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DENNIS
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The national pen company. |
It's mentioned here:
http://sanfelipe.com.mx/about-san-felipe/history/
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desertcpl
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Slanderous?? well maybe, but in all fairness, the San Felipe area has gotten a
terrible rep from so called developers, a lot of people have been taken to the cleaners,
so lets say that this development is legit, they will have to jump over a lot of bodies first, then will have to answer some really direct questions
and not beat around the bush with the answers
they either have their act together or they don't, No gray areas
well unless they are selling to people that just don't know and just walk in with blinders on,, we have all seen this happen time and time again
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
Slanderous?? well maybe, but in all fairness, the San Felipe area has gotten a
terrible rep from so called developers, a lot of people have been taken to the cleaners,
so lets say that this development is legit, they will have to jump over a lot of bodies first, then will have to answer some really direct questions
and not beat around the bush with the answers
they either have their act together or they don't, No gray areas
well unless they are selling to people that just don't know and just walk in with blinders on,, we have all seen this happen time and time again
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Yes, I agree. San Felipe has had more than its share of shady development efforts.
Just our observation; over the years it seems that many of the people who have been taken in several places in Baja were informed of several pitfalls,
but just refused to believe them or decided to take the risk anyway. Some we have observed have that arrogant American attitude that screams, "It
can't happen to me, by golly. " And some have chosen to ignore the warnings out of a bit of greed--- just a great deal. It is like buying ejido
land, maybe it will work out and maybe it won't.
That is not to say that some people are just innocent victims of very good sales people. I think the one that gets me the most is the Donald Trump
thing --- it is easy to see how his name gave legitimacy to the project in the mind of many.
And maybe these people are one of the many developments who have scared San Felipe, and maybe not.
[Edited on 4-20-2013 by DianaT]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
unless they are selling to people that just don't know and just walk in with blinders on |
That's where the "easy financing" comes in.
With the borrowing rates as sky high in Mexico as they are, I wonder what interest rates will be offered here?
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Bob H
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It seems that Bajabeachfront has disappeared after just 10 posts (registered 4-19-2013). A true newbie blunder if you ask me.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
unless they are selling to people that just don't know and just walk in with blinders on |
That's where the "easy financing" comes in.
With the borrowing rates as sky high in Mexico as they are, I wonder what interest rates will be offered here? |
I think Omar is saying that it might be owner financing, so It would be in their best interest to have low interest rates, as they are only financing
profit anyway,
on the other hand, a Red Herring to me is taking the high road with questions here and he even called you out personally over this, he should just lay
all the facts out and be able to answer any and all questions
I still didn't get a good reply from him on the Titles, as I understand Titles come in different forms, some are absolute and others are a little
vague
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
on the other hand, a Red Herring to me is taking the high road with questions here and he even called you out personally over this, he should just lay
all the facts out and be able to answer any and all questions
I still didn't get a good reply from him on the Titles, as I understand Titles come in different forms, some are absolute and others are a little
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Actualmente, we don't even know if Omar works for the company. That's the first thing he may want to verify.
His first post was a cut 'n paste from the website.
Another thing of mild interest......Omar has shown signs that he isn't new here. After only one post, he was into U2Us and in a PM to me he refered to
the "OT," off topic.
He does, however, speak and write well, but Omar needs to be qualified.
Then, and not a second sooner, we can get on with buying land and realizing our dreams.
Where is that place? Do they even have air out there? 
Jes kiddin', Omar.
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desertcpl
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Will the real OMAR please stand up
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DENNIS
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ever seen omar and fulano together at a party? im just sayin......AND him and fez immediately hit it off! im just sayin...... |
Could be. Yep.......could very well be. 
He'll like the attention you gave him anyway. He and his minions are presently rolling in a slime ball over this thread anyway.
Useless pile of worms.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajabeachfront
| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
true, but the Ejido has to sell it first,, a lot of developments have sold property in Ejidos, that the Ejidos never sold in the first place, then
years later the Ejido comes in and kicks every one off, as they never had clear title from the Ejido |
If by developments you mean actual planned homesite developments, then I am 100% certain that this has NEVER happened. It would be an unbelievably
foolish decision, financially and legally, to attempt to convey INTERNATIONAL properties to 3rd parties where any amount of cloudiness of title may
exist. Believe me, we've checked and double checked.
