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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I am personally hoping that the construction on this river project is more professional than the bridge projects between Insurgentes and Constitucion.
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Living in Loreto and traveling to Constitucion monthly, I don't believe they ever intended bridges for both sides of the highway. Expensive and not
necessary. For the few times a year the area floods, the diversion of the traffic to the north going side is simple by making it one lane in each
direction. like most of Baja.
Saved lots of funds and serves the area beautifully.
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
The new bridge in Mulege under the bridge came out nice. Ok, maybe that is a small project. LOL
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I am personally hoping that the construction on this river project is more professional than the bridge projects between Insurgentes and Constitucion.
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There is nothing wrong with the newer bridge design. The design allows for the approaches to wash out thus preventing damage to the main span. the
approaches are easy to replace.
No design would hold the pressure from the flood water.
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willyAirstream
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The bridge under the bridge is a unique design. The main span, the lid, is held by gravity and meant to self destruct when a flood occurs and not
damage the massive pilings at each end. The pilings are over 2o ft deep, 3-4ft. in dia and made with 1 inch rebar.
off topic, but keeping the house ad at the top 
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by divemulege
Every person that has inquired is told about flooding during the conversation. There is no way of hiding the fact when there still is a lot of houses
that are damaged on the river. With the ability to insure through GNP for $301 a year for $110k of coverage, you cannot lose. I just cleaned out my
new house for $7500 pesos. I have another $8000 pesos of damage to pay and it is completely fixed. If I had insurance I would of actually made a lot
more than that. To live in a nice area you have risks. California has quakes, midwest has tornadoes and the gulf and east coast have major
hurricanes. To be inconvenienced for a couple of weeks to live near the ocean for $42k is a no brainer! What would you pay in the states for a house
like this. MG is just a bitter person and if you look at a lot of his post you will see his negativity. Grow some balls and come tell me in person
MG!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Motoged,
You just can't help being confrontational. |
V,
Yes I can....and when someone insults me, I don't have to stand by and not reply.
This whole issue seems to have arisen from a comment I made about the ongoing risk of the river flooding in Mulege.
I do not always stoop down to pick up a thrown gauntlet...but I do at times.
I try to contribute to BN forums with a variety of posts....this one is one of the sour ones.
I will drop this issue and leave this thread alone.... |
I think that your opinion and questions about flooding is appropriate when someone is trying to sell property....but Ged, full disclosure in Mexico
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The initial post on this thread says that the flooding issue has been solved for the foreseeable future. That is a big stretch, as no one can predict
whether the "solution" is viable, or what Mother Nature might serve up. But I especially take issue with the insurance part of divemulege's post
above. Are you saying that it is okay to build in a floodplain because you can't lose, as the insurance might actually give you a windfall if you are
wiped out? How irresponsible can you be? Have you not considered the environmental impact of your personal debris being washed into the sea? Do you
have no moral compass?
To raise the issue of flood potential on this property is entirely appropriate, especially since the seller is misrepresenting the potential. This
is a discussion forum, and if you advertise property it is valid for readers to post what they feel about the property being advertised, both positive
and negative. I'm pretty sure that DM would not have objected if Motoged had said "beautiful home-- jump on this deal while you can!"
Motoged has been posting here for several years, and his posts are thoughtful, well stated, good natured, and generally spot on.
Divemulege just signed on last October, and most of his posts are self-promoting, and when he is questioned or called out he becomes defensive and
mean-spirited. Personally I think you could change your identity to Takeadivemulege-- it would more clearly identify who you are.
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mul rio
I don't Know a nothing about buy/renting in Baja!!!!!!...What I do Know since 1977 I have seen SOO many fine houses/trailers/places go down stream
there....,.And I do Carry some weight in BCS ,,,so that said,,,any one that would like to buy in that area should really check/research/spend a winter
or twobefore buying there.....SOO sorry Div M/...this is my home for overt 30 yrs and some of us take care of BIZ....The RIO has been a issue for
ever.....funny,,,,,a FEW YEARS,,GRINGOS WERE SCARDED OF THE PRISION.....jUNGLE Jims I hope is not your second home ???>
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Udo
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My two centavos:
Last summer I tried to buy insurance for my house in BA. One insurance company declined coverage in BA and the other gave me a quote for over $2,400
US per year, all because BA was considered to be in the Mulege flood zone, even though we were less than 100 KM south of Guerrero Negro.
