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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 06:38 AM


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some in that area:

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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 07:33 AM


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Just some more history: The Summit and the Jamau wash were explored and completed out to La Venatna by myself and 4 other members of the Los Ancianos Motor Cycle Club (Founded in 1960 and still active in Baja) of San Diego late 1963 and 1964.

We used information discussed earlier in this post to find the route under the leadership of our President and head explorer Bill Steider. It was very difficult. Remnants of the pole line were still visible at that time and the wash was very difficult to ride even headed down the wash as I remember it, and we literally had to work together to lift these very heavy bikes (Triumphs, Matchless and AJS) over many boulders and other obsatcles, we were in the ash for over 5 hours and it was hot. The exit out of the wash was very technical and it took several attempts by each rider.

The planned one day trip starting out on the El Compadre Road out side of Tecate to San Felipe turned into two days with a dry overnight campout without camping gear extra food and water. Two of the bikes ran out of fuel and needed to be pushed (foot into the rear shock) into La Ventana where we found gas and Balogna sandwiches. The route was then used later for the famous and very difficult Los Ancianos Tecate 500 Enduro in 1971and 1972 from Tecate to San Felipe and back via the summit and the Jamau wash and Arroyo Grande to Diablo Dry Lake and onto San Felipe .Later, SCORE and others used parts of the route for their events. That what I know.



Fantastic history! Thank you for sharing. If you have any photos of the old road, telephone poles, etc. Please share... If you can't post please email to me: info (at) vivabaja.com

Was any wire still on the poles?




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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 08:16 AM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
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some in that area:

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Paul, I did not clean up the file - you'll figure it out yourself




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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 08:38 AM


Not a problem. I can get what I need after I do a little cleanup of the GE file.
Then when I make the USR file I get rid of the artifacts that I missed on the GE file. Normal process for GE to USR conversion for the stuff I do.

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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 10:05 AM


what is USR?



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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
what is USR?

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USR is the Lowrance file suffix.
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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 05:36 PM


David,

you may want to reach out to TDS (since they are local for you) - I believe they ran the first 4x4 trips over the PLR. A 1984 article in a German magazine about a TDS trip actually made me explore PLR in '86




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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 06:05 PM


Our buddy Roy the Squarecircle was on that run. I was on the phone for 2.5 hours the other day discussing it with him.



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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 06:44 PM


Bo Neece and Roger Mullins went on a PLR in 2006. Neece is a current TDS member and Mullins a former member, and owner of JustRuns.com



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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 06:51 PM


Rick Russell traveled from Ojos Negros into the Laguna Salada region. He video recorded the event, and I believe he also has a map of the region that he created himself. Here is a short preview to his video - now available on DVD.

edit: His Baja and Sonora maps are out of print: http://www.sidekickoffroad.com/catindxF.htm



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[*] posted on 4-30-2015 at 09:55 PM


I have the San Felipe map of his... I will share since it is no longer available... once I find it!

Edit: Found it... it is a 1989 guide to driving from San Felipe to Puertecitos on the beach (and around Shell Island, or El Pelicano as he calls a camp there, on the mud flats).

I will scan it tomorrow.

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[*] posted on 5-1-2015 at 08:23 AM


OK, I put it in its own thread in the historical intersts and literature forum, here: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=78680



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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 08:25 PM


here is a summit picture taken in 1986
used it for a brochure of my (back then) new company
and yes, there is some snow on the ground

before you ask, Alles Klar means: todo bien, all cool, no problem, hakuna matata
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The earth teaches us more about ourselves than all the books in the world, because she resists us.






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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 09:06 PM


Beautiful cover Harald! Is that the Pole Line Road in the distance?



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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 09:42 PM


yes, PLR in the distance



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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 10:59 PM
Found another gem! Howard Gulick 4-11-1960


http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb3892031p


Guatamote cattle camp near "old pole line road"



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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 11:17 PM
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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 11:17 PM
2-22-1959 Caņada Enmedio (Arroyo Jamau)


It keeps getting better! Note the phone pole in the background, pointed out...





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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 11:28 PM
The Summit in 1959






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[*] posted on 5-5-2015 at 11:53 PM
Pole Line Road View in 1959 from Howard Gulick








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