HOWEVER....I know for a fact that foreigners who have opted to take the route of LEASING property can encounter the "adios gringo!" situation the
moment the terms of their lease are up...even if the lease was 50 years and they put their sweat and blood into developing the property. Remember,
Mexico's laws are seldom ever subject to intensive interpretation and contextual refitting as in the states. The law is what it says and a lease is a
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It's simple, you're an opportunist, and that is fine, and please feel free to post on Bajanomads web site. But it is kind of like trying to sell
books and magazines in a gated community with a No Trespassing sign posted at the entry.
Have a grand time
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
ever seen omar and fulano together at a party? im just sayin......AND him and fez immediately hit it off! im just sayin...... |
Could be. Yep.......could very well be.
He'll like the attention you gave him anyway. He and his minions are presently rolling in a slime ball over this thread anyway.
Useless pile of worms. |
RATZ! I didnt remove it quickly enough, I wasnt sure about using the f-word here
and im already on report by the old writer guy!
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
It seems that Bajabeachfront has disappeared after just 10 posts (registered 4-19-2013). A true newbie blunder if you ask me.
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So I am to assume he couldn't stand the heat and got out of the kitchen
WOW that didn't take long,,, NEXT
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
Will the real OMAR please stand up |
Dang he looks just like some Baja property owners and some nomads! 
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
Will the real OMAR please stand up |
Dang he looks just like some Baja property owners and some nomads!
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: I am not going to touch that
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brewer
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Just a big question...Where is their source of fresh water? Does a de-sal plant come with the development? Anyone know of where the water comes
from?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Hey Omar....before the San Felipians on this board drop in to eat you alive, tell us about ownership. Fideicomiso, Pink Slip, Hand Shake....what?
When you're done with that, explain the title insurance. It's my understanding there is no such legitimate thing.
Later...we can talk about the "Pristine Water"....along with a few other things.
By the way....do you have anything to do with an Ejido? |
One can only wonder if there is any relationship to " ramuma53 " ??
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
Just a big question...Where is their source of fresh water? Does a de-sal plant come with the development? Anyone know of where the water comes
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I happen to know one of the Residents there, nice people, and they're very happy with the project and their new "green" home there.
They had a very large underground water storage tank installed and so far have been hiring large water trucks to come from San Felipe and fill them
up. They are also working on setting up a water tank on a trailer and get water from "The Well" (Arroyo Matomi) 5 miles south of their Community.
Same well all of Puertecitos and surrounding area gets they're water from.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Howard
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Where does the water come from?
Read God and Mr. Gomez by Jack Smith, he will tell you.
One of my personal favorite books.
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
Just a big question...Where is their source of fresh water? Does a de-sal plant come with the development? Anyone know of where the water comes
from? |
I happen to know one of the Residents there, nice people, and they're very happy with the project and their new "green" home there.
They had a very large underground water storage tank installed and so far have been hiring large water trucks to come from San Felipe and fill them
up. They are also working on setting up a water tank on a trailer and get water from "The Well" (Arroyo Matomi) 5 miles south of their Community.
Same well all of Puertecitos and surrounding area gets they're water from. |
you are spoiling everyone's fun. Glad to see someone posted first hand info!
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
Slanderous?? well maybe, but in all fairness, the San Felipe area has gotten a
terrible rep from so called developers, a lot of people have been taken to the cleaners,
so lets say that this development is legit, they will have to jump over a lot of bodies first, then will have to answer some really direct questions
and not beat around the bush with the answers
they either have their act together or they don't, No gray areas
well unless they are selling to people that just don't know and just walk in with blinders on,, we have all seen this happen time and time again
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Yes, I agree. San Felipe has had more than its share of shady development efforts.
Just our observation; over the years it seems that many of the people who have been taken in several places in Baja were informed of several pitfalls,
but just refused to believe them or decided to take the risk anyway. Some we have observed have that arrogant American attitude that screams, "It
can't happen to me, by golly. " And some have chosen to ignore the warnings out of a bit of greed--- just a great deal. It is like buying ejido
land, maybe it will work out and maybe it won't.
That is not to say that some people are just innocent victims of very good sales people. I think the one that gets me the most is the Donald Trump
thing --- it is easy to see how his name gave legitimacy to the project in the mind of many.
And maybe these people are one of the many developments who have scared San Felipe, and maybe not.
[Edited on 4-20-2013 by DianaT] |
The Donald Trump development just south of TJ is another prime example.
Bob Durrell
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