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DENNIS
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Quote: Originally posted by Udo  | Do the people who keep arguing about religion, Mexico's politics, USA politics, Trump, or the wall...
Do they REALLY think they are going to change someone's mind?
All they are doing if defending their beliefs, whether we like it or not. For that reason if I smell post regarding one of the above topics, I either
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Strange thing about human nature. Most people just like to be heard and acknowledged for their opinion. Makes us feel less insignificant.
Nobody is trying to convert anyone.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | Joe-
Why am I "calling you out" by asking about the adjective you used?
I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, only to question why such an adjective would be used if it wasn't needed for the conversation. And, it does have
derogatory inferences.
My contention again is why conversations need to go to the gutter?
Bashing Mexico? Sharia law? I don't bash Mexico. I like Mexico. I like Baja. Been going there for 35 years.
For a position? Sharia Law has no place in the USA legal system.
I am pretty founded in my thoughts on immigration. My Mother came here in 1924 from Norway. So yes I have a position on the subject but I try not to
let that gravitate down to the gutter in conversations about it.
Still waiting for someone to take me up on my above proposal.
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Umm Cliffy, I detect that you're from red state, joined the tea-party, or have become a Trumpster, because of your opinion of Sharia law.
The only ones who are alarmed about Sharia law, and actually pass laws against Sharia law, are the red slave state of North Carolina, Alabama,
Arizona, Kansas, Louisiana, South Dakota and Tennessee.
In the liberal blue states, we roll our eyes when right-wingers start talking about Sharia laws in the US, as if it's something to really worry about.
You need to come clean Cliffy, conservative leaning, or liberal leaning, to get a better reference where you are coming from, although you are
leaving clues all over the place. ( please no pretend fence sitters, pick a side)
Yes topics like this has to end up in the gutter, because it provokes strong emotions on both sides. I have yet to see one site, with both liberals
and conservatives, not end up in the gutter.
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Jihad Joe hates the USA!
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so what have we learned, there's still 23 miles of dirt between coco's and chapala?
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Wake up, America......you too, Cliffy. It is the driving force behind Islam.
Study...ask....wonder....and when you find yourself on the short end of the stick, don't bother asking why. Just look in the mirror.
There are Muslim communities in the USA today that profess Sharia overrides US civil law .
Pay attention. Study the Crusades. Wake the eff up.
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DENNIS
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Here..............let Bill Warner try to explain it to you.
https://www.politicalislam.com/
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The CRUSADES ?
Is there a coming new Crusade ?
Will Crusader Rabbit be returning ?
I always enjoyed that.
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DENNIS
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Maybe...........
Crusader Rabbit - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_Rabbit
[Edited on 2-5-2017 by DENNIS]
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Rabbit Return ?
They'll need a replacement host.
Sheriff John is GONE !
in 2012.
Joe Arpaio could use a new gig, though.
I can hardly wait.
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Islam is a political ideology not a religion.
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I'm accepting this as your opinion and not a statement based on fact. I have Muslim friends, most of them U.S. citizens, who will tell you otherwise.
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I'm also not sure what Islam has to do with the original post, but such is the nature of a hijacked thread.
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It's both. Read my link, or forever hold your peace ..or piece of whatever you have left.
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This is getting weird. One side says I am a racist Islamophobe and the other says I'm wandering in the mist of radical Liberalism. How's that for
labels? What does it get? Nothing. So let's drop it.
For one, I'm not a fan of either major political party. I don't trust McConnell any more than I trusted Reid (and he was my Senator for a decade).
They are both liars and in the same boat as far as I'm concerned. I was disappointed in Bush (the younger) and I didn't trust any of the Clintons.
Their foundation will turn out to be a slush fund. Although i didn't vote for Obama I really felt he had the opportunity to one the greatest
Presidents this country ever had. Unfortunately he didn't live up to my initial cogitations.
Frankly, I don't think any Presidential administration since Eisenhower has been worth a damn, save maybe Reagan (that's as far as I go back with any
memory).
Now we come to the current administration. I don't feel he's either right or left but somewhere in the middle. It's way too early to make a concise
decision as to whether or not he's good for the country IN THE LONG RUN.
Kennedy had Cuba right at first, Truman had to drop the bomb, Johnson inherited the VN war, Nixon tried a cover up, they all have issues either right
at first or somewhere along the way. There will never be a "perfect" candidate but somehow we always muddle through. For 240+ years, we've muddled
through.
Right now we have a President that half the country voted for (right at 63 million people and yes we have an Electoral College for a valid reason that
our forefathers were enlightened enough to foresee the need for same and I would say that no matter who won ) and i'm not fully convinced of
everything he wants to do is correct but enough seems to be to be able to support him and see how things turn out. Could he turn out to be a disaster?
Sure, just like others in the last 44 Presidents have been but we don't know yet. It's too early to tell. If one studies American history we can see
parallels in other administrations and heated debates about the then current President as far back as we go (just look to Adams and Jefferson, at
times they hated each other but on July the 4th 1826 Jefferson's last words were, "at least Adams survives" (paraphrased), unfortunately Adams died
the same day). BTW, that was exactly 50 years to the day of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, but, we always seem to come through in the
end.
Now if anyone wants to have a reasonable discussion on immigration I'm all ears. But I would preface it with this question (and it is a question for
discussion ans NOT an accusation).
Does any independent State (that is the correct term) have the right to control who they allow in through their borders?
It's an easy question to answer, only one of two answers- yes or no.
If you want to answer please back it up with why you feel that way in a courteous manner.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
I'm accepting this as your opinion and not a statement based on fact. I have Muslim friends, most of them U.S. citizens, who will tell you otherwise.
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Not if they are honest. If the deny knowledge of Sharia, they lie, and are not your friends.
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Suffering the Sharia Shakes ?
Firmly ensconced in the "be wary" of most Mosquers category AND possessing a fairly suspicious (paranoid ?) nature, I have
to say that those who go the extra distance into "Sharia Fear Syndrome" are a bit TOO far over the edge.
It's NOT coming to a town near you.
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A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old. One of the many sharia laws...puke
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Pete was right "hope I die before I get old".....you folks need to find a hobby!
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Hope to Die ?
It would take only one old guy to die and make millions rediscover a Lust for Life.
But, unfortunately, it's unlikely.
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Thank you for the respectful reply.
Actually, with regard to "States", in diplomatic circles I do believe members of say the UN are referred to as "States" not "countries".
The question was regarding "countries" but maybe I'm trying to cut to fine a definition.
I do appreciate the commentary however.
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