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BajaNaranja
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Yeah, good thing we caught Escobar and Guzman, that really fixed the drug / guns / violence situation, didn't it?
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Marc
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Martial Law with summary trial and execution.
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AKgringo
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The only thing that has changed over the years is that there is a much larger number of druggies south of the border now!
Even in the unlikely event that the US drug market dried up, does anyone think that the narcos would give up the gang life and get traditional jobs?
If you could shut down the US supply of firearms and ammo, there are more than enough Asian and European gun dealers to fill the need.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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John Harper
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They became politicians.
John
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David K
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The Kennedy story is a good one!
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LancairDriver
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  | | Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by lencho | What happened to all the crooks when Prohibition was repealed in the U.S.?[/
This is something I've thought about a lot when people claim that drying up U.S. drug demand is the answer to cartel violence. What would really
happen with all those sicarios, armed and accustomed to violence, if their principal occupation dried up?   |
Probably the best model to look at is what happened during and after prohibition. Bank Robbery’s, kidnappings, extortion, shaking down small
businesses, and switching to domestic production by new entrepreneurs of the product on their respective sides of the borders. And not to be ignored
is the monstrous number of law enforcement employed in the US who currently make their living in drug related crime in the US and abroad. It rivals
the employment in the military/industrial sector. The transition would present huge political and domestic economic problems. Sorting out this problem
exceeds even the capability’s of the Baja Nomad group.😁 |
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver | | And not to be ignored is the monstrous number of law enforcement employed in the US who currently make their living in drug related crime in the US
and abroad. It rivals the employment in the military/industrial sector. The transition would present huge political and domestic economic problems.
Sorting out this problem exceeds even the capability’s of the Baja Nomad group.😁 |
Yes, the Law Enforcement Industrial Complex and Prison Industrial Complex is Eisenhower's modern MIC. It's a self perpetuating monster as is our
military.
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Marc
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I'm done with Mesico. Think I'll spend some time in Chicago.
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Lee
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Again, sarcasm duly noted.
Why yes, the removal of those 2 thugs fixed a number of things.
The killing they perpetuated stopped. 33k total in MX last year, down from 34k?
How much drugs didn't make it across is anyone's guess. Lets say tons and tons. Guns another story.
All money and all guns (broad stroking here) travels South from the US. The US needs to clean up it's act. I could be wrong.
Any thought out ideas benefit this forum. Or is criticism and sniping the best you can do? Your history indicates that's what you do best.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Paco Facullo
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What is needed is to legalize ALL drugs. And Open drug treatment centers free for everyone...
But the USA won't do it as it makes too much good sense.
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver | | Probably the best model to look at is what happened during and after prohibition. Bank Robbery’s, kidnappings, extortion, shaking down small
businesses, .... |
Something to think about for those Gringos contemplating spending the rest of our days
south of the border. Who would be the low-hanging fruit in that scenario? 
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No one thinking twice about this in my 'hood.
So, your ''best model'' is a blip in US history that occurred 90 years ago?
Those contemplating retirement in Baja will continue to get their ducks in a row, and move down to their own piece of Paradise.
You?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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chuckie
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It seems to me that this whole thing is a Mexican problem. IF any of us choose to live in Mexico, understand the risks and live with them...
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DaliDali
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | It seems to me that this whole thing is a Mexican problem. IF any of us choose to live in Mexico, understand the risks and live with them...
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To a point yes.
3 women and 6 kids burnt alive in their car is beyond the pale of understanding and "living" with the danger.
A mordida here, a mordida there, a pothole here, an army checkpoint there, can be tolerated as a "risk" and living with it.
Incineration of humans not so much.
Get to it AMLO
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chuckie
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......Nope....
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo | What is needed is to legalize ALL drugs. And Open drug treatment centers free for everyone...
But the USA won't do it as it makes too much good sense. |
I agree. Too much money in also not doing it, perhaps?
John
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elgatoloco
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How would the privatized prisons make money for their shareholders? 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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chuckie
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NOTHING "Given" to the public by the Government is "Free"..
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mtgoat666
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The mormon polygamous cult members are outlaws. The cult moved to mexico because their illegal activities were not tolerated in usa.
The mormon cult communities in mexico are lawless patriarchies run by dictators, they are undemocratic dictatorships that abuse women.
I would not be surprised if they were competing with cartels over some illegal economic activity.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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DaliDali
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Pretty sure bet those women and 6 kids never picked up a sword in their entire lives yeah?
But hey, let em burn, they deserved it.....rotten cultists!
A little collateral damage here, a little there. Goat doesn't care.
Yeah buddy
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chuckie
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Lil Heavy on the "Holier than thou" ,eh?
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