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bajabuddha
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Don't hurt yourself; it's farther away than it used to be....... 
....or you can play ''Squat-Tag" in the patch.......
[Edited on 9-5-2016 by bajabuddha]
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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chuckie
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Peas pay better, I'm gonna do peas...babble babble..leave the asparagus to Dennis...babble babble
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SFandH
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his plan to pay for the wall:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
[Edited on 9-6-2016 by SFandH]
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JoeJustJoe
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Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  |
It is really tough for me to like gang-bangers, gang members, druggies, proven crooks, etc. regardless of where they come from, or what they look
like. In that sense I am a "bigot" by definition, and that does not bother me one iota!!!
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As for "Mexican's taking over" that somebody referred to----that's an opinion, or a perception, and there is no accounting for one's opinion, no
matter if you don't understand it. It could, or could not, have anything to do what people actually feel about Mexican's, or the fact that some Mex.
immigrants are shouting in the streets that they are "taking back what was taken from them". Now THAT's a provocative statement or display if I ever
heard one, and might make some uneasy. LOL But perhaps some don't understand that, either.
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Barry your posts have went from being funny the way you take Trump at his word when he keeps flip flopping back and forth on the mass deportation
issue that most people know he couldn't actually get done because of many reasons starting with logistical issues, due process issues, and it would
cost too much money.
But the other things you say are down right racist the way you negatively stereotype Mexicans as gang-bangers, gang members, druggies, and proven
crooks!
Barry you sound exactly like Trump, and Barry when was the last time you heard Mexicans on the streets shout, " we're taking back what was taken from
them!"
I personally don't like it that White Nationalist groups mainly in the USA are growing faster than ISIS, but you don't hear me stereotyping all white
Americans as racist Aryan white supremacists.
White nationalist groups ‘growing faster than ISIS’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1721709/white-nationalist-grou...
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. |
It is really tough for me to like gang-bangers, gang members, druggies, proven crooks, etc. regardless of where they come from, or what they look
like. In that sense I am a "bigot" by definition, and that does not bother me one iota!!!
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As for "Mexican's taking over" that somebody referred to----that's an opinion, or a perception, and there is no accounting for one's opinion, no
matter if you don't understand it. It could, or could not, have anything to do what people actually feel about Mexican's, or the fact that some Mex.
immigrants are shouting in the streets that they are "taking back what was taken from them". Now THAT's a provocative statement or display if I ever
heard one, and might make some uneasy. LOL But perhaps some don't understand that, either.
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Barry your posts have went from being funny the way you take Trump at his word when he keeps flip flopping back and forth on the mass deportation
issue that most people know he couldn't actually get done because of many reasons starting with logistical issues, due process issues, and it would
cost too much money.
But the other things you say are down right racist the way you negatively stereotype Mexicans as gang-bangers, gang members, druggies, and proven
crooks!
Barry you sound exactly like Trump, and Barry when was the last time you heard Mexicans on the streets shout, " we're taking back what was taken from
them!"
I personally don't like it that White Nationalist groups mainly in the USA are growing faster than ISIS, but you don't hear me stereotyping all white
Americans as racist Aryan white supremacists.
White nationalist groups ‘growing faster than ISIS’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1721709/white-nationalist-grou...
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The only "stereotypeing" going on is in your mind, JoJo. I was very specific in who I don't like, and Mexican's were not mentioned other than the
flag-wavers of Mexican flags in the USA and the associated anti-American rants. It appears it is YOU that is making the "Mexican" connection, for
reasons that only YOU know for sure.
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DENNIS
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Don't confuse Joe with reality.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Bajahowodd
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Don't confuse DENNIS with being sane anymore.
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Barry A.
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Dennis---------perhaps the sanest person on the NOMADS board!!! (even tho he takes me to task ever so often) (-:
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Dennis---------perhaps the sanest person on the NOMADS board!!! (even tho he takes me to task ever so often) (-: |
Yup the ''drunken masturbation forum'' comment ranks with the sane nomads here. Sanity redefined, that is.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | Never done this before...religion yes, politics no, maybe, ok here goes.
