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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 01:31 PM


ramuma53! I called your goons thugs. Thugs of a feather stick together. Did I call you a thug?
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 02:04 PM


We can make this a 1,000 replies thread. would this be a record? anybody? Dennis? Cypress? David? BN elites? This is like a really bad soap opera, it goes on and on and on and on :P If this was a movie the theater would be empty by now. I know I'm still here, but I'm running out of popcorn real soon:lol:
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 02:52 PM


Rafael Munoz Martinez A.K.A. GOD.

If you had property with correct legal documents you would have recovered the last three homes in dispute. I believe the law would have sided with you if you had correct and legal title. You should respect the law and stop trying to twist situations around to favor you. The rest of the property, including the hotel will follow in favor of Olivia the same manner because they are all similar to the other leases.. I would have no problem ceding you the property if you had correct or legal documents to support your claims. You do not and have not supplied correct docs so you have lost in a Mexican court of law. You have exhausted the amparo's and the reviews of amparo's. You lost and being a sore looser you put your misfits(employees) in harms way and now they are arrested in jail. I feel very lucky neither Olivia, the tourists or I were not shot. Hopefully the judicial system will punish them for their crimes. If the employees were working under your orders, then you should be here in person defending those employees who believed in you. What is your problem for not returning to this property or to B.C.S.? Stop yelling from across the pond. It has been three years since we have not had the honor of your presence at Buenaventura. You're not such a important person that time will not allow you to come and offer condolences to your employees. Personally, I hope these employees tell the story of Rafael Munoz Martinez to the officials. I'm sure you are terrified that they will testify against you and this is why you are creating such a fuss. The lies you print are testimony to your desperate character.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 04:27 PM


Hey Goat Jerk,
I promise I will be one of the first paying guests at Rafael's Hotel once he reopens it. Can't wait until he cleans up the Mulege area. It will be my first time back to Mexico since 2007.

Rafael,
If baja wants people like me with $ in their pocket to return, we have to feel safe from not only the criminals but the law enforcement officers as well. I feel sorry for the hardworking people of baja since the tourist stopped coming but your government is responsible for that and shot the golden goose. Most of the negative loud mouths posting on this thread do not have two nickels to rub together and contribute little to baja's economy compared to the tourist that stopped coming. They got suckered by Oliva and Nark for a free beer and a parrot on their shoulder.

Keep up the good work.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 04:46 PM


Lobsterman, You call that run-down wreck a hotel?;D Attempted to spend some time there way back when, but after checking it out, changed my mind. Didn't like the atmosphere, sorta stuffy. Got some bad vibes from the folks that were supposed to be managing it. They've got plenty of vacant rooms. You'd probably feel right at home.:D
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 04:59 PM


Have been following this thread with interest/concern. Don't know much about Mexican real estate law, titles, leases, and all that, and find it hard to make negative assessments of people I don't know. But just wanted to say (or maybe "reiterate" is a better word since I notice others have also vouched) that, having stopped in at Playa Buenaventura plenty of times--whenever heading south or north along Bahía Concepción--to quench my thirst with ice cold cerveza and fill my gut with good grub, Mark and Olivia are fine people and their cantina has to be one of the best in BCS for counting on having a good time, interesting conversation, meeting some genuine old timers, and for a very generous pour of any of the best reposados. I hope they can hold fast, because without 'em there I can't imagine it being the same place.
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shocked.gif posted on 3-16-2012 at 06:25 PM
Yikes!!!


:wow: This is very impressive! :biggrin:

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...Also, I am accessing the political leaders from all the political parties and they are hearing what I am saying; they do not say much in response, but we will feel their reaction and it is very possible we will see a strong reaction against the Estate Government.

Also we put those charges to the United Nations consideration, they will take their time but a resolution will be coming soon.





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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 07:25 AM


Elivestig8r,
Your missing a word.
Aqui tengo mis papeles falso.
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 04:15 PM


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Elivestig8r,
Your missing a word. [/quote

That's not all he's missing.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 05:01 PM


STICK WITH YOUR TOUCHY FEELY STORIES!
QUIT TRYING TO COMPETE!
YOU DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES!







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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 08:32 AM


Elinvestig8r obviously likes to keep stirring the pot. ¿Habla español? Read the policiaca section of the Sudcaliforniano newspaper this morning. The "employees" of ramuna53 were found guilty and have been sentenced to prison, based on the presentation by Olivia of the legal documents regarding Playa Buenaventura to the authorities. Why on earth anyone would post documents on the internet is beyond common sense, and to do it at the request of someone who has nothing better to do than make cartoons on his/her computer to hurt people he doesn't even know is just plain stupid. This story should be legally finished, if not for a bully who apparently will stop at nothing to get what he wants and a handful of bored groupies who enjoy playing with other peoples lives from the security of their computers.
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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 08:44 AM


Here is a copy....