After some arguing, I was told that all of Baja Sur was either in the "Mulege flood zone," or in the "hydro meteorological phenomena" zone.
So currently my house sits uninsured.
Udo
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Udo- interesting on the cost. Prior to deciding that we wanted to live on the beach vs the river we looked at both opportunities. I was surprised that
the owners living on the river were getting insured- one I looked at had actually been destroyed twice and replaced by insurance both times and yet
was able to get the home insured for the 3rd time. I don't recall what he was paying for insurance. In my opinion, living on the river without
insurance is a real gamble- living without insurance where you are is not nearly as risky.
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I have been visiting Mulege since 1989 and have always thought that the houses along the river were where I would want to live if I found myself
choosing Mulege. Mulege has its own unique charm that many of us resonate with.
Having said that, I have come to realize that the river is unforgiving when the tropical storms dump an insane amount of rain in a short period of
time west of the town.
Insurance can take many forms....and perhaps the promise of dams, stream diversion, and better water management upstream can be seen as a form of
insurance.....but like the other forms.....is a gamble as has been said.
I fully appreciate the lure of a river house. Not only is the location exotic, some of the houses are beauties. However, as many have acknowledged by
moving away from the river (Nomads have done so), they worry less about the risk of loss of property and , in some cases, their life (as the river
took a resident's life several years ago).
Life is a gamble full of risks....we play the game and "takes our chances". Managing risks is also part of the game.
I hope the dam(n) thing works out. 
Udo, find out what company is insuring the river houses  , See what they say
about your area again....and what do other Asuncionites do? It will be astounding if they consider most of southern Baja uninsurable due to
"meteorlogical" influences.
That would rock a few boats 
Don't believe everything you think....
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MulegeAL
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
So currently my house sits uninsured. |
Udo,
Have you tried Lewis and Lewis? If not, search for that. $2.4K is way out of line.
Any takillya left from the TJ tequila event last fall?
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
I have been visiting Mulege since 1989 and have always thought that the houses along the river were where I would want to live if I found myself
choosing Mulege. Mulege has its own unique charm that many of us resonate with.
Having said that, I have come to realize that the river is unforgiving when the tropical storms dump an insane amount of rain in a short period of
time west of the town.
Insurance can take many forms....and perhaps the promise of dams, stream diversion, and better water management upstream can be seen as a form of
insurance.....but like the other forms.....is a gamble as has been said.
I fully appreciate the lure of a river house. Not only is the location exotic, some of the houses are beauties. However, as many have acknowledged by
moving away from the river (Nomads have done so), they worry less about the risk of loss of property and , in some cases, their life (as the river
took a resident's life several years ago).
Life is a gamble full of risks....we play the game and "takes our chances". Managing risks is also part of the game.
I hope the dam(n) thing works out.
Udo, find out what company is insuring the river houses , See what they say
about your area again....and what do other Asuncionites do? It will be astounding if they consider most of southern Baja uninsurable due to
"meteorlogical" influences.
That would rock a few boats |
This.
And as far as MulegeAl, Lewis & Lewis is a NOB broker. Seems to me that if anyone is serious, they out to contact a broker SOB.
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Udo we use Mario Ortez in La Paz for our house in Buena Vista( approx 12 years) might be worth a call, 01-612-123-4242 Cliffh
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Udo
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I'll give it another shot, motoged. But what I found out is that no one in BA has house insurance! (AT t least from the people I spoke with).
My house is built with block, so no hurricane is going to touch it, but break-ins are not out of the question, regardless how safe a neighborhood is.
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Udo, find out what company is insuring the river houses , See what they say
about your area again....and what do other Asuncionites do? It will be astounding if they consider most of southern Baja uninsurable due to
"meteorlogical" influences.
That would rock a few boats |
Udo
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Udo
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Thanks for the lead, Cliff.
I'll give them a call in the morning!
| Quote: | Originally posted by cliffh
Udo we use Mario Ortez in La Paz for our house in Buena Vista( approx 12 years) might be worth a call, 01-612-123-4242 Cliffh
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