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Martyman
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I'm taking my surf leaders and snelled hooks out of my surf fishing tackle box and putting them in the Baja box.
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by Hook  | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Smart man.
But your message is lost here, there are a lot of nomads that like shopping and like making bottom fishing complicated. |
Goat, you dont know jack smelt about fishing.
And I wouldnt presume to talk you about adjusting the Disraeli Gears on your precious bicycle.
Stick to what you know about. You look foolishly over your head on this.
Why I am pointing this out, I am not sure. You should be left hanging out to dry for most things you post. |
Adjusting bike disreali is pretty simple, even a cave man like you could do it! 
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wessongroup
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Lobsterman
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Goat if you do not have anything constructive to add to catching bait or fishing methods in BOLA please stay out of this thread. You're on the wrong
side of the fence here.
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woody with a view
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Goat's like that. Mostly bleats about wacko fringe perspectives, but hey, WTF would this place be if we all bleated to the same congos?
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Hook
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Oh yeah, bleat me, daddy, eight to the baah!!!
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willardguy
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soaking bait in baja??? isn't that like gillnetting?
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chuckie
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Soaking Olives aint bad...
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bkbend
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| Quote: Originally posted by Santiago | | Quote: Originally posted by 24baja |
In BOLA We use alot of Salas or sumo jigs in Blue and white, yellow and green, yellow and brown fried egg color, and dorado color.
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I've often wondered what the 200' reefs must look like - must be thousands of them in the rocks around 7 mile. I've certainly contributed. |
Sorry, been gone for a few days. 24baja has the BOLA colors covered, I lean heavily on blue/white or blue/chrome and have been mixing in a lot of
red/pink irons for both YT or bottom fish. Santiago, I haven't figured out if the reef is growing higher due to the added iron, or if it's sinking
under the added weight. When the tides are running it's hard to stay out of the rocks, I've pulled all trebles hooks off those lures and gone to
single hooks. I don't know if it helps or if I've gotten better at feeling the bottom but I don't seem to lose as much iron.
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Lobsterman
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Where is the 7 mile reef in BOLA area? Sounds like my kind of fishing. Coordinates or approximate area would be most helpful.
I often fish 400-600' in the Coronado Trench just north of Mexico's Los Coronado's for amazing catches of fish with blackgill rockfish as the prize
catch. I'm still searching for the black cod (sablefish) that use to visit these depths. That's why I cure anchovies as a favored baitfish that also
sticks well on a hook at these depths vs live or uncured. Except for spawning sablefish are normally at 4500' and is why their oil makes them such a
delicacy aka butterfish.
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woody with a view
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Howie, black cod is readily had at the dock in SD. Look up The Fish Addiction on Facebook.
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Lobsterman
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Thanks Woody did not know that this business existed.
http://www.thefishaddiction.com/
I always dreamed of being a commercial fisherman similar to this business since the 50's going out on my uncles shrimp boat in Fort Myers Beach, FL
while living in a tar shack on the beach. As a bronzed toe-headed barefooted boy I did not know I was poor. The salt air, the quiet except for the
"Caaaa-Caaaaaing" of the sea gulls, nature all around you and the thrill and excitement of what's coming up was the utopia I grew up in. My job on his
boat was to pick out the shrimp while scrambling around on my hands-and-knees after he hauled his trawled net and dumped it onto the deck. Heaven.
But before I retired in 2011, the govt changed many of the rules affecting new people getting into the business by reducing licenses, increasing fees
and eliminating fisheries. A lobster license went from a few $/year to about $80,000 to buy one from another person, inshore fishery was closed and
other fishing limitations. So instead in retirement I continue to take temp jobs doing what I use to in a former life. Heading to Santa Monica in a
few hours to work a week at the airport. It helps pay for my fishing addiction (boat maintenance, fuel, slip fees, tackle, BOLA trip, etc.).
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chuckie
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Sounds like a good plan to me...Stay busy, fish a lot...
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Hook
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I am rather surprised to see you guys are still using the older style "candy bar/Salas6x/Tady45" style jigs for fishing deep on the bottom. I can see
using something like an Ironman 2 or 3 on the surface, but down deep?
Isn't anyone fishing lures like turkey sliders/jimmy jigs/knife jigs/butterfly jigs? SO much quicker to the bottom, and with a single or dual assist
hook attached to the top of the lure, it is much easier to keep the lures out of the rocks. As soon as you touch bottom with the bottom of the lure,
give a single crank up and start jigging. Losing them to the rocks is rare, unless the drift or current is vicious. Still, a lesser chance of snagging
than any bottom hook rig.
They come in many weights. I've even begun using heavy ones (400 grams and up) as a deep water rock fish rig for baqueta and what we call "gold
spotted bass" (the Mexicans call them "calicos" over here, but an ex-SoCal fishermen knows a calico when we sees one). They just drop so fast. And,
unbaited, they avoid the small trash fish on the bottom like antenna fish and the micro-sculpins.
We have oceanic whitefish over here, too, at depth. The Mexicans call them "salmon". Go figure.
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chuckie
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I have been using jigs like you describe, with the extra hooks for a long time...Very successful..I buy the ones made by Bomber, about 7 inches
long...Can be had in assortments on Ebay for good prices bought by the dozens....KILLS Yellowtail, and about everything else...
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Hook
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I have a foggy BOLA memory of a "seven mile reef". Is that the same as Guadalupe Reef, or about seven miles from the north end of Smith/Coronado?
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Santiago
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hook | | I have a foggy BOLA memory of a "seven mile reef". Is that the same as Guadalupe Reef, or about seven miles from the north end of Smith/Coronado?
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Hook: Yes.
Howie: someone at camp will give you the waypoints for the general area. 10 years ago I was once given a waypoint of a certain rock on the reef and
told never to share it. When I finally got to the reef, I could not actually get over the waypoint due to all the other friggin' boats in the way.
So much for 'secret spots'.
Just go to the north end of Smith and head towards the tip of the big island for 7 miles; the little white rock that marks the south end of Guadalupe
Bay will be to your west, or left as you go north. You should be over 150-300' of water. If the north winds come up, at least you will be going down
hill.
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Lobsterman
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Thanks All,
My head is spinning with details, my fingers are tired from taking copious notes in my BOLA notebook and my excitement grows. My garage is a mess
with all this stuff that is carefully laid out on top of things that has to fit in Alan's truck.
Hook & Santiago, I now remember the reef you are talking about after digging deep into my memory bank. I tried to find it once back in the 80's
but stopped short for some reason, probably weather.
Week from Saturday I'm heading south with a fishing war chest to help us experience the joys of fishing BOLA that only a few lucky ones have
experienced.
Now I'm off to work in Santa Monica for a week without a computer, plus I only have an old flip phone. Use maps for directions. My co-workers call me
a dinosaur cuz I do not text, twitter or facebook and only turn my cell phone on when I want to talk to someone. Perhaps that's why I love trips like
the BOLA one where you are not distracted by the problems around us NOB and solve all the world's problems at the watering hole.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lobsterman | | My co-workers call me a dinosaur cuz I do not text, twitter or facebook and only turn my cell phone on when I want to talk to someone.
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When you get old, using your mind helps keep senility away. Perhaps you are having trouble keeping up with technology? You should consider doing
some brain work, making an attempt to keep up with the times, and change your diet and increase your exercise - with a little work, you can keep up.
Re Twitter, I see you are a trump fanboy, you should get on Twitter, trump is on Twitter all day dispensing his opinions (and attacks  ) in 140 characters or less.
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wessongroup
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Certainly a different "view" ^^ on fishing and technology ...
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