I look at the huge sums of money invested in Mexico by our nation in the (disguise, interest?) attempt to control drugs, immigration, economy, etc.
and note that little difference has been the sum gain...corruption, graft, disgusting abuse seems to have raised the privileged and done little for a
beautiful country to our south.
The 'wall' that exists physically now, seems to be a small percentage of the overall monies sent south over a very long time. Could it be that a
certain percentage of the monies still being sent south by our nation be diverted to 'put in concrete' perhaps one of the only solutions our nation
has control over?
Yes it may not be the best solution, it may not be palatable with our open arms policy we think we have, but nothing except lining the pockets of the
elite in Mexico seems to have made a difference yet. And when look to the preformed, one cast footing and slab tilted up in ditches along the
Palestinian frontier with Israel...It sure seems to have slowed the carnage perpetrated from a threat on one nations populace. Yes just slowed it.
But I think the idea is Mexico 'pays for' the 'wall' by having the wasted billions that they would get from the US diverted to a commitment for
something this nation would control. At least then it would line the pockets of the elite on this side of the border and finance the creation of more
strip malls to serve those in the remote stretches who guard our 'wall'.
In this way Mexico "pays for the wall"
Fire away.
[Edited on 9-5-2016 by paranewbi] |
I don't believe you're looking at the big picture here. You seem to see the US as this great altruistic country that provides millions of dollars in
foreign aid to Mexico, to help fight the "war on drugs" and help the economy and the Mexican people. And you see Mexico, as an ungrateful corrupt
country that squanders millions of dollars in foreign aids that ends up lining the pockets of elite Mexicans.
So your solution seems to be to build the "wall" and build that build with some of the monies that goes to Mexico in foreign aid.
Paranewbi, if I'm understanding you correctly, I would say your plan sounds very naive.
The US like everybody else, doesn't do anything unless it's for their self-interest. Foreign aid, usually comes with strings attached.
Yes, the US government gives Mexico millions in tax dollars and foreign aid, but the catch is that Mexico has to turn around and use those millions to
buy military equipment from US defense corporations, and Mexico isn't spending a few pesos, but instead they are buying black hawk helicopters,
aircraft surveillance equipment, radios, night-vision goggles, and millions of dollars in other equipment.
Paranewbi, do you really think US corporations that own the pockets of US politicians are going to let Trump divert foreign aid to Mexico, to build a
stupid wall, and make Mexico pay for the wall that way?
If you ever watch the news ever so often US politicians will get up on their high horse, and demand Mexico do something about their human rights
record, or they threaten to withhold foreign aid.
The Mexican officials just shake their heads and laugh at the US politicians knowing full well, they are just giving lip service, and would never
actually cut off the gravy train that goes back to the deep pockets of US corporations.
In the meantime both Mexico and the USA are losing the war on drugs, but at the same time, many people are getting rich of that drug war, and it's
not just the Mexican cartel members.
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Mexico prepping to buy more Black Hawks: settling in for a lengthy fight in drug war?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/Latin-America-Monito...
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DENNIS
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[rquote]=1047630&tid=83915&author=JoeJustJoe
Mexico-prepping-to-buy-more-Black-Hawks-settling-in-for-a-lengthy-fight-in-drug-war
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More a lengthy war on government control of their country. It's the "Choppers against revolution strategy."
[Edited on 9-7-2016 by DENNIS]
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Dennis---------perhaps the sanest person on the NOMADS board!!! (even tho he takes me to task ever so often) (-: |
Why, thank you, Barry. Always a pleasure. My foxhole is your foxhole, and don't be discouraged by the confusion shown by our common sense
challenged Nomad brothers and sisters. They are sheep in need of a shepherd....or a meat case. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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