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Formal prisión a la administradora del Hotel
El Sudcaliforniano
17 de marzo de 2012

Porfirio Sarabia P.

La Paz, Baja California Sur.- Edgar Iram Gallegos Cárdenas, Juez Mixto de Primera Instancia del Partido Judicial de Santa Rosalía, Baja California Sur, dictó ayer auto de formal prisión contra María Elizabeth Espinoza Montaño , de 51 años de edad, administradora del Hotel Buenaventura, Mulegé, Baja California Sur y Mario Alán Pérez Rivera, jefe de seguridad de dicho Hotel.

De acuerdo a la causa penal número 30/2012 que se instruye en dicho juzgado, ambos son presuntos responsables por el delito de despojo agravado en agravio de María Olivia Higuera Aguilar, delito grave y no alcanzan fianza.

Los inculpados fueron detenidos el día 9 de febrero de 2012 en dicho Hotel, por elementos de la Policía Ministerial del Estado destacamentados en Santa Rosalía, Baja California Sur, en compañía del Agente del Ministerio Público Investigador.

Posteriormente, el día 12 de febrero de 2012 fueron trasladados a esta ciudad y arraigados por el citado delito.

Al rendir sus respectivas declaraciones preparatorias el 14 del mes en curso, se apegaron al artículo 20 Constitucional. Se prevé que la defensa a cargo del licenciado Eduardo G. Barraza, recurrió a la protección de la justicia federal a través del amparo, para poder liberar a sus defendidos.
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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 09:04 AM


Finally... somebody is GUILTY.:rolleyes:


But wait....a little mordida can correct this "problem".:tumble:

[Edited on 3-18-2012 by surfer jim]
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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 09:13 AM


Quote:
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Here is a copy....

Formal prisión a la administradora del Hotel
El Sudcaliforniano
17 de marzo de 2012


http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n2470413.htm




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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 09:19 AM
Interesting


If Mr Rafael Munoz Martinez is such a great attorney/lawyer, and "his employees" were doing everything legally, why isn't he there in person defending "his employees"??????



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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 10:33 AM


Add let's not forget yet a "new" owner has come into the picture...

The only way to win in Baja real estate is not to play.




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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 11:04 AM
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I am accessing the political leaders from all the political parties and they are hearing what I am saying; they do not say much in response,...


"they do not say much in response" may say volumes,... just saying,...
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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 11:12 AM


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Quote:
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I am accessing the political leaders from all the political parties and they are hearing what I am saying; they do not say much in response,...


"they do not say much in response" may say volumes,... just saying,...

Not really Goat. I have never gotten much feedback from authorities in Mexico. They don't even tell you if you win or lose a case because they don't have a formal system to notify people. If there was more transparency in gov't down here it would defuse a lot of situations. imho, part of the problem is most all gov't jobs are politically appointed and they don't want to mistakenly put themselves out of work by supporting the wrong side. Especially in an election season.




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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 12:18 PM



Latina, I never hide in front of my computer screen to write what I write in here. My identity is on Baja Nomad and has been for some time. People in here can attest to that. Is your identity in here on Baja Nomad, or are you just "the anonymous Latina” typing in front of your computer screen? My backing of Rafael Muñoz is only to the documents he provided online to establish ownership of the disputed property. Mark and Olivia know my identity, my e-mail address and where I go in Baja. I have never accused them of anything so do not get sanctimonious with me about anything. I have not committed any crimes, nor have I hurt anyone! There are three claims to that property and it is not over until the fat lady sings as they say. I am both university educated and street educated and can see this is not over yet. Once the Playa Buenaventura issue is resolved, I will be supporting Whoooosh with stupid gifs to help him on the below project!
Y, por supuesto que si hablo, escribo y leo Español!





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[*] posted on 3-19-2012 at 06:26 AM


Taking no sides on this issue, admitting to not understanding much of what has been written here, I make an observation. I drove by Bueanventura yesterday. The day was cloudy and gloomy as was the view from the highway headed South. The sight of those once beautiful homes, now empty and broken, and the empty hotel, was sad indeed. Having known it when it was alive, and seeing it now as it is...We are all the losers here...No matter what is decided....



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