This is no longer an academic debate because we are living in it here. Tell you what, drive to that school in TJ Monday afternoon and be there to say
"whatever" to kids as they pay their dues to get home safe. Better yet, offer the kids a safe ride home in your car and see how far you make it.
You'll be a dead pinata on the PeMex bridge by rush hour. That's the reality in Mexico, and it's here in TJ too and no one can stop it at this point.
The will to stop it isn't there because enforceable laws in the courts aren't there. Crime pays and everyone in Mexico knows it.
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Lobsterman
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Thanks for sharing your personal observations of Mexico's criminal justice system today. Reality is on your side. Stay safe my friend.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The younger Mexican children accept the corruption and learn to pay a mordida the better they will do in their society when they grow up to be
corrupt officials. |
Ohhhlordy..........well, they won't all be in the government...I hope.
What are they squeezing from these kids? Their lunch money? |
I doubt they get much money- it's the power trip they are after. They know once the word gets out everyone will give them the money and they won't
even have to ask. It'll just be the dues you pay. Americans wonder why Mexicans barter their freedom with police, for permits at City Hall or to get
out of trouble at an accident scene. They are raised to accept defeat and to surrender to the corruption and accept they will never have control of
their lives. Who is allowing this? Everyone. Even us for being here. The Spanish brought their convoluted form of Oligarchy with them- and it all
went downhill from there to where we are today.
There is no way out, it is too late. Even the president says there is "truth" and a "Legal truth". What about Hank Rohn having the actual gun that
murdered a man? the Legal Truth. No Mr. president there is just one truth- it's your legal system that is the lie and you admit it. The four men
who did the Monterrey casino bombing where 60 were killed last month were released today because the legal system couldn't charge them. This was
after they killed the entire family of the Monterrey Policeman who identified them. When the legal system is this much a mismatch for the level of
crime taking place- crime wins- and that's if all the players were honest. Very sad and now it is here.
[Edited on 9-17-2011 by Woooosh] |
Wooosh's paragraph below especially the sentence about how Mexicans are raised to accept defeat is probably one of the most arrogant, bigoted, and
clueless statement I have ever read in the main area of the "Nomad" forum!
But it's vintage Wooosh to make outrageous statements like this, and by making such foolish allegations Woooosh is implying he isn't like these weak
Mexicans who so willingly accept defeat, but that Wooosh is strong and a fighter, and Mexicans should be like Woooosh. ( I hope some of you are
familiar with my "poser" threads?)
Anyway as a Mexican, or rather as an American with ancestral roots to to Mexico. I'm deeply offended by Woooosh's ugly American clueless remark!
Woooosh wrote:They are raised to accept defeat and to surrender to the corruption and accept they will never have control of their lives. Who
is allowing this? Everyone. Even us for being here. The Spanish brought their convoluted form of Oligarchy with them- and it all went downhill from
there to where we are today.
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woody with a view
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There is no way out, it is too late. Even the president says there is "truth" and a "Legal truth". What about Hank Rohn having the actual gun that
murdered a man? the Legal Truth. No Mr. president there is just one truth- it's your legal system that is the lie and you admit it. The four men who
did the Monterrey casino bombing where 60 were killed last month were released today because the legal system couldn't charge them. This was after
they killed the entire family of the Monterrey Policeman who identified them. When the legal system is this much a mismatch for the level of crime
taking place- crime wins- and that's if all the players were honest. Very sad and now it is here.
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but this makes up for it. the truth hurts sometimes.
you are trying to define the meaning of the word, "is" and there is no good answer. just ask the American president known as Slick Willie........
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The younger Mexican children accept the corruption and learn to pay a mordida the better they will do in their society when they grow up to be
corrupt officials. |
Ohhhlordy..........well, they won't all be in the government...I hope.
What are they squeezing from these kids? Their lunch money? |
I doubt they get much money- it's the power trip they are after. They know once the word gets out everyone will give them the money and they won't
even have to ask. It'll just be the dues you pay. Americans wonder why Mexicans barter their freedom with police, for permits at City Hall or to get
out of trouble at an accident scene. They are raised to accept defeat and to surrender to the corruption and accept they will never have control of
their lives. Who is allowing this? Everyone. Even us for being here. The Spanish brought their convoluted form of Oligarchy with them- and it all
went downhill from there to where we are today.
