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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 06:02 PM


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Para ellos, la vida vale madre.


Did you notice their ages?

21 and 23

Almost the identical age range of our attackers. I watched a special on gang violence the other night that stated that gang membership is actually up in the US. What frightens police the most is the newest gangbangers aged 18-22. They are cold, ruthless and brutal.

Maybe there is something to this 2012 thing afterall...

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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 06:48 PM


The Disenfranchised Masses of the young, uneducated, stupid and lazy. It's the same way my neighbor was killed last year. Tied up, robbed and strangled with the cord from the blinds (for 500 pesos no less). The couple accused the victim of making sexual advances so it can be classified as a "crime of passion". The robbery and vehicle theft was incidental.

I remember telling my Dad that his "Greatest" generation got the best of the world. They were raised well and educated, fought and won WWII in two years and then returned home to the "leave it to beaver" years with opportunity and prosperity. Humble people working humble jobs living in humble houses (for the most-part). Things went downhill after that...

December 21, 2012 ? (Keep an eye on the middle east)




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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 07:03 PM


Their eyes look dead - not human



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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 07:04 PM


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The Disenfranchised Masses of the young, uneducated, stupid and lazy. It's the same way my neighbor was killed last year. Tied up, robbed and strangled with the cord from the blinds (for 500 pesos no less). The couple accused the victim of making sexual advances so it can be classified as a "crime of passion". The robbery and vehicle theft was incidental.

I remember telling my Dad that his "Greatest" generation got the best of the world. They were raised well and educated, fought and won WWII in two years and then returned home to the "leave it to beaver" years with opportunity and prosperity. Humble people working humble jobs living in humble houses (for the most-part). Things went downhill after that...

December 21, 2012 ? (Keep an eye on the middle east)


Right on...
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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 07:48 PM


So sad.
He sounds like a great man. Im sure he will be sorely missed. Rest in peace.
Unfortunately world violence and apathy is up. Be prepared to wager at all costs the game we all chose to participate in. Murder, robbery, abuse and chaos exist everywhere.I can say this for a fact because I work in a beautiful community that experiences calls of this nature. I can only suggest we be creative in our vigilance and protection. Big dogs give big warning, where you go from there in your families personal protection is your own business. I can tell you that I will risk prison and potential consequences while standing over a perpetrators body before I exhaust what is available to me.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 07:52 PM


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Their eyes look dead - not human


I would imagine they went through some intense interogation.
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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 08:13 PM


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[*] posted on 10-24-2011 at 11:43 PM


Deportes, where do you live now? Pick up a paper in any city in the country, and there is bad stuff all over-you insinuate some. You have not lived in MX since the '80's? I may be misunderstanding.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 08:27 AM


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Deportes, where do you live now? Pick up a paper in any city in the country, and there is bad stuff all over-you insinuate some. You have not lived in MX since the '80's? I may be misunderstanding.

In some countries they actually apprehend, prosecute and incarcerate criminals. Pick one of those to retire in.




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 01:14 PM


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The Disenfranchised Masses of the young, uneducated, stupid and lazy. It's the same way my neighbor was killed last year. Tied up, robbed and strangled with the cord from the blinds (for 500 pesos no less). The couple accused the victim of making sexual advances so it can be classified as a "crime of passion". The robbery and vehicle theft was incidental.

I remember telling my Dad that his "Greatest" generation got the best of the world. They were raised well and educated, fought and won WWII in two years and then returned home to the "leave it to beaver" years with opportunity and prosperity. Humble people working humble jobs living in humble houses (for the most-part). Things went downhill after that...

December 21, 2012 ? (Keep an eye on the middle east)


The Disenfranchised Masses of the young, uneducated, stupid and lazy.

This statement sounds pretty racist to me, although you try to hide the racism behind he killing of the old hippie free spirit Frey.

Fray sounds like a great liberal, and I suspect the Mexicans killers planed to kill him and rob him. But even the alleged Mexican killers get their day in court too. And it's not far-fetched to believe he may have tried to touch the Mexican young female suspect inappropriately after drinking with the two. You would be surprised how some Americans act in Mexico, and do things they would never do in the US. But even if Fray allegedly tried to touch the girl. That's still no reason to kill and rob him.

But forget about Fray and the two Mexican suspects for awhile.

What's this calling the Masses( Mexicans) young, uneducated, stupid and lazy?

Talk like this has no place on "Baja Nomads, and is really the kind of stuff I hear over at "stormfront" the White Nationalists forum or the other place you hang out at.

Be specific Wooosh and don't bash a whole group of people over the behavior of a few or the one.

The fact is many of these masses were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth like some people and their future isn't all that bright, but you give them a job and most of them will work hard.

If you want to blame somebody. Blame poverty.



[Edited on 10-25-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 02:03 PM


The poverty of Mexico is cultural, not racial. I believe this problem is worldwide, not just Mexican or American. The disenfranchised masses are the youth of the world.

Only you would turn this into race-baiting. Back to OT you vermin. ;)

[Edited on 10-25-2011 by Woooosh]




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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 02:22 PM


http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=22400

Never mind about the small stuff. They just found this murder victim in Ensenada skinned. Not just dead, but skinned. That doesn't happen everywhere in the world does it? The really really bad guys are here now. We hoped it would not get here from the mainland, but here we go again. They haven't even identified the remains of the "pozolero" victims from the last narco-wave that went through Baja a few years back.

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[*] posted on 10-25-2011 at 05:23 PM


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Deportes, where do you live now? Pick up a paper in any city in the country, and there is bad stuff all over-you insinuate some. You have not lived in MX since the '80's? I may be misunderstanding.

In some countries they actually apprehend, prosecute and incarcerate criminals. Pick one of those to retire in.


Exactly, what scares me the most of Mexico is that the Policia in some cases are the perpetrators! In other countries you can count on the police to do their job well.

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lol.gif posted on 10-26-2011 at 03:36 PM
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Never mind about the small stuff. They just found this murder victim in Ensenada skinned. Not just dead, but skinned. That doesn't happen everywhere in the world does it?



In "La Encantada" no less.

Who thinks up these names? :rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 03:40 PM


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Para ellos, la vida vale madre.


Are you fulano the rat??




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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 03:41 PM


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In "La Encantada" no less.

Who thinks up these names? :rolleyes:


Walt Disney invented Mexico.
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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 05:33 PM


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http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=22400

Never mind about the small stuff. They just found this murder victim in Ensenada skinned. Not just dead, but skinned. [Edited on 10-25-2011 by Woooosh]

Not skinned as would be an animal but his face was mutilated to make identification difficult. Terrible but not as bad as "SKINNED".




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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 05:59 PM


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Not skinned as would be an animal but his face was mutilated to make identification difficult. Terrible but not as bad as "SKINNED".


"Hallan cuerpo mutilado y desollado en la Encantada"
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"Desollado" translates to "Skinned."
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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 08:00 PM


"Walt Disney invented Mexico."

You know, Dennis, I had a feeling about this, years ago........




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[*] posted on 10-26-2011 at 08:04 PM


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"Walt Disney invented Mexico."

You know, Dennis, I had a feeling about this, years ago........


Only the young at heart can see and feel the connection. :bounce:
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