There is no way out, it is too late. Even the president says there is "truth" and a "Legal truth". What about Hank Rohn having the actual gun that
murdered a man? the Legal Truth. No Mr. president there is just one truth- it's your legal system that is the lie and you admit it. The four men
who did the Monterrey casino bombing where 60 were killed last month were released today because the legal system couldn't charge them. This was
after they killed the entire family of the Monterrey Policeman who identified them. When the legal system is this much a mismatch for the level of
crime taking place- crime wins- and that's if all the players were honest. Very sad and now it is here.
[Edited on 9-17-2011 by Woooosh] |
Wooosh's paragraph below especially the sentence about how Mexicans are raised to accept defeat is probably one of the most arrogant, bigoted, and
clueless statement I have ever read in the main area of the "Nomad" forum!
But it's vintage Wooosh to make outrageous statements like this, and by making such foolish allegations Woooosh is implying he isn't like these weak
Mexicans who so willingly accept defeat, but that Wooosh is strong and a fighter, and Mexicans should be like Woooosh. ( I hope some of you are
familiar with my "poser" threads?)
Anyway as a Mexican, or rather as an American with ancestral roots to to Mexico. I'm deeply offended by Woooosh's ugly American clueless remark!
Woooosh wrote:They are raised to accept defeat and to surrender to the corruption and accept they will never have control of their lives. Who
is allowing this? Everyone. Even us for being here. The Spanish brought their convoluted form of Oligarchy with them- and it all went downhill from
there to where we are today. |
that's because there is no truth in Mexico- it is a sliding scale of gray. Do be offended by what is happening, but shooting the messenger is
ignorant. This is YOUR country, Fix it or just stfu. And my Mexican family agrees 110% with me, by the way.
And yes, it is true- this Connecticut Yankee is nothing like a Mexican. Different everything. I have nothing to apologize for. I enjoy the
contrasts with my family and they couldn't be more proud that I am a Yankee who fights for his Mexican family and for the people of Mexico. The proof
is in my actions.
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
This is YOUR country, |
I don' theeenk so.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
This is YOUR country, |
I don' theeenk so. |
come on Dennis, who would lie about being a Mexican or American for that matter?
OK I re-read that. His roots are in Mexico. In a country 201 years old- those roots don't go too deep.
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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JoeJustJoe
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Wooosh wrote: that's because there is no truth in Mexico- it is a sliding scale of gray. Do be offended by what is happening, but shooting the
messenger is ignorant. This is YOUR country, Fix it or just stfu. And my Mexican family agrees 110% with me, by the way.
It's not my country, but it's my pure ancestral heritage of Mexican blood, although I may have a little Irish in me. And being a Mexican-American
growing up in a barrio I share many of the same cultural of my Mexicans brothers and sisters in Mexico.
What you're doing Woooosh is stereotyping a whole class of people living in Mexico as having been taught to accept defeat.
Anytime anybody engages in racial stereotyping the are showing themselves to be bigots, and when Mexicans like your family members do. They are
showing themselves to be self-hating bigots. I see this all time even among Mexicans.
You Woooosh or your family don't speak for all Mexicans.
Imagine if I made your type of claim to Americans, and including "all" in that claim. "All Americans are self-centered and believe the world revolves
around them and America." This would be wrong for me to throw all Americans into my stereotype, although it certainly applies to you Woooosh and many
ugly Americans who make these types of statements.
I'm not even going to talk about the political situation in Mexico till we clear up this offensive ugly stereotype you just make.
Woooosh you need to walk in a poor Mexican shoes before you make sure foolish outrageous bigoted statements.
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Woooosh
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take a deep breath Joe. The truth is going to explode you head. The Mexican culture is so passive-aggressive that you can't handle being called out.
And I didn't even have a taco or meet a Mexican until I went away to college- so most everything I learned about Mexicans I did while I was here in
Mexico. I 'm just calling it like I see it and we have very different eyes. ARE YOU EVEN DOWN HERE TO LOOK?
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
take a deep breath Joe. The truth is going to explode you head. The Mexican culture is so passive-aggressive that you can't handle being called out.
And I didn't even have a taco or meet a Mexican until I went away to college- so most everything I learned about Mexicans I did while I was here in
Mexico. I 'm just calling it like I see it and we have very different eyes. ARE YOU EVEN DOWN HERE TO LOOK?
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by Woooosh] |
I just love how you take out that paint brush Woooosh and paint the whole Mexican culture of being so passive-aggressive. Well you're at it, can you
tell me what the American culture is like? Do Americans also fit into your little tidy stereotypes?
How about the Muslim culture Woooosh. Do Muslims fall into that same passive-aggressive culture thing? After all those middle eastern countries have
had brutal dictatorships for years, and most of those Muslim countries did nothing about it until this year, and then there is Iran who is still
suppressed.
See things are a little more complicated that your silly culture stereotypes you pigeonhole a whole ethic culture in Woooosh.
I think I know what your problem is Woooosh. You been around dogs too long, and stereotype a culture of people(Mexicans) like you do certain dog
breeds. I like you Woooosh owned Retrievers, but even among dogs their have their own unique personalities.
Of course you haven't been around Mexicans all your life Woooosh, and now your surrounded by a certain subculture and class of Mexicans and you think
all Mexicans are the same, but that's just not true.
As I said before I use to rent a place in Rosarito Beach, and often you can find me in Tijuana. I was just there last week waiting to get beat up.
 Hopefully in a couple of years I'm going to be semi-retired, and I plan on
returning to someplace in Mexico close to the ocean.
[Edited on 9-18-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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Woooosh
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Just calling it like I see it. I live in central Rosarito, not in an expat community. I can't fix your ignorance of what is happening in Mexico.
You got off point and your panties in a wad. Why not be the street crossing guard at that TJ school tomorrow Joe? Tell they kids they are strong and
powerful and can stick up for themselves. They already know what their future is if the adults of Mexico don't grow a pair. Go try to find a TJ
policeman to help you tomorrow- good luck on that. Not even the police will help these kids. They will close the schools though- just like Acapulco.
This thread was about violence against schools in Acapulco and I said it is here. And it is. If you aren't man enough to return to your beloved
Mexico now to help fix it and save it, what are you made of that is so gd righteous? I'm out for today- one can only suffer a fool for so long...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Just calling it like I see it. I live in central Rosarito, not in an expat community. I can't fix your ignorance of what is happening in Mexico.
You got off point and your panties in a wad. Why not be the street crossing guard at that TJ school tomorrow Joe? Tell they kids they are strong and
powerful and can stick up for themselves. They already know what their future is if the adults of Mexico don't grow a pair. Go try to find a TJ
policeman to help you tomorrow- good luck on that. Not even the police will help these kids. They will close the schools though- just like Acapulco.
This thread was about violence against schools in Acapulco and I said it is here. And it is. If you aren't man enough to return to your beloved
Mexico now to help fix it and save it, what are you made of that is so gd righteous? I'm out for today- one can only suffer a fool for so long...
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Yeah I heard the story Woooosh. You don't live like other "Nomad" members in gringo expat enclaves, but that you Woooosh live among the native
Mexicans, and know how Mexicans really are.
You Woooosh are the Jane Goodall among Mexicans like Goodall was among apes.
Save that BS for other 'Nomad" members as they may believe your BS, but if you ask me your clueless about Mexicans and Mexican culture, and that's why
you resort to racial stereotyping and repeating culture bigotry you learned from Mexican hate sites.
But since you're so brave Woooosh. Why don't you hold meetings in your local Mexican community and tell the locals how they should stand up to the
Mexican drug cartels, and government corruption. I'm sure they will listen to you. What do you call yourself Woooosh? The tough "Yankee" or something
like that? 
See you around Woooosh I made my point.
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wessongroup
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Woooosh, ya should know by now.. Dr. JOe, doesn't really like "real personal experiences"... they tend to throw the curve off a bit....
Keep your head down..
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jbcoug
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| Quote: | | See you around Woooosh I made my point. |
Actually Joe, you didn't.
John
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